Christianity is a lie, since Adam wouldn't need/have a bellly button.

Before Muhammed baby girls were exposed to die.. Muhammed forbid that practice and insured every woman would have the protection of a family and tribe.

 

"probably"? There is your problem. Probabilities instead of knowledge and FACT. Such a conclusion is a conclusion based on no set of evidence and is therefore just a speculation not worthy of serious consideration. In other words, you admit that you cannot prove the things you have stated and they are lies based on nothing.

 

Mohammad hated women!
This sick twisted supremacist SOB forbid Muslim women from marrying non-Muslim men!
Qur'an 2:221: "And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men [to your women] until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite [you] to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember."

 

Your ignorance is pervasive........ and stunning.

 

HE SAID WOMEN WERE "DEFICIENT IN INTELLIGENCE"! So GW Bush, for example, is far more moral than Mohammad.

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri:
Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion."
Sahih Bukhari 1:6:301

More reading, quoting the Islamic texts, about just how sick Mohammad really was: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Women

 

Where the hell am I wrong!? He forbid Muslim women from being able to pick from roughly 2.7 BILLION men in the world today. He hated women...but he loved his power. You only gave a general vague reply because you can't defend my claim with SPECIFICS.

Would it be fair if someone ruled out 2.7 billion men in the world today for you to pick from in marriage? Is that fair? Please answer the question.

 

Religious people can't prove them either, for example they can't even prove that Jesus EXISTED, much less is magic.

 

There were some 60,000 hadiths written up to 250 after the death of Muhammed.

 

Have you considered marrying a very devout Catholic woman?

 

You approve of lesbian relationships then? But the Bible says to kill gays. So who is wrong, you or the bible?

 

You used devout and Catholickkin in the same sentence. Bang neighbor, steal his watch, confess, rinse, repeat.

 

If, repeat if, just hypothetically speaking, Mohammad did say that women are deficient in intelligence, would you condemn him? I would, because I'm a moral person. This question always cuts out the bull-excrement, ever notice that, guys?

 

Why should we attempt to prove them? You seemingly have accepted them as fact, so it is up to you to prove that/those set of facts are based on truth. Where is your evidence? Where is your proof of claim?

 

You are a female?

 

So please do preface each of my claims of, say "Mohammad approved of rape" with "according to the Islamic texts....". There, I'm done with this line of questioning.

 

So... Your thread was a flop and you save face by attacking Islam now. How original.

This is Surah 4, Ayah 24, btw:

Also (prohibited are) women already married, except those whom your right hands possess: Thus hath Allah ordained (Prohibitions) against you: Except for these, all others are lawful, provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property,- desiring chastity, not lust , seeing that ye derive benefit from them, give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if, after a dower is prescribed, agree Mutually (to vary it), there is no blame on you, and Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.


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Do you consider all marriage as a form of rape?

 

Good question.. I think Freedomseeker is female.

 

Done with this line of questioning, but still unable to change the effect of your admission that you cannot prove your claims. Tsk Tsk.

 

I, unlike Jesus, who said he came to fulfill the old laws (Matthew 5:17) and the old laws said you as a woman Margot are worth 1/2 a man, believe in equality towards women....so it doesn't matter if I'm a ma or a woman, since there's no need to provide ammunition to people like Jesus who discriminate against women.
Jesus never said, unlike modern Secular Humanism, that women should be treated equally - as a blanket statement. He was a male supremacist, like Mohammad and Buddha.

Focus on my logic (or, er, uh, lack thereof) instead of on my gender or past religious denomination etc.

Do you believe it's FAIR that Jesus was not an advocate of women's rights (unlike modern Secular Humanism), Margot? (I assume you're a female.)

 

Done with this line of questioning, but still unable to change the effect of your admission that you cannot prove your claims. Tsk Tsk. Are you now suggesting that the Bible and the Quran are indeed factual and representative of the 'truth'?

 

just for the record , i never implied i believed dinosaurs never existed...

the troll is is trolling me and you...

even when i try to correct the meanderings of the troll's mind...it refuses to comply with decency.

i always admit when i'm wrong or got it wrong.

 

I think you are probably a female and poorly educated. You apparently don't know anything about historical context or the harshness of the environment or the scarcity of resources.

Nor do you know the difference between God and the emerging Jewish identity.

Being belligerent and combative is not discussion.. its simply rude.

Didactic literature is not science or history...

 

Dear Doc, there are cave drawings at over 2,000 sites on the Arabian peninsula.. (and elsewhere of course) They depict elephants, ostrich, lions, ibex and other animals.

Don't you think that 5,000 years ago people found dinosaur fossils and wondered about them?

A belligent never considers such things......

 

Ok, I accept that, sorry if I implied otherwise. So because the bible doesn't believe in (as it were) dinosaurs, and you do, you think the bible is wrong...right?

The Bible doesn't "believe in" dinosaurs because the ancient barbarians who wrote it were clueless as to how the world works. Those complete idiots thought it was MORAL TO KILL GAYS. Unreal than anybody would also think that people that stupid could discern "god" talking to them from dreams.
Actually, THEY COULDN'T....in the bible is says in Gen 20:6: Then God said to him in the dream, "Yes, I know you did this with a clear conscience, and so I have kept you from sinning against me. That is why I did not let you touch her."

Christians, your heroes in the bible don't know the difference between a dream and "god" talking to them! They were just DREAMS then, not "god". Can't you see that? It's a con! You're been took, you've been had! Time to wake up from the....dream.

 

So, Margot, if Jesus talked about Adam and Eve then Jesus was wrong, correct?