Christianity vs Trumpery

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Natty Bumpo, Dec 22, 2019.

  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    all of the content they have is biased there for not legitimate.
    It's not my claim that's not my work. You're the one trying to convince me that some guy is a white supremacist.

    so if you're too lazy or can't actually do it then you're claim is dismissed.
    I read this article too and it's just accusations. I'm not interested in reading about what political organizations accuse people of.

    I want to see evidence that he is a white supremacist.

    why is that so hard why is it such a tall order for you is it because there isn't any? It's just another character assassination?

    I don't ignore accusations they just don't mean anything without evidence.
    Tolerate what?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ah! Looks like you have a "catch phrase" to use every time you don't like what I say, but you can't rebut it.

    Won't help you much, though.

    Unless you can come up with some other issue that they really care about. One that would surely sway their vote.

    As a movement, of course. Individually... the opinion piece proves that there might be some wedge issues going around. But as a movement... They don't care enough about children being separated from their family to sway their support of Trump. Not the inhumane treatment of human beings at the boarder, including children. Not Trump this administration's efforts to undo pre-existing condition coverage. Not Trump paying off porn stars, or any of the many accusations of sexual abuse against him or his pals. Not mass shootings. Not Trump palling around with murderous dictators... In fact, nothing I can think of that has to do with any care for human life at any point after birth. None of those things have made them waver in their support for Trump.

    That's as close to a "single-issue" movement as you can ever hope to see. And you cannot name a single thing of such importance to them that they would turn their back on Trump.
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have no proof that they are a one issue group. When you claim they are that is an exaggeration because it simply is not true.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You made that claim, so yes, please, prove that or provide an example or two.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not disputing your opinion of the Vatican and catholicism. But you still need to find actual, credible conservative sources for information. That site is the lowest of the low. It's like getting your news from 4chan, or whatever the current chan may be, where the worst RWNJs hang out and spew hatred and misinformation.
     
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    I don't see them pushing any other issue nearly like that are pushing for more/harsher laws against women.

    If you have an example, go for it.
     
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    Sorry, my bad. I wasn't clear.

    I know they don't care what I think. Why should they?

    I'm talking about private behavior, like who we sleep with, who we marry, and what women should not be allowed to do in spite of the fact that it's her body and constitutionally no one else's business. But I think you knew that and just couldn't come up with a real reply.
     
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    WTF you talking about?

    How many kids do you see in the streets of north Carolina, Kansas, begging?
     
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    I think using your faith in God as a tool to advance ANY political agenda is disturbing. Pro or negative Trump related agendas included.

    I have free will because God made it so, that free will allows me to make any choice I see fit and I believe that since God gave others free will it is not my place to force/coerce them into any decisions other than those of their own choosing.
     
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    1995 called they want their Republican talking points back.
     
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    Democrats still need to give 1984 back it's cold war with Russia
     
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    I disagree. Their numbers have already been dwindling. And I can't imagine how the moral contradictions between what their elders teach them, and what they see them doing (mainly: supporting Trump) can do anything but accelerate the decline.

    https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Polit...it-between-young-Christians-and-church-elders
     
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    Why do you jump into a debate when you don't know what it's about?
     
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    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    yeah it's like they've read a few books from 30 years ago when think that they know anything about current views.

    Also anybody who disagrees in the slightest with any Democrat is that only Republican they are Nazis and white supremacists. They're they're digging back 80 years.
     
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    just because you don't speak clearly other people don't know what the debate is about.
     
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    More personal attacks? I know exactly what's it about, you think you can shut me up?
     
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    That sounds about right.

    Trump's response to CT clearly called out that what he cares about is that Christians pay him off in political suppot for the concessions he's given them.

    To him, it's purely a business transaction.
     
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    I've noticed this push for evangelicals by Democrats/neo-commies bit telling. The Democrats/neo-commies internal polls must show them that they need to kiss up to them. This whole story is just another part of this push that began like a week or 2 ago. Watching Democrats/neo-commies act like good Christians is just as fake as watching them act like patrotic Americans.
     
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    That's his schtick. Disagree and he'll attack you.
     
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    Actually, you have this backwards.

    Those coming in are more likely to be Catholic and socially conservative.

    Plus, the only ones inviting people in are families looking to reunite with relatives and US corporations that are searching for educated labor.
     
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    Yep! It's immigrants' fault that the young Evangelicals don't want to be identified with the religion of their elders. Them damn Mexicuns come in and induct them into... Islam... or somethin'
     
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    Stop the bullshit,

    Are we talking legal or illegals here?
     
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    I have no idea. You're the one who brought up the idiotic claim. Fill in the blanks any way you want. It's your delusion.
     
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    Trump is already immoral since day 1,
    Everybody knows that, the present move of the Evangelicals will affect somehow with Trump's votes this coming 2020.
     

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