Chuck Schumer admits what we already knew all along

That isn't an answer to my question.

 

It is a 100% direct answer to your question. By default, yes he absolutely IS advocating that gang members be allowed a path to become citizens. If at some point in the future he wants to say that gang members are not included in this path he could potentially do so, but I have seen nothing as of now that would indicate that. "All" does mean all, and he clearly said "all".

Now if you had asked do I think he "wants" gang members, that may be a different answer, but that is not what you asked, and what he wants versus what he advocates are two different things. Nobody wants troublemakers, but if you are not willing to do whatever it takes to exclude them, then you need to accept their inclusion as a consequence of your policy. That would be like saying that nobody wanted to let people into this country with Covid, but if they were not checking for it at the border, the consequence of that decision is that they were allowing people in that had Covid. If you advocate the policy of not checking for Covid, then yes, you ARE advocating allowing people with Covid into our country. Whether you "want" them or not is irrelevant. You are advocating for them regardless.

 

No it isn't. Let's try again. Do you believe Schumer is advocating that gang members here illegally be allowed to become citizens? Yes or no?

 

I am not sure why you keep repeating the question I keep answering.

YES, SCHUMER IS ADVOCATING A POLICY THAT ALLOWS GANG MEMBERS INTO THE COUNTRY.

If you have a quote where he has said otherwise, I am more than happy to take that into account, but as of right now, I have seen nothing that indicates he is looking to exclude gang members. If you are trying to say people with a felony, that "may" be covered under a different policy, but just a gang member, no I have seen nothing as of yet that indicates he is looking to exclude people by virtue of their gang affiliation.

Have you? (You keep falsely saying I am not answering your question, but you most certainly have not answered MINE)

 

OK. You've made the choice I alluded to. We're done here.

 

The choice you alluded to?

Huh?

Have you seen anything where he has excluded people by virtue of their gang membership? This is your chance. Lets see it. Teach me. I am always willing to change as more information becomes available. Dont be shy. Support your position.

 

Schumer, or any of the other pro-amnesty people, can't exclude criminals. Most of the Dreamers, DACA's, and other illegals have committed multiple crimes, including felonies, because the process of working a job in the US without legal authorization requires you to break multiple laws. In fact the 2013 Amnesty Bill, which @Lee Atwater quoted from on #37 (and apparently views as a model for an amnesty bill) excused multiple crimes:




If you don't ignore the crimes and the criminals, virtually no one is actually amnestied, so they have to be forgiven of all crimes to make amnesty work.

 

See post #47. Would you mind posting the link from the disingenuous anti-immigrant site you used? Thanks.

Also, read the entire thing......https://www.americanimmigrationcoun...44-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill.........

and tell how gang member would qualify for permanent resident status. Thanks again.

 

I would post a link it if I actually still had it. I had that image in a folder left over from the 2013 amnesty bill debates, but I remember the arguments about the excusing crimes, so tell me, what exactly do you think is false on that image? Be specific.

I never made the claim about gang members, just that almost all of the amnesty people would be felons, gang members or not. Or are you telling me that you would oppose any amnesty for illegals who had committed any of the following crimes? [not a complete list!]

Registration of Aliens (8 U.S.C. § 1302)

Reporting Requirements for Individuals (19 U.S.C. § 1459)

High Speed Flight from Immigration Checkpoint (18 U.S.C. § 75

Unlawful Bringing of Aliens into United States (8 U.S.C. § 1323)

Overstaying Duration of Stay (8 U.S.C. § 1227(a)(1)(B) & (C)(i))

Reentry of Removed Aliens (8 U.S.C. § 1326)

Willful Failure or Refusal to Depart (8 U.S.C. § 1253)

and so on...

 

What I'm telling you is I'm in favor of the conditions for citizenship laid out in the bill............https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/744...........

that passed in the Senate with bipartisan support.

Roll call: Republicans who voted for the bill
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/immigration-roll-call-vote-093531

 

And I'm not, so I guess we cancel each other out.

 

is schummer finally coming out of the closet also? first there was pelosi's husband with his bf, now schummer? lol. jk.


I saw something on Fox news the other day. It played a clip from chunky like a decade or less ago. Talking about illegals, saying how they shouldn't be here, and then showed a current clip, and how so easily he and other democrat politicians flip on the issues, just for the vote, no matter who it sells out.