Citizen Trump may have broken a law that President Trump made a felony

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  1. Bowerbird

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    The pandemic whose response he bungled and then ignored to hold lethal superspreader events?
     
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    be specific

    and are you saying Trump's massive debt and lowering the supply of oil biggly had no effect on inflation?
     
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    ah, but you forget to mention that the Orange Stain was on the verge of a recession in 2019... BEFORE COVID

    the fed doesn't do this during a great economy... that the economy was great pre-covid is one of the biggest lies the Republicans ever told.


    "Fed Ups Its Wall Street Bailout to $690 Billion a Week as Media Snoozes" Oct 2019

    https://wallstreetonparade.com/2019...ilout-to-690-billion-a-week-as-media-snoozes/

    and

    "The Federal Reserve Has Already Pumped $9-Trillion into Wall Street in the Past Six Months, and Now Is Offering Banks Another $1.5-Trillion" March 2020

    https://needtoknow.news/2020/03/the...d-now-is-offering-banks-another-1-5-trillion/
     
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    Once again you completely disregard the covid pandemic when referring to the massive debt. Your argument would make sense if not for covid and the country being shut down. How did President Trump lower the supply of oil?
     
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    He probably listened to that drunk pelosi when she and her mindless followers said: everything is safe, look at me I'm visiting Chinatown.
    I agree with you, he never should have listened to pelosi.
     
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    Once again are we talking about the pandemic that Trump massively mishandled causing at least an extra 10,000 deaths? https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/10/us-coronavirus-response-donald-trump-health-policy

    The one that he suggested we drink bleach to cure? The one he kept holding non-masked super spreader events during the height of it?

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    He NEVER listened to Pelosi! Lols! Talk about flailing around looking for an excuse lols!

    Shakes head “listening to Pelosi”. He doesn’t even listen to his own lawyers to keep his self incriminating mouth shut so when did he listen to Pelosi??
     
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    Whoa, calm down there. Don't bust an artery. It was a joke: President Trump would NEVER listen to a politician that would allow a homeless person , that that particular politician could care less about, deficate on the streets of the city she was elected to take care of.

    Enough is enough fresh, and bowerbird. You are happy electing these politicians who CLEARLY do not care about the citizens of this country, and if you are happy defending rich politicians who have done NOTHING for the TAXPAYING CITIZENS of the country that blindly elect them then so be it.
    Good luck with that.
     
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    Oh man, do you really want to bring comments our leaders have made into this?
    President Trump has said that was a ridiculous comment on his part.

    What has your corpse said about his MANY, MANY, neurology challenged comments?

    Is be VERY, VERY, happy to compare.
     
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    Any time mate. Want to start a thread on it? Can I include all the outrageously obvious lies as well? His bagging, self serving narcissism and lack of respect for others
     
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    <CONTENTS EDITED>

    If all politicians are guilty, then all citizens are guilty. Because the government reflects the citizenry.

    Alright....

    go out into nature, where there is no civilization. Just you and the animals, trees, nothing else. You have no food, no house, no plumbing, to car, no streets, no clothing, no infrastructure, no restaurants, no movie theaters, nothing.

    Now, live off the land.

    Have fun.

    here's the thing, without politicians guiding the masses that result of all of the accoutrements of civilization, you'll just be sitting there, in nature, without nothing. Nothing in the fridge to cook ( manufactured via regulations, machines that made the thing, regulations were needed so that the thing won't kill you when you use it, and nothing you would otherwise drive to a store to buy it, noting that the store had to get licenses to open, capital to keep the doors open and bills paid, and the capital came from the financial industry, which had to be regulated so they don't screw you too much, and if you decided to come back to civilization, you drove on roads that required civil engineers, which required government workers to build, with machines that were manufactured under regulations, and you purchased products from stores that were shipped there from all over the world, done by politicians who negotiated trade agreements, products came on ships via shipping lanes that had to be protected by the navy and try having a navy without a government and politicians guiding it, and on and on and on and on and on, and through all this there were disagreements between companies that had to be sorted out by lawyers, under LAWS which were enacted by politicians, I mean, someone had to do all this, and it's not going to be animals in nature, and there you sit, oblivious to all this and whine about politicians, as if you haven't given the subject five minutes of thought, except to listen to other whiners on internet forums, none of whom have any solutions, but talk is cheap, right? Well, who is going to do something these corrupt politicians? Politicians, lawyers, all stuff that requires more politicians. Politicians, like dentists, we don't care much about them until we need them, so quit your bitchin'. and vote for the those whom you think will do you better.

    You might hate politicians, because all you see are the bad **** that media and whiners in media complain about, because saying nice things doesn't sell ads on TV and ads in newspapers.

    But, politicians were a large part of the reason why civilization exists, from which you benefit in so many ways ( like I said, try living without it ) though chaotic an many ways, it's not as chaotic as trying to live without civilization. Now, some folks can live the wild, more power to 'em, but not me. You might hate politicians, but name one country that's a true anarchy? Try it? Even Somalia has politicians. You'd have to by an island, succeed from the union, and then you'd be free from politicians. Or, you move to a Monarchy, but even they have politicians now. Maybe Saudi Arabia's your thing?

    Have fun.
     
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    You do realize that the current inflation was due largely to the two stimulus packages.

    One by Trump the other by Biden.

    Trump is as guilty for inflation as Biden is.

    so, cut the crap. Inflation was ultimately due to the pandemic, and the stimulus packages required to keep the nation from tanking.

    But, you don't get something for nothing so the money for the stimulus packages were printed by government printing presses' and that
    is the reason for inflation. Inflation is the price society paid for the stimulus, which was necessary because the pandemic would have tanked
    the economy. The pandemic will pass and inflation will pass.
     
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    No, Trump is the problem. All this hate and division, really started to accelerate when he took office.

    Things were never perfect ever, but they sure as hell became a lot worse when Trump became a politician.
     
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    Include everything you have.
     
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    President Trump became the problem when he won the 2016 election. He disrupted the billionaire pos george soros's plan. It's pretty easy to see if you just look.

    Reality is the worthless politicians are bought and payed for, and President Trump couldn't be bought so they threw everything they had at him.

    For those who don't follow the usual "I'm right your wrong" practice that the corrupt politicians and their bought off big tech, news networks and social media push, the failed miserably.

    How can you defend biden after he signed 100 and some odd orders on his first day of office and since then our country has experienced serious inflation, highest gas prices since obama, illegals pouring into our country, a worthless attempt to defund police, elected DA's refusing to prosecute BLM members, another attempt ( January 6) to convict President Trump, (dont forget 2 failed impeachments) and now this ridiculous raid on his personal home.

    How much more do you need to see before realizing President Trump was trying to better our country and the current worthless politicians are clearly trying to hurt us???

    You allow all this to happen with zero convictions or evidence and what's to stop them from coming into your home and doing their damnest to convict you of something, anything?
     
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    Let us just start with this little beauty

    word salads

    (Actually I might devote a whole thread to this)
    Mispronunciations of common words
     
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    Well at least you got that bit right but the rest of the twaddle is just a mishmash of Q quotes and conspiracy theories
     
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    Actually I might devote a whole thread to this)
    Oh man I hope you do!!!!!

    I have a $**t load of WAY, WAY more humiliating biden garble that even your go to MISLEADING cnn crap network had negative comments on!!

    Bring it Bowerbird or whatever you name is!! I dare you!!!!

    I got it, we can have a contest where members can vote!!!

    You get the honors......

    Go
     
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    You know very little about inflation. You just proved it. If you know that little, the odds are you know very little across the political spectrum.

    I don't know why I'm bothering with this, you should have studied it.

    Inflation is caused by Fed's policy. they can increase or shrink the money supply.

    When they increase the money supply faster than the GDP can absorb the new dollars, faster than the rate of production, resulting in a situation where too many dollars are chasing too few goods, inflation results.

    Before the pandemic, inflation was under control, for years, fairly steadily at 2.6% per year.

    The pandemic cause production to drop greatly, resulting in a drop in demand, and that would result in a massive deflation, which can reek havoc on a nation.

    To prevent this, and prevent a drop in demand, the stimulus packages were enacted.

    there were those enacted by Trump, and those enacted by Biden. These resulted in several trillion new dollars injected into the economy.

    Now, it's impossible to know in advance how much the nation needs, so the tendency for politicians is to reason that more than enough ie better than not enough. From the time the policy is enacted, it takes about 6 months to a year for inflation to result.

    The overcompensation is what caused the inflation ,and this can be attributed to both Biden and Trump. No one gets **** for free, not even a nation, and the stimulus caused inflation was the price America pays to prevent a severe drop in demand caused by Covid.

    Biden's executive orders had NOTHING to do with inflation, whatsover.

    In ultimate terms, it's the pandemic that has reeked havoc on the nation, and you can't blame Covid on anyone, not in America anyway.

    No one is defunding police, the border as always been a problem for all presidents, between 12,000 - 17,000 BLM rioters were arrested and Trump wasn't convicted during the impeachment because he holds sway over Repubs via controlling the livelihoods of Repubs in the Senate.

    As for Trump being bought, hell, he was totally corrupt, He billed the Us Taxpayer some $16 million via his entourage staying at his resorts. But, it doesn't stop there.

    So, stop telling untruths and do your homework.
     
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    No problem the thread is here
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/trump-v-biden-the-senility-stakes.603026/

    I await your posts and hope you can lay out your case within the parameters set
     
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    You'll lose.
     
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    Home work done: How much has biden cost The US taxpayers by letting ILLEGALS into our country?
     
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    This is the most hilarious statement I've seen in some time!! Please explain this.....
     
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    Not that much, actually. The cost of labor shortages is greater than the cost of illegals.

    Moreover, Illegals have penetrated every border under every president. It's not a 'democratic' problem.

    "Undocumented immigrants are incredible contributors to our economy and are not eligible for public benefits that people think they come here for," Wiehe said.

    An estimated half of the nation's undocumented immigrants are believed to be working under fake Social Security numbers, which means they are paying taxes and into Social Security. The ITEP estimates that state and local governments take in $11.74 billion a year from undocumented immigrants.

    Wiehe added that undocumented immigrants are also not eligible for the federal earned income tax credit, so they're taxed at higher rates than similar low-income Americans.


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...-illegal-immigration-cost-america-not-n950981

    Debunking false claims by Trump and republicans:

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...-no-evidence-americans-pay-155-billion-each-/
     
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    Simple, Trump has history of supporting opponents and thus primarying those who don't support him. That is why they are not going to convict him in the impeachment.
     

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