Civil War- What Would You Do?

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  1. vman12

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    Yeah that 22 and tactical 22 ammo will terrify people I'm sure.
     
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    my 20 gauge semi auto can put a decent sized hole into the head of an enemy of the US Constitution if I am called forth as part of the Unregulated Militia, just sayin'.
     
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    Who are the enemies of the US Constitution?
     
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    hahahaha!!!!!
     
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    Got nuthin?
     
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    heheheehehe!!!!
     
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    I see you don't have the courage of your convictions.
     
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    hoohohohohoho!!!!!
     
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    Don't worry, if it happens we'll let you know when it's over and you can come out.
     
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    I do what I'm ordered to do by the U.S. federal government.

    I and my family have lived and worked in many states but we've always been simply Americans.

    My country.
     
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    Your OP was trolling. My response simply pointed out how ridiculously easy it would be for any intelligent military commander to render your troll meaningless. If you think such plans are not already in place for open insurrection, you're a fool...
     
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    If you would violate your oath of service for family, you're not worthy of being an Army soldier...
     
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    I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

    I don't notice a family exemption in there.

    Maybe you can find one in here? http://constitutionus.com/

    Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis would be most grateful if you could...
     
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    Unresponsive.
     
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    I am not fond of CA Democrats. I never fight for those I am not fond of. But it would have to be Trump that invades us. I would not fight him either.
     
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    For me, that would depend on what I think of the Constitutionality of my orders and the actions of my state and the Federal government. My oath was to defend and protect the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.

    This issue(among others) is what makes secession so difficult. It makes it hard for military leaders to trust their troops because they can never be sure where their loyalty lies in a domestic conflict. We have over 200,000 Texans in the US military. I am no longer in the military, but my son is. I have no idea what he would do if the feds were to go to war with my state? It wouldn't be in his best interests for me to even guess on line.
     
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    So, if Trump sends the Army to invade your state, you swore an allegiance and would fight in his Army?
     
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    I live in Texas, and like Putin's Poodle about as much as Jefferson Davis liked Lincoln, so the question is more on point than you think.

    I'm a Son of the American Revolution. I had two ancestors who were actual three percenters - they took up arms and fought the British. My family fought in the Texas Revolution and for the Union during the Civil War. Secessionists are traitors, and should be treated as such. Those with masturbatory fantasies about 'revolution' should realize there are a lot more us of who feel that way than them. Country before ideology or party, always.
     
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    No, you just cannot rebut it.
     
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    Unresponsive.
     
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    Yes, your response most certainly is. There is no family exemption in the military oath of service. If you're active military, and your family is engaged in an insurrection against the Constitutional government of the United States, you would be expected to fire on them if ordered to. If you can't do that, don't take the oath, because the military would be morally and legally justified in executing you for your refusal.

    You can go Godwin all you want, but that is simple reality.
     
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    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic
     
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    Recap

    You would fight for Trump were he to invade TX.

    I doubt I would though I voted for Trump.

    People forget all the time that in the South, some still were loyal to the Union.
     
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    I would fight for Trump, but only IF the invasion was due to my state committing some horribly inhuman act, such as allowing persecution of racial/religious minorities.
     

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