CNN CAUGHT ON HIDDEN CAMERA ADMITS TRUMP RUSSIA STORY FAKE

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  1. FAW

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    I think its cute how you replied to my post and then proceeded to COMPLETELY change the subject of CNN literally manufacturing fake news in order to appease their liberal base. I will play along regardless....

    Trump won EVERY income group over 50k in household income. It is hard to rationalize that the under 50k crowd are the intellectuals, and the over 50k crowd are the "dolts". The upper income groups voting Republican has been mostly consistent for many decades, and is NOT simply a statistical anomaly from this last election..
     
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    That being the case, why are they forced to make up news for ratings, and why do they see no ethical issue with doing so?
     
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    "thus are better educated and more intelligent than your average Joe."


    More highly educated than the average Joe, perhaps. There is no logical path to more intelligence such as you assume.
     
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    It is always good to see proof of things like this but we already know CNN is nothing but a propaganda source. Why is this a surprise? It isn't.
     
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    Only a liberal could fall for the CNN garbage, anyone capable of free thought knew the truth. CNN needs to have the journalist credentials stripped.
     
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    It means that after about a year of digging, with the Obama administration getting the first shot at investigating, there is still no evidence of collusion.

    And the book written about Hillary's defeat exposes that the, "Russian Collusion," story was fabricated within 48 hours of her defeat.

    But the worst aspect of this illumination is based on the apparent illegal unmasking, of captured intelligence conversations, that went on to try to find some dirt.
    With some of that illegally obtained information being illegally leaked to the media. Felonies on top of felonies...
     
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    Exactly.....hence the downplaying of the issue with News Outlets only playing for the ratings. The leftness doesn't want to know how much the Russian Issue with Trump is bullshit. That CNN is biased against Republicans. That bursts bubbles. Just sayin.



    CNN Producer: Russia Collusion Story 'Mostly Bulls**t', But It's Good For Ratings.....

    Well, for those of you who feel that CNN is shamelessly biased against Republicans, which has only intensified under the Trump White House, Project Veritas’ latest investigation will probably make your blood boil. The investigative group headed by James O’Keefe found that since Trump was inaugurated, Russia has been mentioned 15, 694 times in their coverage of his presidency. So, PV decided to send some of their investigative team members down to Atlanta and speak with CNN’s supervising producer John Bonifield, who was rather candid in saying that the whole Russia collusion story is mostly crap, and that the network pushes it because of ratings.

    Concerning the whole collusion story, Bonifield noted that we’re using our spy agencies to influence elections and government abroad, and that you win elections because “you know the game and you play it right.”

    “She [Hillary Clinton] didn’t play it right,” he added.

    “Then why is CNN constantly like, Russia this, Russia that?” asked the PV reporter.

    “Because it’s ratings. Our ratings are incredible right now,” replied Bonifield.

    “And the CEO [Jeff Zucker] of CNN said in our internal meeting, he said, good job everybody covering the climate accords, but we’re done with it. Let’s get back to Russia,” he said.

    “Could be bulls**t. I mean it’s mostly bullshit right now. Like, we don’t have any giant proof,” replied Bonifield, who added that we would have known something by now given the leaky nature of the Trump administration.

    “And so I think the president is probably right to say, like, look you are witch-hunting me. You have no smoking gun. You have no real proof,” he added.

    Also, the video features Bonifield speaking dismissively of ethics in journalism, noting that it’s a business first and foremost.

    “But, all the nice cutesy little ethics that use to get talked about in journalism school, you’re just like, that’s adorable. That’s adorable. This is a business, he said.....snip~

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattv...stly-bullst-but-its-good-for-ratings-n2347215
     
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    Yet CNN continues to represent itself as a news organization ... and even more ridiculously criticize Trumps new WH press meeting policies ... CNN challenged Breitbarts jounalistic integrity, and wanted them banned from WH press meetings? Good one! :roflol:
     
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    Trump was right-CNN is fake news.

    I remember how mad CNN got at that label.
     
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    I would like to believe you are right, but we haven't had an honest, unbiased news media for about 40 years! Since 97% of the media are registered democrats, it seems highly unlikely to me that will ever see journalistic integrity again!
     
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    Yes, the entire concept of unbiased reporting is just a tool to promote factional propaganda - Fake News.

    “Is this the end of all that is good and decent in American journalism? Nah. I say good for them. An abandonment of the pretense to “objectivity”—in many ways a return to American journalism’s roots—is long overdue.” POLITICO, Goodbye Nonpartisan Journalism. And Good Riddance. Disinterested reporting is overrated. By MITCHELL STEPHENS June 26, 2017.
    http://www.politico.com/magazine/st...npartisan-journalism-and-good-riddance-215305
     
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    We have never had an "an honest, unbiased news media".
     
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    So much hype over nothing.

    Mueller is running the investigation, not CNN.

    The Washington Post and NY Times have been fueling the investigation, not CNN.

    The most amazing thing about the crackpot right is the repeated claim that CNN is an arm of the law. Again, that would be Mueller and the FBI, not news agencies. But I understand with crap like that posted here, you are all easily confused.

    Again for the confused: CNN is a news agency.

    The investigation is being run by a Mueller. He doesn't work for CNN. Got it now?
     
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    Yeah... a politically-motivated major news network admittedly throwing integrity out the window and making up stories so it can attack a sitting President -- its nothing.
     
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    Trump has been trying to blame the media for six months....it hasn't worked, so now he's trying to blame Obama....here's a clue...the 16 intelligence agencies and Mueller know the whole story and what really happened...and once they get everything in a nice little package, the whole country will know.....just like Watergate. Stick a fork in Trump, he's done. If you can't see Trump's desperation, you're ignoring the obvious.
     
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    Who would have thought. :dizzy:
     
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    Fail. Sorry, you and I have no way of knowing what evidence there is for what offense if any.
     
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    CNN is pretending to be straight news as much as Fox "News" is pretending to do so. Both want profits as the first priority over reporting straight news. But there is only one that spouts "fair and balanced" all the time, while it is the most unbalanced.

    Does CNN publish lots of anti-Trump articles? Yes, and many of them with deserved criticism. After all, Trump is good at shooting himself in the foot.

    Is CNN blatantly left as much as Fox news is right? Not at all. In fact, in the runup to the Iraq war, CNN beat the war drums for GWB as much as any other major network. They also were happy to run with the Kerry Swiftboating stories, probably helping GWB get re-elected.

    CNN will switch to conservative mode any second -- if it makes them more profit.
     
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    Everybody knows that Fox and MSNBC come from a biased point of view, that much is NOT in doubt. In that sense, CNN and the networks are FAR more insidious because they feign being centrist when in fact they have always been pushing an agenda the same as MSNBC and Fox.

    CNN is every bit as blatantly left as Fox is right. Pointing to a time when there was some unity in the country directly after 9/11 not withstanding. Its a misstatement of the historical record to act like CNN overly pushed the swiftboating story. I'm sure at some point they certainly aired it, but that was undeniably a set of ads funded by billionaire businessman Harold Simmons. To act like CNN had anything to do with pushing that effort is simply detached from reality.

    There is absolutely NOTHING is CNN's 30 plus year history that could possibly lead one to believe that at any time they are about to switch to "Conservative mode". Their leftist advocacy is CLEARLY not solely about profits. Why exactly do you think that Fox has always done so well compared to the other cable news outlets?........because this country is mostly split 50/50, and Fox is the ONLY game in town for the Conervative half of the country. The rest of the networks are all fighting for their share of the other 50%. If profit aside from advocacy were their SOLE motive, surely they would have clued into that other 50% at some point during the last 30 years.

    This thread is about a CNN producer blatantly discussing the fact that CNN is purposefully pushing a false narrative in order to appeal to their liberal viewers, and you are doing everything in your [power to discuss anything OTHER than that reality, and are deflecting in any manner that you can think of in order to accomplish that aim.
     
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    I was responding to your indoctrinated notion of liberal bias in the media. I suppose which poll you look at for income but the ones I looked at, the higher income categories were rather evenly divided. However I was talking intellectual levels. Trump is clear proof that one does not need to know a lot to become wealthy.

    Since you want to go there, I should point out that if you plot were there greatest economic expansion is occurring, it is occurring in Democratic dominated areas. In terms of economic growth nine of the top ten states are dominated by Democrats while nine of the bottom ten are dominated by Republicans.

    As to dolts, how is it that so many Trump supporters think that he is going to bring their long lost jobs back? Were you all not paying attention when it was being reported his practice of stiffing workers? Can you not see that everything that la Trump, and Republicans, in congress, are doing is to give ever more benefit to the wealthiest? Or has the defense of the Russian thing got your panties so twisted that you have been distracted from what is happening behind the clown show.

    Another thing I'd like to know. Conservatives in America used to be mad dog anti-Russian. Part of the Russian meddling charge is in they infiltrating the conservative propaganda machine. How is it that those people who think that the economic crash at the end of lil' Bush's presidency was caused by Democrats forcing banks to give mortgage loans to poor minorities, are now, unexplainably favorable towards Russians? Why is the same crowd also the only ones, in the world, who have been deluded into denying global warming?
     
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    Typically when someone like la Trump gives a speech, those in the know immediately know that he is mostly just BS. Then we turn and see the throng nodding in unison.
     
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    Out of literally hundreds of producers at CNN, one guy who is the "CNN Medical Unit producer, working primarily with CNN Senior Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen" lol is the be all and end all of sources at CNN,

    who surprise! said the media business...is a business! Wow. Killer stuff.

    Brought to you by the king of deceptive videos: James O'keefe -- who is directly funded by --

    Trump.

    :roflol:
     
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    I think this post is why they coined the term non sequitur.

    You are correlating education/ intelligence to the left right spectrum. In reality, that divide is rather close and always has been. If you are HONESTLY wanting to delve into that issue, it is FAR more complex than meets the eye. When Democrats come out ahead along any major parameter, it is typically because they have overwhelming support amongst various groups within that parameter to overcome their deficit with everyone OTHER than those special interest groups. When you look at a group like white voters, they tend to follow along income lines as to how they vote. Amongst white voters, Republicans win a sizeable majority amongst college educated voters. When you look at a group like black voters, they tend to vote along racial lines, and income is a far less accurate determinant of how someone votes. Blacks vote 90% plus for Democrats, and so when you calculate in the homogenous black vote into the college educated vote, it changes those numbers drastically. It is hard to argue that therefore the aspect of the college educated vote that comes from blacks is based on education, because in fact education doesn't show a strong correlation to how blacks vote. The same principle applies to the other special interest groups that make up the Democrat base like Hispanics, LGBT etc. If not for the almost homogenous black vote, Democrats would never come close to winning a national election. If you want to break it down by sex, Republicans win men and Democrats win women. If you break women down by married and single, Republicans win married women by a modest amount, and democrats win single women by a lot. It is hard to conclude that being single for a woman is correlated to being smarter.

    With that being the case, it is PREPOSTEROUS to look at a close split amongst college educated voters and then to summarily declare that "Democrats are smarter" because in a particular election they won the college educated vote by a few percentage points. The factors that go into that calculation are far more complex than the simpleton analysis that you are putting forth. There are plenty of HIGHLY intelligent people that are on both sides of the aisle, and neither side can legitimately declare that "the smart people vote for us".
     
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    The problem with this narrative is that CNN was in bed with the DNC long before Trump showed up. They would have opposed any Republican. A second problem with your story is that if Trump was truly so objectively bad, they wouldn't have to make up fake news to undermine him.
     
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    You only understand a portion, or acknowledge a small part of Republican motivation for a profit based market. Right up until you can use out to undermine them.

    People decide what's important. They decide how to spend their money. If nobody watched CNN because they didn't trust the news, CNN would fold.

    Capitalism at work.

    This post goes to show that the fake news agenda may backfire, and that is the market at work. It's working.
     

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