Colby Covington's latest round of race-baiting draws ire of UFC fighters, Reebok

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  1. RedWolf

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    BLM shot and killed a woman from behind for saying All Lives Matter. BLM pulled a man out of his truck after crashing and savagely beat him. BLM has said looting is reparations. BLM has attacked 2 CHP vehicles trying to pull the officers out. Those are facts, not opinions. They are terrorists and no amount of you dismissing it will change that. If you don't like it than I suggest you don't support a group that tries to intimidate by force. Otherwise that's your problem, not mine.
     
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    If they were facts you'd actually post links to actual stories confirming your facts.
    Instead it's likely some person who looks different than you and you label them BLM.

    So are all white people white supremacists in your logic world? I don't think so.
     
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    https://ktrh.iheart.com/featured/mi...shooting-innocent-driver-in-utah-during-march

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/1125847/mom-jessica-doty-whitaker-shot-dead-black-lives-matter-argument

    https://www.teaparty.org/breaking-p...lives-matter-riots-in-louisville-video-455335

    https://ussanews.com/News1/2020/09/...lock-entrance-to-hospital-chant-kill-them-all

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/blm-mob-beat-white-man-unconscious-after-making-him-crash-truck

    https://nypost.com/2020/08/11/black-lives-matter-organizer-calls-chicago-looting-reparation

    And before you complain about the links, if you don't like them then that's your problem. You can provide your own disproving them. And I never mentioned race. That was all you. Or do you believe that only black people are involved in BLM? Maybe you should quit being so narrow minded if that's the case.
     
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    Not at all. Movements can be responsible for bad acts even when they don't have an official chartered membership list.
     
  5. dairyair

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    https://kutv.com/news/local/suspect...-with-provo-shooting-woman-booked-for-rioting
    I did a facebook search on Jesse Taggert, don't know if his page was taken down. I can't confirm if he was an active BLM member.
    The local news station doesn't say one way or the other.

    So, it's not my problem.
    I don't believe BLM are all black only. But I also don't believe every incident that happens is BLM and Antifa as the Right Wing likes to portray.

    Still no confirmation.

    Is Covington in the OP, mean all tRUMP supporters are just like him.
     
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    No, movements can't. Idiots within the movements can give movements a bad name. Or, fake news just attributes bad actions to the movements.

    If it was a policy of the movement, most of the movements actions would do those bad things.

    A tRUMP supporter shot up a school a couple years ago.
    A tRUMP supporter killed black in their church a few years ago.
    Are all tRUMP supporters mass murders? No.
     
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    In this case a few idiots have resulted in the beatings of hundreds, the murder of dozens, the destruction of hundreds of small businesses and over a billion dollars of property damage across multiple cities. Exactly how many people do they need to kill before you brand the movement as terrorist? How many billions of damage do they need to inflict before you brand the movement as terrorist? How many small businesses do they need to annihilate before you brand the movement as terrorist? I would like you to provide those numbers so that when they are exceeded, you can brand the movement as terrorist.
     
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    Do you know of any other groups besides BLM and Antifa protesting every night? Every once in a while the Proud Boys get involved but not to often. It's not a stretch of the imagination to believe that BLM and Antifa are involved. Like I said, if I'm shown proof that it's not them, I'll aknowledge it. But BLM has been out there where all the violence and looting have been. If it was the Tea Party that was there each night these things happened I would conclude that they're terrorists as well.
     
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    100% it.... his fight against Usman is an amazing fight though in my opinion
     
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    It’s not BLM. It’s all secret Trump supporters. Derp derp. Trust the MSM. It’s all mostly peaceful...until it isn’t. If people are “peacefully” blocking roads all day and yelling and screaming at people, then when it gets dark the looting and fires start, according to Dems, it’s still peaceful....mostly.
     
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    you tell me.
    Again, just because a person who is black does a crime doesn't make BLM responsible. Unless, as I stated, all supporters are tRUMP are mass murderers as well.

    I don't think any violence any where or time is acceptable.
    Are Proud boys, boogaloo, and patriot prayer to be labeled terror groups by you?

    If you can point to their group telling people to do those things go for it. Else they are just individuals doing all those crimes.
    Get it?
     
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    Yes, there are counter protesters at each protest. Proud bois, boogaloo, patriot prayer, supporters of tRUMP.

    Like I said, show proof that BLM is responsible. If you can't, then my stating supporters of tRUMP are mass killers and vigilantes. Using your logic.
    Or to more of your extreme, all white people are responsible for mass killings, etc.

    Really kind of silly to make such blanket statements.
     
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    Show me proof that at each of these protests their have been counter protests. Show me proof that other groups have been there on every night of violence. I know who has been though and that's BLM. You can say what you want and dismiss what you want, but BLM is a terrorist hate group. I really suggest you support someone else that isn't pulling people out of their vehicles and attacking them.
     
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    Gee, their OFFICIAL group statement endorses violent looting. Should I believe them or you?
    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/blm-advocates-looting.php

    Their leaders openly and proudly engage in calls to violence. Should I believe them or you?
    https://www.newsweek.com/blm-leader-well-burn-system-down-if-us-wont-give-us-what-we-want-1513422

    Their leaders openly justify looting. Should I believe them or you?
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-organizer-loot/

    I could give you video coverage of the marches where they chant: "what do we want, dead cops" and "pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon", if you would like.

    I think I am going to enjoy watching you explain how the exact evidence you asked for is actually not evidence.
     
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    There are counter protesters at every protest.

    Show proof BLM is at every protest.
     
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    What point you trying to make?

    They have an official website with an official mission statement.
    Provide your proof from that. All others are someones personal opinion.

    Yes, 8 yrs ago or so, there were marches after police killings of blacks where they made statements you posted. That really was before or at the time the movement was beginning. But there really was no organization promoting the killing of cops.

    Hawk Newsome should be relieved of his position. It was a terrible statement.

    Newsome went on to clarify that while "I don't condone nor do I condemn rioting," the measurable change that has occurred in recent weeks began in the wake of property destruction caused by rioters.
    "This country is built upon violence," Newsome said, pointing to the American Revolution and modern American diplomacy as examples. "We go in and we blow up countries and we replace their leaders with leaders who we like. So for any American to accuse us of being violent, it's extremely hypocritical."


    I personally don't condone any violence.
     
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    How are you going to demand proof when you won't even pony up? All you've done is go "nuh uh, BLM good" while ignoring the evidence showing that they're doing these things. Give me evidence to prove me wrong or shut up. Your personal investment into a terrorist group is not my problem or responsibility. And you can cry "but the other guy" all you want but until you show something like I actually have, then everything you say basically amounts to you actually crying. Quit supporting terrorists.
     
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    I have not declared BLM good or bad. I have said they are not responsible for all the ills a black person does.

    They have a mission statement, and it doesn't state anything you're trying to attribute to them.

    All you've done is say BLM is terrorist group, and are responsible for the riots and looting. You won't even pony up.

    I counter your opinion with my opinion. There's no evidence the BLM movement is responsible. Else you'd provided it already.
    People have been arrested, how many claim to be BLM?
    I would assume some claim to be part of the group.

    You labeling of them is your own personal problem.
    How do you know that a rioter is part of the BLM movement?
    How many arrested claim to be a part of the movement?
     
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    I never said BLM is responsible for all the bad that blacks do or anything of the such. And their mission statement means nothing when their actions are full of violence. You know the saying, it's not what you say that counts but what you do. And you're saying that I won't pony up? I have given you multiple links showing their involvement in violence and in support of it. The best you've done is take one single link and go "Nah, I don't think so" while ignoring everything else. Again, that was your best. And me labelling them a terrorist group is not a problem for me. That's what they are and that's what they get called. Actions have consequences.
     
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    You keep claiming BLM actions without proving it's BLM being responsible.

    Again, are all supporters of tRUMP responsible for mass murders? Do we label all trump suppoters like you want to do with BLM?

    I have shown links of supporters of trump killing also. So trump supporters are mass murderers using your logic.
    Why do you ignore those?

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-shooters-instagram-picture-maga-hat/
     
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    Again, I posted links. Multiple links. I have given actual proof and evidence. If you don't see it it's because either you're not looking at it or you are a liar. And you can call Trump supporters whatever you want. Something tells me you do that already. But therr is far more violence coming from the terrorist group known as BLM and that's a fact.
     
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    Just like you do.
    Your 1st link provide nothing. I saw no need to go further.
    It was an opinion. I went to a local news station for factual news of the event and nothing was mentioned by them of Jesse Taggert being BLM, nor could I find his facebook page as your link stated.
     
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    Blm IS a racist and terroristic entity, established by marxists, peopled by thugs, with a dogma unsupported in fact or reality. It is a con, suckering the ignorant and naive.
     
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    So you admit to not even looking at the evidence. That makes sense seeing as how you ignore the terrorism that BLM is causing. It's easier for you to live with your head in the sand then confront the things you don't like. So again, BLM are terrorists. That's a fact. Deal with it.
     
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    I think you're confused with Proud bois, boogaloo, and patriot prayer. The trump supporting groups. Ignorant and naive are those supporters of trump.
     

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