Colorado Joins 11 States Agreeing to Shift to Popular Vote System

The wide open southern border the Democrats want to keep that way.

 

Doing away with the EC would mean the states that have the most give away's would rule the country and make the rest of the country pay for it.



This is what the EC is meant to protect the people from.

 

Thank the Computer industry for that.

 

That's already how the electoral college works, if a candidate gets 51% of the vote in a state, they do not receive 51% of the electoral college points, they receive 100%. Basically the other votes are cancelled out and all go to the candidate who got the majority in that state. What Colorado passed is the same thing but on a national level

Is it a better electoral system? no, it's still crap

 

Then shouldn't it be based on the people, and not land? I mean, Alaska is 2 1/2 times the size of Texas, but only 700k people live there. If you want to go by land mass and not people, then there's your winner

 

Why do you HATE the concept of EVERYONE having EQUAL voting rights?

 

The border is not wide open... That myth is getting a little old..

 

I suppose, I always vote against the incumbent for term limits..

 

Why do you support mob mentality and victimization of minorities?

 

Democrats who are saying Beto was dumb and only 16 when he wrote bizarre sick stories that included kids being murdered, want to now lower the voting age to 16.

 

Look at all that vacant land

We should definitely let the people that reside there steer the direction of the country because... well... they have more land and are obviously superior.

 

Oh please....really? You're going to AGAIN use identity politics and slam WHITE people for the problem? Are you a bot or a parrot? Seriously, do you liberals ever have any personal opinions that don't derive from something you've been programmed to say?

Maybe stop watching brainwashing CNN and MSNBC would help?

 

Since there aren't many nations which elect their HOS by a national popular vote, I suppose democracy is in short supply. All Parliamentarian democracies elect their HOS through electorates, not dissimilar from how the EC works. Canada, Australia (PM at least), NZ, UK, etc.

Decentralised democracy is still democracy.

 

In some states it's winner take all. You guys are saying the person with the most votes wins right? And it's not "points".

 

Because 1 million people in urban California's politics should not override how 100 thousand people Oklahoma choose to live.
People in California all have equal votes to everyone else in California. California has more members in the electoral college than Oklahoma.

People in Oklahoma all have equal votes to everyone else in Oklahoma.
Oklahoma has fewer members in the electoral college than California.

Given the population density of each state, a nationwide popular vote would mean Oklahomans would constantly be living under a president who represents the political interests of Californians significantly more than their own despite the fact that regional cultures are significantly different. That is not equal representation.

 

Colorado has gone radical left after the left getting a majority.

Proposition 112 (heavily regulate oil and gas here in the state) lost emphatically here during the elections but with a majority, they reintroduced similar legislation in SB 19-181 and passed it through the house, totally underlying what the people of Colorado voted against in Prop 112.

They are trying to push as much radical policies through as they can. Red flag law, is among several that are turning this state upside down. They also are trying to eliminate TABoR (tax payer bill of rights) as with their proposed new spending, they will need to increase taxes substantially. Recall efforts are already under way for the governor and law makers.

 

The EC was developed by the framers to ward against election fraud as what we're seeing happening now. That's what saved the last election and allowed the people who are actual citizens to decide who wins the election. The democrats tried hard the last election to fraudulently STEAL the presidency hence the reason Hillary won the popular vote. If truth were known, if not for all the illegal votes, she wouldn't have even come close.

At any rate, since that failed attempt, OBAMA and the democrats have learned they must either get more electoral votes OR abolish the law and rely only on the popular vote and that's why they're working towards that agenda now.

https://www.investors.com/politics/...n-live-adults-a-red-flag-for-electoral-fraud/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...BBAB&usg=AOvVaw2HHTaVjUjAnttyiJd0nLqH&ampcf=1

 

Sometimes you don't have to hear the duck quack to know it's a duck....all one needs is common sense knowing that all the sanctuary cities and states are democrat run and that electoral college seats are allocated to areas according to population numbers.

In other words given the fact 2020 is a census year, and the dems have been opening santuaries all across the US, the dems are fighting border control, Obama brought back catch and release to fill those sanctuaries with illegals so they'll be allocated more electoral college votes, which I might add are coincidentally ALL in democratic poll strongholds, it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to realize what they're up to.

 

16 year olds are easily influenced and the majority of teachers in schools these days are liberals who constantly work to indoctrinate your kids. My kids are always coming home with none sense that is espoused by the left. Both kids were forced to watch "The Story of Stuff" by the Tides foundation which I had a long a divisive discussion with the dean about. Peak oil, the earth is ending in 10 year and the evils of being white...

Heck, even my daughters friends who Hispanic, yet born here, were told if Trump is reelected, they would be deported. THAT SHOULD BE CRIMINAL!

16 year olds have no concept of finances. No concept of the impact of their vote or even to how politics work.

It's you guys/gals that are trying to get low informed voters to solidify your power by constantly moving the goal post.

I honestly think people should wait to vote until their mid 20's, in all honesty as they will have more general knowledge of finances, a much greater understanding of politics and the impact of their vote and are generally more responsible adults.

It's only stupid to the low informed as it's purpose was a design by the founders whom I found to be fairly smart, to give smaller populated states a voice in the general election.

 

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Asinine strawman projection!

 

Puerile ad hom drivel ignored for derogatory reasons.

 

You are disingenuously conflating two DIFFERENT concepts!

Your REPRESENTATION in CONGRESS is LOCAL!

The NATION'S PRESIDENT is NATIONAL!

The POTUS does not dictate how anyone lives in each state.

The votes for PRESIDENT should all have EQUAL VALUE regardless as to where you live.

 

I am not conflating anything. The president potentially could have a very large impact on people's day to day lives by way of what bills he signs into law or vetoes at the very least. Your preferred method would effectively silence the voice of much of the country pertaining to the election of the President of the United States. Just because liberals prefer to mass together in states with large metro areas of urban sprawl doesn't mean you get to tell the rest of the country who the next president is.

 

That still doesn't justify allowing your rural vote to OVERRIDE the VOTING RIGHTS of people in urban areas.

In essence what you want is to DENY others their Constitutional Rights to have their vote counted the same as yours.