Confessions of a Treasonous President

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  1. Gatewood

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    You did not refute him and therefore you are in complete agreement with him. That is what you are always posting to others.
     
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    Normal Americans don't expect classified stuff to be leaked to the NYT, CNN, the Mad Cow, etc

    When the CIA, NSA and FBI can't keep a secret...

    Who were these anonymous sources ?

    Obama holdovers ?

    intelligence agents inflicted with TDS ?
     
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    As a former intelligence analyst myself I can tell you that nobody, not even the President can issue such an order. The NSA, like all the intelligence agencies must comply with the laws of the United States. Americans have a 4th Amendment right to privacy. That means no spying on Americans. They must abide by the rules and regulations set up to protect the 4th Amendment rights of Americans. That would be United States Signals Intelligence Directives (USSID-18.). Incidental recordings of American citizens must be destroyed immediately, all records, tapes, transcripts and computer files destroyed and deleted.

    Now the Patriot Act changed some of the rules, and the identity of Americans are masked when some of these conversations are captured. They are only supposed to be kept if it's a national security matter or a criminal matter. The other part of the #SPYGATE scandal is in the OP. Obama gave the authority for these incidental contacts to be widely distributed and the people were unmasked illegally.

    Won't the Mueller report be fun if Democrats get their wish and they show who was spied on, who unmasked who and why?
     
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    They're just trolling. They can't refute the facts.
     
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    Just curious, is that "Proof" even remotely possible with you? I mean I've followed your posts, and it's my opinion that there is no proof that would satisfy your ardent beliefs..
     
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    Wait until the IG or the DOJ start going through top level cell phones, emails text messages. Not just appointees but top level GS people. The directors can't do this on their own. Some field agents had to be involved.
     
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    I think it's code for "I got Nothing, help me", its like leftist tag team forum wrestling!
     
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    I bet they find more kiddie porn on those cell phones then anything else! Not sure though, that might be overlooked among the Washington Democratic elites?
     
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    This thread shows proof that #SPYGATE happened. I will add to it as we go along, but finally we have an AG who is going to have a look at the spying that went on under President Obama.

     
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    Did we not attempt to kill Gaddafi with a missile back in the days when a president had balls?
     
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    I think that what you are presenting here does not square with reality. In fact it seems that you are trying to make a story out of nothing. We all know Trump is dirty. People like you are trying muddy the water with your crazy, no facts to back it up conspiracy theories.
    However most people still see the same ignorance lying turd bucket that Trump has always been.

    And yes I am laughing. It is a never ending, the silly things conservatives come in with.
     
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    More wacko conservative conspiracy theories. Barr sure did his job didn't he? He made a believer out of you.
     
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    Conservative logic?
     
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    They don't tell you this on FOX or right wing radio, because it is their job to feed you misinformation. But the investigation into Trump's ties to the Russians came about because our allies were seeing many of Trump's people having meetings with Russian operatives all over Europe.
     
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    Yes or no, did Obama sign the EO allowing sharing of masked Intel across agencies? How does that not "square with reality"? If that's a conspiracy theory, prove he didn't do that. Otherwise me thinks thou doth protest too much.
     
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    Gettin nervous aren't ya?

    I called it on day one, this is ABSOLUTELY going to hurt Democrats/Progressives more than Republicans.

    I didn't know it was going to hurt you guys THIS bad. Pretty obviously that dozens if not hundreds of people, flat out lied in order to attack Trump.

    Now that we solved the fact that the entire thing was a fabricated lie made up by Progressives, we are able to do the real job of finding who the liars are.

    I can tell you are scared, you guys lost every ounce of credibility here and now you are going to lose some politicians to jail.

    My favorite part, is when you gusy bring up "obstruction of justice" and act like it has anything to do with the case in the first place. Obstruction of justice on a fake crime, doesn't do a damn thing in the polls.

    You guys took a huge over step and you missed, you missed big. Now, you are certainly going to lose 2020
     
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    Who? What operatives? You mean Carter Page? These are #FakeNews stories in the media, not genuine intelligence from our allies. You're the one being fed misinformation from conspiracy theorists like Maddow.
     
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    No, not Barr. I knew about it two years ago. My sources? The NYT, WaPo, the Guardian & McClatchy. Right wing conspiracy theorists all.

     
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    The fact of this does not lead to your conclusions.
     
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    Your source of information is Mark Levin? Wasn't he one of the Iran/Contra criminals? Yes he was. And here he is, a man who has a track record of supporting subverting the law, the will of the people, and common decency. That is your source?

    Were you really an intelligence analyst?
     
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    It's conclusion proof that Obama is the one orchestrating the soft coup against President Trump. That's why it's Exhibit A. Tell me what other motive he had for doing this if I'm so wrong in this conclusion?
     
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    If that is what you want to believe. If watch old videos, Lindsey Graham used to call Trump a loon. That is until he was paid off. He and McCain started the investigation into Trump, specifically.


    You can fake news all you want, but it does not change the fact that your dear leader, is a very bad president, and the majority of Americans wish he was gone.
     
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    Nice ad hominem attack on Mark Levin. As I said, the sources are the NYT, WaPo, McClatchy and The Guardian. Attack the messenger is a bad argument fallacy and tactic. Please refute the actual stories by the actual sources named above or concede the point.
     
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    I grew up in a conservative Christian household. Of course, I was the smart kid who kept questioning Christianity. As early as 5 years old, I was openly asking, why would anyone want to go to church?

    Besides the usual "false witnessing" Christians like to commit, concerning non-Christians, and especially nonbelievers, a common refrain I would hear was, "Those who don't stand for something will fall for anything." Of course they seemed to be glossing over the fact that I was early standing firm in my unacceptance of what I, even as a child, saw as a whole lot of gobblygook.

    In all my life, never have I fallen for a scam. Never have I become so attached to leader, that I wore clothing, broadcasting that fact. Clearly I am not the one falling williy nilly, for anything. When we look around at the conspiracy theory world, is it not all Conservative Christians. Marketing people love them, as they are so easily marketed to. Con artist women, pick them out of a crowd.

    It is like with global warming. Only one demographic denies it. Guess which one . The same one that thinks Jim Acosta, "put hands" on that aide


    You can go on with your little conspiracy, but I can guarantee that nothing will come of it. Yea, we know, Obama bugged Trump tower and all that. But that is just the kind of misinformation that people like Mark Levin are paid to feed you.


    You should read up on the origins of the Heritage Foundation and FOX News. Central to their core mission was, and always has been, to spread false information, especially false information about Democrats.
     
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    “I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal,” Barr told Senators. “I think spying did occur, yes,” because of a probable “failure among a group of leaders in the upper echelon” of the FBI."

    This actually is a rather farfetched notion. No doubt Barr said it to an audience of one. Trump has been saying the very same thing for months.

    It is a rather incredulous far right conspiracy that makes no sense.

    Who conducted the spying? Well, according to Barr and Trump, the Trump administration, meaning the DOJ and the FBI, which was led by Trump appointees. The theory then speculates that two FBI lovers who were sending love notes (text messages) to each other were the leaders of this coup attempt. The theory bases the accusation on the contents of the love notes.

    The theory goes to say that members of this revolutionary group included multiple federal judges who issued FISA warrants strictly on the basis of the Steele Dossier.

    Devin Nunes, the former chairman of the House Intelligence Committee believed all this B.S., and he investigated the conspiracy theory for two years. He got nowhere. There is no report of his findings because there was nothing to report.
     
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