Confronting the Gun Carnage in the US

You're counting fatalities, not murders. Why? Because you're including justifiable homicides. Clever right? Not really.

Read the link and weep bud.

Vermont has had constitutional carry for a Looooong time. Too bad it doesn't fit your profile

 

No, firearm fatalities are of great concern to Americans, whether you like it or not.

A young, white male armed with a Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle and ten magazines with 30 rounds each shooting to death 26 people, including 20 children between six and seven years old, is not regarded in the same way as an even greater number of octogenarians dying in nursing homes.

 

Because the total number of deaths by firearms - suicides, homicides, and accidents - is the topic.

 

Who gives a **** about JUSTIFIABLE homicides in a negative context?

 

The OP and all the other "concerned" liberals need to worry about things that kill tens of thousand of more people than guns, like drugs for instance.

 

In a months time they kill that many with guns is Chicago and other democrat run cities. Yet you are silent on those killings---------WHY?

 

There are 4 times as many homicides by stabbing in the US as there are by rifles. Have you done a survey to establish that carnage by silverware is more popular than carnage by AK-47 --- a civilian firearm that gun grabbers like to call assault weapons or weapons of war.

Since you broke down the country mainly in terms of large minority population percent versus low minority population percent, is there a certain demographic that should automatically fail a background check?

 

If you wish to initiate a thread concerning an inordinately high level of lethal stabbings in the US compared to all other advanced nations, or a wide disparity between the states with the highest level of fatal blade attacks per capita and the states with the lowest, I see no reason why you shouldn't.

This thread concerns firearm fatalities, a matter concerning which the American public, overwhelmingly, is demanding a legislative response.

If there is such a public demand for the sensible regulation of daggers, stilettos, machetes, and other such bladed man-enhancers, I am unaware of it.

 

So now you claim to be spokesman for Americans! No matter how much globalist backed propagandists try to blow this issue out of proportion there are always a majority of Americans who are clear thinking enough to see the issue for what it is.
The problem with public attacks is not gun ownership, it is modern society driving people to do desperate acts. It is the globalist agenda which robs people of their hope to ever have a decent life. It is liberalism which threatens their freedoms and their prosperity.

The facts are plain to see. We have been an armed nation since our very beginnings, and mass violence has only been an issue for the past 30 / 40 years.
The guns have not changed, society has, and it has changed for the worse. Liberalism and socialism are ruining America and that is what is driving people to do desperate acts, and robbing them of more of their freedoms is not going to fix that.

 

In short, Democrats don't care about lives of US citizens. They only care that the NRA supports the Constitution and, therefore, Republicans. If Democrats would ever admit their agenda, we could begin having a worthwhile discussion.

 

One consequence of the permissive firearm laws in the US that makes its firearm fatality rate via suicide, homicide, and accident so much higher than all other advanced nations, and lax laws in some states make their firearm fatality rate so much higher than others, is that the proliferation of firearms increases the theft of firearms.

 

Do gun fanatics understand that this is a deadly problem?

 

STATES WITH THE HIGHEST FIREARM FATALITY RATES:​

1. Alaska - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 23.0 per 100,000

2. Alabama - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 21.4 per 100,000

3. Louisiana - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 21.2 per 100,000

4. Mississippi - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 19.8 per 100,000

5. Oklahoma - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 19.6 per 100,000

6. Montana - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 19.0 per 100,000

7. Missouri - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 18.8 per 100,000

8. New Mexico - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 18.2 per 100,000

9. Arkansas - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 17.7 per 100,000

10. South Carolina - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 17.7 per 100,000
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And, looking at Tennessee that barely missed the Top Ten:

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What law or laws would work? There's already plenty of gun laws and laws against murder. You can't outlaw suicides or accidents

 

Cheesburgers are a deadlier problem. When are you going after them?

 

The American public overwhelmingly supports sensible gun regulation.

When crackpots take advantage of the nation's cheeseburger permissiveness to slaughter children instead of using assault rifles, Americans will, undoubtedly, express such concern regarding cheeseburgers.

 

Knife fatalities are a great concern for Brits. Automobile fatalities are a great concern for everyone. Any fatality is a great concern.

 

Indeed.

Americans overwhelmingly demand that the firearm permissiveness in the US be addressed by sensible legislation.

The enormous disparity in firearm fatalities per capita between the states with the highest and the states with the lowest may provide guidance:

1. Alaska - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 23.0 per 100,000

2. Alabama - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 21.4 per 100,000

3. Louisiana - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 21.2 per 100,000

4. Mississippi - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 19.8 per 100,000

5. Oklahoma - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 19.6 per 100,000

6. Montana - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 19.0 per 100,000

7. Missouri - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 18.8 per 100,000

8. New Mexico - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 18.2 per 100,000

9. Arkansas - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 17.7 per 100,000

10. South Carolina - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 17.7 per 100,000


... and the states with the least:


50. Massachusetts - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 3.4 per 100,000

49. Rhode Island - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 4.0 per 100,000

48. New York - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 4.4 per 100,000

47. Hawaii - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 4.5 per 100,000

46. Connecticut - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 4.6 per 100,000

45. New Jersey - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 5.5 per 100,000

44. Minnesota - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 7.6 per 100,000

43. California - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 7.9 per 100,000

42. Maine - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 8.2 per 100,000

41. Washington - Firearm deaths per 100,000 people: 9.0 per 100,000

https://247wallst.com/special-report/2018/02/20/states-with-the-most-gun-violence-2/
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Sensible legislation like this?

 

I should buy one of those and wear it to town and video the reactions.

 

Wear it, and a MAGA hat.

Totally mess with people's heads.

 

If you regard that as "sensible legislation," I see no reason why you can't.

As a practical matter, I suspect that it is no more viable than is doing nothing to address the current permissiveness that results in so many firearm fatalities in the US (In some states, far more than in others, as we have seen.).

The public support for universal background checks, "red flag" laws, followed by gun licensing, assault-weapons bans, and bans on high-capacity magazines are far, far more popular measures than is confiscation.

 

The comparative figures are as stated: firearm fatalities - including suicides, homicides, and accidental shootings.

If you have numbers for the states concerning your "justifiable homicides" please provide a link to them, by all means.

 

I am not sure the majority of Americans truly understand "universal background checks". It would be an unenforceable law that would only be obeyed only by the law abiding.