Congressman: Jewish settlers are like termites

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  1. DrewBedson

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    And now most Palestinians live outside Israel. Your point?
     
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    Not at all, they never had their own country and to this day have refused all opportunities to have one.
     
  3. DrewBedson

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    Jews accepted fifteen peecent of the area with the Peel Comossion which is a lot less than the hundred percent they owned at one time but the Ara s would have none of it wherS the Native Americans agreed to their land with treaties.
     
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    Polish and Russian Jews in the twentieth century were not alive thousands of years ago.
     
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    Here is how to solve the problem and I know what I am talking about as I have had experiences in that part of the world.

    As long as huge amount of Monetary Aid and Military Aid keep flowing to both the Israeli's and the Palestinian's.....neither sides leaders will sue for peace.

    On one hand you have the Israeli's who are being given over $20 BILLION a year in Aid for the U.S. both Military and Monetary as well as who knows how many Billions being donatd by Jewish citizens in the states.

    Then you have the Billions of Dollars being given to the Palestinian's over the years and although the U.S. does not give them anywhere near as much as Israel....they also get Aid money from the Arabs both Sunni and Shia as well as from Iran.

    Now it is well known that Yasser Arafat stole over $20 Billion in Palestinian Aid Money and he placed in in Swiss accounts. When Arafat died both Hamas and Fatah went to his relatives and told them Palestine needed that money and if they gave it back they could keep 10%.

    The relatives said no then Fatah and Hamas asked the United States to use it's massive influence to force the Swiss Banks to give back the money.

    We told them we would try but by the time we got that done the money would have been moved to other off shore accounts and that is exactly what happened as the U.S. forced the Swiss into Banking Transparency but the $20 Billion plus was moved well before we got that done.

    As long as Leaders on both sides keep getting and stealing Aid money.....there is absolutely no reason why they would EVER want to sue for peace.

    SOLUTION TO PROBLEM.....the U.S. completely cuts of all monetary aid and military aid to both sides and cuts off any incoming aid from other nations by our influence in the banking sector.

    Peace will then occur in 6 months!

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  6. Pisa

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    Neither was Abu Mazen. What's your point, Heinie?
     
  7. creation

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    Indeed, we agree. And defending oneself against an overwhelmingly well armed belligerent unfortunately often results in causing civilian casualties. Thankfully Hamas has refrained from using suicide bombers against civilian targets or forcing its population to become human shields or conduct mass wave attacks against the invasion. And with Hamas's few weapons rather than numerous Israeli weapons bought from the worlds most advanced suppliers it acheives a combatant: civilian casualty ratio far greater than all the western nations in WW2. Moreover the numbers of Israelis killed either IDF or civilian has been remarkably few from a group that is supposed to want to exterminate every Jew on the planet.

    LOL.

    They encourage people to defend their homes rather than see them destroyed, that's not a human shield.

    The BBCs Jeremy Bowen was actually there;
    http://www.newstatesman.com/world-a...aw-no-evidence-hamas-using-palestinians-human

    No, wrong. In fact they fire from all the areas of Gaza both open and closed in a constantly moving pattern in order to evade targeting.


    LOL, again, thats encouraging the population to defend their homes, not forcing them to stay there.

    There's alot more is there? Youre right, there sure is;
    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-deny-being-put-in-line-of-fire-30448511.html

    LOL.


    Yes, it is good to see even handed civilsed nations on the earth;
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-30511569

    Good question, here's a better one. How many resolutions in the UN are made against Israeli policy? Please provide the stats from a legitimate source thanks.




    LOL. Pathetic. Pointing rockets north is not a targetting capability. Then you destroy your point by linking to a Hareetz report where Hamas states that if they had better targetting weapons they would use them more effectively against the IDF.

    Try to write something that defends your point of view.

    LOL. Israel is effecting a long term seige with the worlds most expensive weapons. Hamas is sending up low grade rockets in the general direction of Israel.

    And again. You defeat your own point. Hamas easily beats the west, which was not under seige. You need to instead quote figures which give a worse ratio for Hamas than either Israel or the West during its last all out war.


    I am smirking indeed. Children arent excluded by Israel either, doesnt make them independent actors. But please go ahead and show where children in the west are considered independent adults who make their own decisions on where to live.

    Otherwise I call BS.


    I didnt forget anything, you did though. You forgot to say that that the congressman didnt call all Jews insects. The OP refers to settlers. Well you either forgot or youre just trying to deceive the forum as usual - which is it?
     
  8. Pisa

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    Please prove that Israeli leaders stole aid money.
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    The money was not directly stolen as did the Palestinian Leadership which basically just pocketed the money.

    Most of the money Israel get's is in the form of Military aid and weapons but they do get cash and that money is funneled into various Israeli Defense contractors who the Israeli Leadership have vested interests in.

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  10. Pisa

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    Details? Source?

    How's funneling money from military aid to defense contractors "theft"?
     
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    It's theft when a good portion of that money is designated for kick backs to Israeli politician's and relatives as payment for having that money directed into those specific contractors and in some cases consultants.

    Don't be fooled....although the Palestinian theft of Aid money is truly overt....the Israeli's simply hae a much more covert method of theft.

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    Can you give us some factual examples of Israel's terrorist attacks?
     
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    I'm sure every human is a termite by his standard. I don't mind being a termite. I like the idea of using wood to benefit my life. Of course I don't literally eat wood but that's another issue.
     
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    Palestinians like Native Americans both lived as tribal people, nation or not.
     
  16. creation

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    Pre state Israel had numerous terror groups committing terror against buses and markets.

    I'll get examples if you like. But for now let me ask you a question instead.....

    If what I say is true. In your mind does that change anything about your viewpoint?
     
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    And neither did Israelis for that matter. It's often claimed that the existence of a vague pre medieval kingdom gives Jewish people more right to claim the territory than anyone else. But it's complete self serving nonsense.
     
  18. FreedomSeeker

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    The whole problem comes down to the problem of faith - "we are [an invisible man in the sky's] chosen people". This supremacism, this racism, all due to faith, is the underlying problem. "An invisible man in the sky GAVE US THIS LAND!"....see what the underlying problem is? Yes....faith. Faith (belief w/out court-room level of evidence) that an invisible man in the sky exists and chose a mass murderer (see Exodus 32:28 ) as his #1 role model (Moses.)

    The Muslim/Christian/Jewish role model (Moses) slaughtering 3000 people: http://biblehub.com/exodus/32-28.htm
    Jesus allegedly met with this mass-murderer during the "transfiguration", but didn't condemn him for his mass-murderer, or of course Christians today would not include Moses' part of the OT in their Bibles today, obviously.
     
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    Not really. Hardly any Israelis or arabs really have spirituality. What they have is ethnic and cultural identity.
     
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    Can't speak for 'em all, but this one is definitely intolerant.
     
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    Not true, as a large majority of them are religious (i.e. have faith in an invisible man in the sky who gives them land, and says they are superior to others - both religions have that (Islam and Judaism.)
     
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    ENOUGH people believe this religious nonsense that it makes religion dangerous - we're seeing the daily problems due to religion (terrorism throughout the world, meant to please their imaginary friend in the sky.)

    Here's the list of 28,000+ (that's a lot!) terrorist attacks from one religion alone, since 9/11 alone: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
     
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    He is indeed a Democrat, and I disagree with him strongly, just as I disagree with Trump's misuse of the Star of David.

    However, what you write about Pres. Obama is pure bunk.
     
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    Your supposedly analogy, does not have one leg to stand on. Arabs (so called Palestinians) were roamer with caravans with loaded camels like gypsies selling their wares North, South, East and West... they were never a Nation and were NEVER independent to come up with a history of the Jews stole their country when there was no (so called) Palestinian country to speak of!!! OTH, historically the Land was the old Patrimony of the Jews (see the Bible) and the Jews have all the rights in the world to return to it!!!
     
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