Corona Virus Update

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    The same faulty test kits are everywhere, and money is tight everywhere.

    It's pretty clear at this point, that the US disaster is a direct result of not locking down, hard and early. Blame leadership, or the American people ("but muh freedoms!"), either way, that's where the blame lies.
     
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    But they implemented full lockdown AFTER the horse had bolted.
     
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    There's a problem with this data .. it doesn't allow for the variance in definition of 'full lockdown'. See my post above for Australia's version (and New Zealand's is even stricter). I'm willing to be that many of those other nations you listed have nowhere near the same restrictions ... and some probably have more.
     
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    I've read his book - "The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower" - 2015

    Yes, the virus was traced to the Horseshoe bat which is not indigenous to the Wuhan area (closest know habitat is ~ 500 miles away). They were however using the bat in the lab. There was a Chinese paper that I linked to in this or another thread in which the authors concluded that the bats came from the lab - either escaped or possible sold in the wet market.
     
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    Yes they have. My mistake going on memory. It does appear that both countries are over the peak however.
     
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    Italy's in practice version of lockdown was nothing like Australia's. This is common knowledge, amongst observers. The culture just didn't tolerate social distancing, at all. They literally ignored it.
     
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    I'm fairly sure that a full lockdown is very strict but I'm not going the trouble to document each one. Italy's full lockdown was for example very strict.
     
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    The numbers only started going down AFTER we went into lockdown. It was incredibly effective.
     
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    No. We developed our very own.
    It had bugs
    and CDC was the only place running it.
     
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    Unfortunately, Italians ignored it. Especially older Italians .. hence the high death rate.
     
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    But lack of a nationwide lock down was another biggie.
     
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    Must be a common problem, in that case.
     
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    That's their family culture. Spain has the same issue. But the thing that hit Italy very hard is that the Chinese had bought garment factories in northern Italy. There were 300,000 Chinese (workers, families, managers) associated with these factories who were continually flying back and forth between Wuhan and Italy especially during the lunar festival. The Red Chinese did nothing to stop this traveling. And the coronavirus was transferred to Italy in that way. So again it is the Red Chinese who are responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Italians - 88% of which had serious and in some case multiple serious preconditions.
     
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    By looking at the deaths per million of population. Sweden is doing much better than the countries I listed.
     
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    Sweden has not implemented full lockdown.
     
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    It's not what he knew (and shared), it's how various nations interpreted that shared information. If you, as a leader, knew that your citizenry would respond badly to martial law, you're going to find ways to defer and delay. Canada - and any other nations now doing well in the face of this virus - did not have that issue, and so could act immediately.
     
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    Yes, and now they're paying the price.
     
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    Too bad he neglected it for three years.
     
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    Sweden's Deaths Per Million is Accelerating.

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    And our medical experts did not think that the dishonest Red Chinese data indicated a serious threat as of 2/17. Trump was listening to them. But again 95% of those who have died from the Coronavirus would be alive today if it were not for the coverup and dishonesty of the Red Chinese.
     
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    It will always increase. The slope is linear.
     
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    They are doing better than many countries which have implemented full shutdown.
     
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    A push for more aid stalled in the Senate. In the last three weeks, 16 million U.S. workers filed for jobless benefits. A principal investigator in a federal clinical trial of antiviral drugs urges caution. European Union finance ministers agreed to more than half a trillion euros’ worth of programs to lift economies ravaged by the coronavirus.
     
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    No it isn't.
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    And while they had a slightly reduced slope for a week or so, it is taking off again.
     

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