Corona Virus Update

This is not about trump. I know that shakes the planet for trumpers but it simply isn't the case that the world revolves around him and all of the crackpot conspiracy theories he and his fox clan trumpet. .

This is about the most logical response to a terribly difficult crisis. The general welfare of the public has to be considered in terms of both public health and economics.

Trump's position is that he will do whatever he thinks is best for his chance of reelection. He is willing to kill people and lie about the number of deaths in order to increase his chance of success.

In short, those most at risk are expendable to trump.

 

You're right - its about him losing in November.

If that were the case, the US economy would not have shut down, and Democrats/liberals would not be screaming it should remain that way..

The leftist/Democrats position is they will demand we do whatever they think gives them the best chance to beat him in November and are willing lie about the number of deaths and destroy as much of the economy as needed in order to increase their chance of success.

In short, the livelihoods and financial security of poor, the working class, and small business owners are expendable to those desperate to defeat Trump.

 

Some Governors are wanting their residents to stay at home longer until either the end of May, sometime in June or July or longer, which is quite logical to avoid the consequences of the Coronavirus. Washing your hands for 20-30 seconds, keeping away from each other for 6 feet, and wearing the masks are also logical to avoid the consequences of the COVID 19. You could bring in an outsider and put that outsider in with 50+ other people maskless and closer than 1 to 5 feet, and the result will bring that possibly the 50+ people will be infected just like that. I understand what is going on and have to accept what is. There are those out there that don't want to go by those rules and I understand their feelings about it. Who can blame them? There are those that feel that their freedom is taken away but it's for their own good. It's to avoid the consequences of COVID-19 and this will pass eventually.

 

Does anyone believe that there may be some consequences on reopening the economy and businesses and getting back the way things ought to be? I have thought of this and would we be doing the right thing in doing so? It's like going outside after suffering something like the flu that hit hard. You want to return to things the way they were but you don't know if you'll get worse. Would you be willing to take the chance to do it. The way things are and this country is out to get out of quarantine, it would have consequences to this would it? I don't want to be sorry taking a risk that includes consequences.

 

That was smart. There were some folk ahead of the curve here, who got out before travel was restricted.

 

1.5 million living Americans, and 85,000 dead Americans.

 

The consequences will bad. How can they not be?

And wanting things to return to the way they were is understandable, but futile. The world is never going to be the same. Folk need to make peace with that, and start working towards a new normal - instead of clinging to the carcass of the old one.

 

And any immunity gained will be to the current mutation only. It's pointless.

 

C&C Breakfast and Korean Kitchen in Castle Rock, Colorado was closed down and license suspended indefinitely for opening full service on Mother's Day. Now that would have had the chance of the COVID-19 to spread and those that went there might have caught the Coronavirus just like that. It's putting other lives on the line if you know what I mean.

Do you see anyone wearing a mask in this picture? Would it be safe to be there? If we didn't have this Coronavirus Pandemic, It would be. I would challenge President Trump to join them. Whether he would or not would be another matter.

 

So we want to punish people looking to exercise their freedoms? You can't eat with a mask on, by the way. We saw what happened when common sense prevails in Wisconsin. This is what dictators do, they control others lives by force. Colorado is looking mighty pantheid right now.

 

The only consequence is nature would take her course. And this makes lockdown advocates steaming. We have to take that chance, unwilling or not. Everyday that a governor has their state locked down, let alone fining people for exercising freedoms, on both sides of the political spectrum, shows just how pathetic they really are.

 

How is the world never gong to be the same? We have to remind ourselves that China went back to being the same after the SARS outbreak in 2003. Handshakes will come back, in-person concerts will come back, people will return to their cubicles, this isn't some permanent, life-changing thing. We've survived many viruses before this one, there is no need for a new normal. The new normal will be the old normal.

 

Please say this wasn't actually Mothers' Day. There's no way ...

 

Sure .. if you pretend that COVID is the same as past viruses. Good luck with that.

COVID has a transmission ratio of 1 to 6. SARS was 1 to 2, at its worst.

 

You are not free to risk the lives of .others .Wtf?



Confusing freedom with idoiocy



Govt musy try to protect us from the the nuts.

 

Indeed We can't stay locked down indefinitely.

 

Most recover from this virus. Its only a life or death situation if you're elderly or immune situation. So the lives you claim are at risk are at risk for mild symptoms, those under 40 at least.

 

We've gone through the Spanish Flu, H1N1, Zika, and Ebola. Our society didn't need to transition to a "new normal." COVID will eventually be added to the list of viruses we have dealt with.

 

If America had locked down properly, at the start, you'd be closed to done with it by now. Go hard and go early, or pay for it via a much longer disruption to the economy.

 

No, we have not been through anything like a low mortality virus with a 1 to 6 transmission ratio. That's a lethal combination.

Even Ebola - which does have a high transmission rate - isn't anything like this, since the infected die before they can spread it. Why do you think Ebola has remained in small pockets, and not spread around the world?

 

couldn't echinacea help?

 

I wonder if we lost anything in BC by not locking down. They were always free to go back and forth from Vancouver to Saturna Island.

We have a long weekend coming up and we'll see if we spread the virus around.

 

I think all nations should have locked down. It's the only 'vaccine' we have at this point.

 

Not correct, Ebola victims can transmit the virus after death. The virus remains active on the skins of victims post mortem for days (up to 10 or so) depending on how they are stored. So people burying the dead are also exposed. The reason it hasn't expanded across the globe is that firstly it is highly lethal so victims don't have much time to spread the disease to others before they become symptomatic - and thus obviously ill. Secondly the area where the viruses host species (bats) reside are geographically remote with poor (read terrible) transport infrastructure. This means that usually outbreaks are discovered before they can spread to highly urbanized population centers with large scale public transport infrastructure (railways and airports).

So thank your lucky stars the host species isn't pigeons or rats. In that case it would go global.

 

Herd immunity is a biological fact. That you are not aware of that is a personal problem.