Could testosterone differences explain race and crime gaps?

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  1. rayznack

    rayznack Well-Known Member

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    The following study shows testosterone differences between Blacks and Whites:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3455741

    In the United States and Britain, where race and crime data are recorded, Blacks have significantly higher crime rates than Whites; the data shows persistent differences in violent crime rates between the two groups, regardless of changing socio-economic levels for Blacks.

    However, testosterone gaps between Whites and Blacks have not significantly changed.

    Since only a constant independent variable can explain the constant gap of race based violent crime, should inherent differences, such as testosterone, become a more accepted explanation for Black and White violent crime raters than currently?
     
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    Please don't feed the troll.
     
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    By itself I doubt increased testosterone explains the statistics. Personally I feel culture has at least a part to play in this...The African cultures are generally more likely to allow theft, violence, and excessive reproduction. It seems to me at least, that this cultural tendency has not adapted well to the society we forced it into.
     
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    By itself, I don't believe it accounts for all or even most of the difference either. Rather, I believe it is multi-variable with testosterone being one among several 'inherent' and 'cultural' reasons.

    But testosterone differences must account for some of the crime gap between Blacks and Whites.

    To believe otherwise is to suddenly ignore that we accept testosterone is why men have higher violent crime rates than women.
     
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    You fed him.

    :clapping:
     
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    Now i know why I dont have a beard.
     
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    I wish they would stop being so sexist already and just give us the study on how differences in Estrogen level explains gaps in crime!

    :hug:

    Also, sorry guys, you have estrogen too!
     
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    Brilliant. Why is this never a topic instead of the mundane 'how come [so-called] blacks fill our prisons' spiel?

    Clearly somebody has a racist agenda.
     
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    Somolia has one of the lowest murder rates in the world. It's largely untouched by Colonialism. Coincidence?

    It's easy to kidnap a group of people, herd them into ghettos, oppress them, then blame them for their problems.
     
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    penis envy?

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    yup, definitely penis envy....
     
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    Envy that? :D
    you guys actually think someone would want one of those things?
     
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    Don't flatter yourself. :grin:
     
  13. rayznack

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    Apart from the fact they're going through an insurgency and have lived under warlord rule for around twenty years.

    I have to wonder, what makes you believe statistics from a failed state?

    Btw, the testosterone differences between Blacks and Whites is of data of West African Blacks.

    I do not have a study on testosterone levels of East African Blacks, making your point moot.
     
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    Here, let me cut to the chase for you...IT'S THE BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKS!!!
     
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    It's a stretch to blame testosterone differences on anything else than biology.
     
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    Shouldn't you be out burning a cross somewhere? Your motives are completely transparent. Move on, Troll.
     
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    you're giving excuses for a lazy, primitive black thug culture. You also have white mans guilt. When my fellow brownies become the majority in this country, we will not put up with the black garbage thug culture
     
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    Strange response. I didn't know I was trying to hide my 'motives' or that they are really important.

    I take it you can't refute the fact that West African Blacks have higher testosterone levels than Whites; or my reasoning that this gap is partly responsible for the violent crime differences between the two groups.

    Fair enough.

    But I'm curious why facts and analysis bother you so much. If I'm right, then your belief for what causes the Black-White crime gap is wrong, and your approach will never work.

    Normal people who actually care about victims in society would actually care more about that than worrying about 'racists'.
     
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    Who do you consider to be a brownie? Black / hispanic? East Indians?
    Filipinos?
     
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    I find it funny how you racists look to science to support your bigotry...when it actually doesn't. Perhaps you should be researching the topic of, why racists are so insecure.
     
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    indeed they think genetics supports their racist crap, that it separates humanity into distinct classifications but any geneticist will tell you it does precisely the opposite, it links us all even closer together....
    and its the same usual suspects too, using science they do not comprehend as cover to hide their blatant racism... racism is the product of ignorance...
     
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    So you're disputing testosterone and aggression are linked?

    Or, Blacks have higher levels of testosterone than Whites?

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    Can you distinctly classify dog breeds?

    Or are you claiming there are no differences in intelligence and behavior between a pit-bull and border collie?
     
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    Q.E.D.
     
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    dog breeds are nothing more than incestous breeding...a dog is still a dog regardless of breed...breeds are no different than human familes, smiths, goldstiens or Kenedys, all the same species all still sapiens...this very simple biology you're messing up...
     
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    Uh huh. Great, at least we agree dog breeds and ethno-racial groups are analogous.

    So, are pitbulls and border collies endowed with the same intelligence and behaviors?

    Would we expect as many pitbulls to win intelligence competitions as border collies; and as many people/dogs to be attacked by border collies as pit-bulls?
     

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