Court ruling could upend Pa. Senate race

Big Bad John.... Local boy makes good.... Non-local boy is a MAGA.... Should be a pretty easy choice for Pennsylvanians, as they soundly rejected the last MAGA candidate in-state...

I'll start worrying if a Fetterman flunky starts telling me the candidate could live to be 200 yo.

 

Fetterman's wife: Uh, he might be off the campaign trail for another month

More mullet than brains.
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Once responded to a firecracker by grabbing his shotgun and running down an unarmed black jogger and held him at gunpoint. Now he's unable to campaign due to previously undisclosed multiple severe health problems.

Gisele Fetterman to CNN:

“I think he deserves a month break.”

"Asked if John Fetterman would return to campaigning by July in one of the nation’s marquee Senate contests, she replied: “Maybe. I think so. That’s my hope.”…

"It’s not just atrial fibrillation that’s giving him heart problems, it’s cardiomyopathy. And his stroke wasn’t “minor,” it was bad enough to have killed him if he hadn’t been treated so quickly. In the words of the candidate himself, “I almost died.”

Seems more serious than they have been letting on.

And another mystery:

"Why is a guy who’s been out of the hospital for weeks, is reportedly walking several miles per day, and is fit for the Senate according to his own doctors (provided he follows their advice) so hard for reporters to get hold of? Fetterman hasn’t done a single interview since he was discharged, as far as I’m aware. He’s cut occasional videos for his campaign’s social media feeds but they’re conspicuously short. One would think he, not his wife, could be updating the media on his condition and his campaign plans. There’s no obvious reason that he can’t hold some remote campaign events from the comfort of his living room to rally his troops while he’s physically recuperating."

Is he able to hold a conversation?

"His appearances on video released by the campaign have shown him speaking only a few sentences at a time. His ability to have conversations rapidly has not fully recovered, though he is improving and doctors still predict a full recovery."

That's nice. And he's been so upfront about everything that there are no valid reasons to doubt that he and the Mrs are being perfectly candid. Afterall, "Bad News First" are both their middle names!

Democrat consultants wonder why they can't get details: “It’s not as if admitting some health issue would immediately cause people to seek a replacement.”

Everyone seems to really trust everyone on that side.

 

FWIW, the SCOTUS refused to hear this case, meaning the 3rd Circuit decision stands for now... Undated ballot envelopes will be counted. Didn't affect the GQP Senate Primary, as it turns out...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/supreme-court-pennsylvania-mail-ballots-undated/index.html

Naturally, Alito is unaware of the details of the Federal Law that allowed the decision. Scary when I know the law better than somebody posing as a SCOTUS...

 

Fake News. He wasn't ignorant of his serious heart problem, he was aware of it and he ignored it. It's hard to decide if that was dumber, or picking up a shotgun, running down an unarmed black jogger and holding him at guin point because he heard a firecracker.

This guy isn't going to be winning any brain function awards that's for sure.

As for voter fraud: Former House Rep Pleads Guilty To Ballot-Stuffing For Dems In Five Elections

When Democrats take "ballot access" to the next level...
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He SOLD election fraud services to other Leftists.

"A former congressman has pleaded guilty to participating in a conspiracy to fraudulently create votes for Democrat candidates in five different election years."

"Michael "Ozzie" Myers, 79, pleaded guilty on Wednesday to charges of conspiracy to deprive voters of civil rights, bribery, obstruction of justice, falsification of voting records, and conspiring to illegally vote in a federal election. "

"Myers paid Philadelphia election officials upwards of $5,000 per election to add fraudulent votes on voting machines—a practice called "ringing up" votes—and to falsely certify the voting machine tallies were accurate."

"Carried out in 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018 elections in Philadelphia, the scheme benefitted candidates for federal, state and local offices, including judicial candidates. According to the FBI, Myers solicited payments from candidates in the form of cash or checks, with some labelled as "consulting fees.""

"The crime also entailed falsifying polling books and lists of voters by entering names of voters who had not appeared at a given polling station. One of the bribed election officials, Marie Beren, also instructed real voters whom to vote for. "

Carefully monitored emerging totals so that he knew how many "votes" to cook up in order to steal the election.

"During Election Day itself, Myers conferred with Beren via cell phone while she was at the polling station about the number of votes cast for his preferred candidates. Beren would report to Myers how many “legit votes,” meaning actual voters, had appeared at the polls and cast ballots. If actual voter turnout was high, Beren would add fewer fraudulent votes in support of Myers’ preferred candidates."

Not the smart one.​

 

Necro'ing this thread, since it's the only PA Senate thread this year..

Pat Toomey is apparently leaving on a very poor note, which cannot bode well for the NJ resident running to replace him

A few of the kinder comments...

SNIP
On the floor, Chairman of the Veterans’ Affairs Committee, Senator Jon Tester D-Mont., accused Toomey of “having a problem” with supporting the country’s veterans. “If you have the guts to send somebody to war, then you better have the guts to take care of them when they get home,” said Tester.

"This is total b*******," Gillibrand said. "This is the worst form of over-politicization I have literally ever seen. This is total B.S."

Gillibrand railed against Toomey for his "11th hour" decision to revise and, ultimately, tank the measure: "How he convinced 25 of his colleagues to change the vote, I have no idea. What the hell? How does this happen?"
ENDSNIP

https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-borough...expanding-care-for-veterans-exposed-to-toxins

 

Hmm.. So, in your mind, If I showed up to a legitimate polling place, and there isn't anyone to collect my vote, i should be still able to demand that my vote count, right? Because that is your logic.

The problem here is with satisfaction of the rules. Either you do, or you do not. There isn't a sort of. So, back to my case, I'm a registered voter. I have a valid ID, and I want to vote when it is convenient for me. The polling place isn't open, but I demand that my vote count anyway. Cause that's not a slippery slope.

And when did democrats EVER not like complexity to cover for their own fraud? The touting of this as a victory for democrats just continues the narrative that no matter how much cheating and how many controls applied to stop that cheating, that democratic judges will review the law in a favorable way to continue to allow said cheating. If that means relying on a SCOTUS decision that doesn't' apply to their case facts, or just inventing new legal theory to cover their backsides... So, because the mere fact that the polling station isn't open, given the federal requirement cited, my vote should still count because, an error or omission on any record is not material to determining whether Im qualified under tate law to vote in the election.

You use this as a meme for crafting federal voting laws. Would you let republicans craft that law, and would you support it say in Feb of 2023?

 

Huh?? Nowhere in my OP is that issue discussed. The OP is about writing an unnecessary, unverifiable, and unused date on a mail in ballot envelope.

However, after giving it some thought... I agree with your premise.. If I show up to a "legitimate polling place" during announced polling hours, and there is nobody there, my vote still needs to count. Not sure how that will work however.

Is there an example of this happening that you'd like to share?

 

Fetterman is at it again....

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/john-fetterman-enlists-jersey-legend-182736058.html

After AOC, he's probably the next best D on social media use. Why would anybody spend money on TV and radio when you can get freebies like this??

 

Dr. Oz...."mentally and physically on vacation"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-complain-trump-backed-dr-170031462.html

Sort of like the guy who endorses him....

 

July 29,2022

PHILADELPHIA — Democrats John Fetterman and Josh Shapiro hold big early leads in Pennsylvania’s critical races for U.S. Senate and governor, while their Republican opponents face significant skepticism from voters, according to a Fox News poll released Thursday.

Despite Pennsylvanians’ worries about the economy and deeply negative views of President Joe Biden, Fetterman, the Democratic lieutenant governor, leads Republican Mehmet Oz 47% to 36% in the race for U.S. Senate, the poll found.

In the gubernatorial contest, Shapiro, the state attorney general, leads GOP state Sen. Doug Mastriano 50% to 40%, a wider margin than other early polls had found.

 

I detest polls, and I would question anything showing a more than 6% lead for either, but man, those are 2 GODAWFUL GQP candidates for any state, much less Pennsylvania....

 

RP politicians frequently win elections by exposing just how bad DP politicians really are, but the distinctions have become too fuzzy to guarantee an RP victory anymore.

IMO, gas will cost less than $3.50/gallon, inflation will ease before the election, and the stock markets are looking for any excuse to go up before November.

Vote RP -- We Suck Less!
Weak and Stupid.

 

You're not wrong. Philadelphia(and the surrounding counties) are die hard extreme blue. And only became purple for a time in 2016(barely). In 2020, the Democratic Party has recovered strongly here, and even though the city despised the Wolf regime, and even now the Kenney regime(Philly mayor). You will most certainly keep these seats.

It's a bit of good news for team blue, but Pennsylvania is for now solidly a blue State again. Only the outskirts of Pittsburgh and the farming counties lean red, but the centralization is in cities like Philly, Chester and Bucks county.

 

Governor is a keep.... Senator is a gain....

 

On to Arizona, for their Primary tomorrow.

Arizonans (??), PLEASE vote for this guy!! Pretty Pretty please

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-backed-arizona-candidate-says-205512118.html

This slate of whackadoos (Masters, Lake, Finchem) might make the 2 goobers in Pennsylvania looks relatively sane by comparison....

Put em ALL on the final ballot, Arizona GQP voters..... celebrate their insanity!!!

 

There are still sane justices out there....

SNIP
A wide expansion of mail-in voting in Pennsylvania survived a legal challenge on Tuesday before the state Supreme Court in a case brought by some of the same Republican state representatives who voted for the legislation nearly three years ago.

“We find no restriction in our Constitution on the General Assembly’s ability to create universal mail-in voting,” wrote Justice Christine Donohue in the majority opinion.
ENDSNIP

https://www.yahoo.com/news/justices-uphold-pennsylvanias-2019-mail-170835789.html

Obviously, the bolded part is the ironic part

 

When will Greiten call for a recount? lol
I'm just thrilled that the arrogant Republican sleazebag can't get anywhere near DC.

Missouri:

Results
RACE CALLED
65% of precincts reporting
Candidate
Party
Votes
Percent of vote
Eric Schmitt

Republican
208,741
46.23 %

Vicky Hartzler

Republican
101,626
22.51 %

Eric Greitens

Republican
86,469
19.15 %

Billy Long

 

It's a requirement to retain membership.

 

Damn... I was rooting for Greitens 110%..... the only thing that might have turned that seat Blue was a crazy MAGA (Ha Ha... that's redundant)....

No chance now, but things are looking up anyway...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/b...ip-on-senate-in-midterm-elections-11659542352

 

I thought about that too and came to the conclusion that there's a good possibility he could win the senate seat because all the Republicans who worked so hard and donated so much money to keep him from winning the primary would most likely vote for him come Nov.afraid to lose the seat,

 

This PA race is not shaping up well for the GOP and it could cost us control of the senate.

SENATE NOW RATED A TOSS-UP AFTER MOST PRIMARIES HAVE BEEN HELD:

"Even in a “red wave” election, winning the Senate is going to be an uphill battle for Republicans. Of the 35 seats up for grabs, Republicans are defending 21 of them while Democrats are defending only 14 seats, all of which are in states that voted for President Joe Biden in 2020. This limits Republicans’ offensive opportunities.'

https://electionbettingodds.com/Senate2022.html

Rounds to 50/50 with the tiniest of edges for the GOP

 

Did you ever consider that "electionbettingodds.com" may not be the best site to determine anything??

How's that trend line looking to you?? That's in just 3 weeks.... Wait until Herschel, Vance, and all the other MAGA's take to a debate stage.... (Jersey Boy will do OK, because he's used to telling lies on TV)

 

Do you see any benefit for Dr. Oz coming out and saying this today?? I sure don't... For one fleeting moment, Dr. Oz forget to follow the primary MAGA playbook....

SNIP
Asked at a press conference if he would have objected to the certification of the election results, Oz said that it is the job of the Senate to approve the Electoral College vote and that, had he been in the Senate at the time, he would have done so.

“I would not have objected to it,” Oz said. “By the time the delegates and those reports were sent to the U.S. Senate, our job was to approve it, which is what I would have done.”
ENDSNIP

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oz-says-certified-biden-win-170055406.html

It's not going to gain him much, if anything, and it could cost him a lot... I guess he figures T**** has already shown up for him, so there's little downside at this point... We shall see...

 

Oz is right. Pence was right. Nixon was right. Gore was right.

The thing I immediately found alarming in Trump's view of the VP's role as described in the 12th amendment, is that if Trump's view carried the day, Kamala Harris could invalidate the State Legislatures certified electors (or order them sent back to the States for further review, which is what I think that Trump actually wanted) which effectively throws the election to the House for the President and the Senate for VP, and if both Houses failed to name anyone, KAMALA WOULD BECOME ACTING PRESIDENT!

No matter what the question is, that's clearly not the answer. We have had 3 VP's all in this position, Nixon, Gore, Pence, and they all similarly determined that the VP's position is not a decision making one, it's more of an MC position.

Trump was right on a lot of things, but not this one, and this was a major league blunder.

 

I'll necro this thread back to you, because I'm pretty sure we agree on this ruling. Doubt this will last long in CE since there is no longer a Pa Senate Race, but I'm hoping Penn can finally put this STUPID Ballot Envelope date thing to rest (and perhaps get rid of the ****ing unused date field going forward)

SNIP
Mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania without accurate handwritten dates on their exterior envelopes must still be counted if they are received in time, a judge ruled Tuesday, concluding that rejecting such ballots violates federal civil rights law.

The decision has implications for the 2024 presidential election in a key battleground state where Democrats have been far more likely to vote by mail than Republicans.

The GOP has repeatedly fought in court to get such ballots thrown out, part of a campaign to invalidate mail-in ballots and mail-in voting in Pennsylvania after then-President Donald Trump baselessly claimed in 2020 that mail balloting was rife with fraud.
ENDSNIP

https://www.yahoo.com/news/federal-judge-says-pennsylvania-mail-140910679.html