Covid-19 is here to stay

Good analysis.

 

As I have pointed out, we have PLENTY of opportunities to reduce travel both within the US and abroad.

The fact that we don't have exactly the same type of borders is NOT AN EXCUSE for having done essentially NOTHING to slow travel in the US.

More importantly, travel is not the only tactic Europe has used.

Claiming that we SUCK for the sole reason that we don't have country borders within the US is just plain PATHETIC.

We've had a president who has made it clear that peole don't have to wear masks, who didn't accept the WHO tests that worked well before ours did, who waited too long to close the border with Europe and then when he did he did it in a way that caused huge crowds for long hours in airports with no plan for handling health status checking. Our president lobbied HARD for states to ignore calls for social separation and demanded that business like meat packing plants stay open even when it was clear that they were creating major hotspots.

The list of what we have NOT done goes on and on and on. AND, it is peppered by executive decisions that were the CAUSE of further spread.

Do NOT tell me Europe was successful because they have country borders.

 

Of course not. But a cold and the flu are very different maladies. The flu can kill people, colds rarely do so.

Abortion is not catching like a common cold - so don't compare them. Because the comparison is illogical.

The psychology-profession have nailed Trump for what he is. He suffers from a very bad case of narcissism.

But he is so proud an individual, he'll never admit it. Next January he will hopefully be gone and we can begin to forget him. His "reign" of office will have shown no reason whatsoever for calling it remarkable.

What pleases people like you is the fact that he is Very, Very Rich - which (to my mind) is the very last qualification for the presidency ...

 

Abortion is not a contracted virus. The two are therefore not mutually comparable ...

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Your argument was that Europeans do not travel as much.
No specifications.
When you were told that they were the travel world champions. You came up with some parks you visited and nor foreigner were there.

You never specified, that during the Corona lock down in Europe, Europeans could not travel.
When that was explained to you, you came up with I told you so.

You even did not know, that the US bans EU citizens from coming into the EU and many other folks from foreign countries, thats why you do not see any foreign tourists at our parks.


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COVID-19 mortality in US is less then in Europe.
Trump was right.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

 

What's comparable is that in the US, abortion currently kills more than 4 times as much human life as does covid. And the flu, which is a contracted virus, kills about 40,000 per year. Yet you are quick to discount both.

I don't think you're here over concern for life or covid, I think you're here to hype covid for political purposes, and to propagate your ill-conceived and irrational hatred of the president.

 

I specifically referenced the flu, not a cold. What is it about the flu that you can't deal with? Does it not fit within your political agenda?

 

It's total BS analysis. 1% of the US population is not going to die from covid. At worst, maybe 0.06% of those who contract covid might die from it, and that's a far far lower number than 1% of the entire population.

Add to that the fact that we have already seen the worst of the death rate, and it will continue to decline as time goes on, as we are already witnessing now.

 

It includes the sequelae of the disease which many don’t. For every death, there will be 35 people left with chronic conditions which may or not be disabling.


Mortality
Based on death certificate data, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia, influenza or COVID-19 (PIC) decreased from 6.9% during week 26 to 5.5% during week 27, representing the eleventh week of a declining percentage of deaths due to PIC. The percentage is currently below the epidemic threshold but will likely change as more death certificates are processed, particularly for recent weeks.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/covidview/index.html
Updated July 10, 2020

 

Europe 2,570,985 196,566
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


USA 3,413,995 137,782
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Europe has more people.

 

That doesn't make Trump right in any useful sense of the word.

Calling heads or tails correctly isn't useful, as it isn't a prediction based on evidence and includes no information or process concerning next moves.

I've seen no conclusion from medical science stating the reasons for changes in the percentage of infected people who die.

I HAVE see a lot of information emerging on damage that infected people will be living with for the rest of their lives. And, I've heard there is an increase in the number of young people suffering strokes as a result of COVID.

Trump took himself out of the COVID battle. Having him talking while sitting on the sidelines is no more than irritating.

 

I was talking about per capita cases.

 

Medical science should know, that COVID-19 is a RNA virus.
RNA viruses have very high rate of mutations.
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.3000003

Whatever virus we had in March and April is not the same that we have today.
Whatever has happened with COVID-19 is exactly what happened with SARS, MERS etc. they spread out, killed some people and then mutated into less harmful form.
There is absolutely no reason to support COVID-19 hysteria.

 

IF ONE HAS A BRAIN

Oh, cut the BS-commentary - will you?

The last time a flu of any real magnitude hit the US was 1919 and it killed many, many people. Here's a piece of American history from here that you need badly:

Live and learn - that is, if one has a brain to do so ... !

 

No, statistically you are comparing apples and oranges, which are both fruit. For a whimsy you have.

In statistical analysis likes-are-compared-with-likes to give a sense to the numeric results.

Learn a bit about statistical analysis and THEN come back to the discussion ... !

"Pol Meister", me arse ...

 

We'll work through the protest bulge.

Coronavirus surges linked mostly to protests — and proximity to US-Mexico border. “Protesting, sharing megaphones, screaming … That’s a setup to spread cases.”

 

GROW-UP UNCLE SAM!

Jerko in the Offal Office has got it All Wrong All Along. He is supposedly an educated person, but his irrational behaviour indicates otherwise. He's a hard-nosed Ultra-Rich Replicant (spoiled-brat by his parents) from the Hard Right. Who detests Obama quite simply because Obama ignored him - as anyone would or should.

Him and his BigMoney are totally irrelevant to the future of America.

We've gone off-track since Reckless Ronnie lowered upper-income taxation in the 1980s, thus allowing a Totally Unfair accumulation of riches by a select percentage of the population. When such taxation of the super-rich and a reduction in the DoD-budget could have given America what the EU has enjoyed for decades:
*A National Healthcare System that provides a life-span in Europe generally four-years longer than in the US. And,,
*A post-secondary schooling for all comers at a ridiculously low annual tuition - from here for the EU:

Income Disparity is the general measure that economists employ to understand the comparative fairness/unfairness of the distribution of income in a country. This chart here is what it looks like when calculated by the OECD (which is a group of economically comparable countries worldwide). The chart indicates clearly that the US is the least equitable/fair in terms of Income Inequality of all OECD comparable-countries with its Gini Coefficient measure at 0.39.

When is Uncle Sam going to Grow Up and recognize the fact that nearly 40% of Americans spend a lifetime below the Poverty Threshold*! (See chart here.)

When will we understand WHY our prisons are bursting at the seams? When ... ?!?

*And if you don't believe that either, see the chart here.

 

Democrats could have fixed all of this, if they decide not to pursue their agendas, illegal immigration, racial wars, special rights, pederasty etc.

 

Yes Europe was indeed successful precisely because they have 26 independent nations with borders that were closed. 50 US states could not do that so yes I will tell you the truth you don't want to hear.

 

In the context of the covid era no, Europeans were not allowed to travel so your argument that they could travel before covid is moot.

 

The title of your chart is a lie, which makes the rest of your post a lie as well.

The mortality rate for covid is not 1%. At worst, it might be about 0.06% of those who are infected, which is a far lower amount than your ridiculous claim of 3.282 million dead. You do get my award though for fear-monger of the day.

 

I don't know where you guys get off with this "hysteria" garbage.

Responding in a manner recommended by medical science is NOT HYSTERIA. That is science based medicine.

And, responding to it in the manner of Florida is NOT AN ECONOMIC SOLUTION.

So, what the heck?

If you want to present more medical information, how about presenting solutions from medical science, or what Europe is doing that is so crazy much more successful, or what we can do to help our overflowing hospitals (where they are oveflowing), or the medical findings that permanent damage from COVID19 is NOT limited to death?

 

I don't see any evidence of that.

So, cite something that supports your assertion.

 

More one-liner nonsense in a DEBATE Forum!

Go find a Message Board ...