COVID-19 Proves It: We Need Medicare-for-All

Neither? Well that sounds like a dodge if there ever was one.

 

I'm no expert, but I am enrolled in Medicare for the last 6 years and it works fine for me.

You post seems true and accurate.

 

Profits for private insurance up 29%
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/05/top...it-surge-29-percent-to-6-billion-dollars.html

they are doing fine....hysterical claims with no proof.

 

Agree
Not only that, but relatives had to jump through hoops with private insurance to get some coverage while on Medicare it improves that dramatically.
since Obamacare, even Medicare coverage has improved.

 

He thinks medicare runs hospitals, maintains the physical infrastructure, provides the equipment, employs the providers, drives the innovation, makes sure everything disaster is well prepared for

 

Not likely

 

I worked in medical billing from 1988 to 2016. I’m familiar with Medicare, Medicaid, private insurance, etc. I doubt it's changed much since then.

 

That is laughable. When you get your bill, it always contains a wish list of items billed for regardless of your carrier, private or Medicare. If you think any carrier actually pays that amount, it’s delusional. Medicare doesn’t negotiate, but has a big clientele while they pay much more consistently. If everyone had Medicare, there would be no need for a wish list.

 

Sure, I’m a nuclear physicist.

 

If the only money medical providers received was from Medicare, they'd all close.

 

Clueless.

 

SS and MEDICARE A pay for themselves out of the payroll tax , not income tax....plus they contribute surplus to the general fund. They don’t come from the same pot. They’re self Sufficient by IRS mandate. The military is far and away the biggest user out of the general fund.

 

Wrong. You make stuff up. We have the rest of the free world to prove you wrong Everyone is covered by single payer in other free countries and people live longer AND PAY LESS PER PERSON and remain open.

 

Know it all, who doesn’t.

 

We spend more than twice as much on social programs than the military.

I'd love to see a cut of 20% across the board, military included.

 

Let's see on the one hand the left is highly critical of how the government has handled this and blaming it for thousands of deaths and on the other hand they want the government to take over healthcare completely. It is our private sector that is going to save us not government, it's the ingenuity and ability of private companies to manufacture things and develop new things that would take government ten times as long to dig itself out of the bureaucracies and red tape.

Just amazing how duplicitous.

 

And these European welfare states can't keep up and are adopting what the Trump administration is doing

Finland is told its welfare state can't cope with virus fallout

....YTK is expecting “a flood” of more than 100,000 applications through April. That’s double the number it would process during an average year. Even if it triples staff, people would still face a three-month wait for their jobless benefit, YTK said. That exceeds the legal limit of 30 days.

Finns, along with their Nordic neighbors, rely on a generous welfare system to ensure that those who drop off payrolls still get some form of monthly support. When that safety net starts to crack, it risks upending the social model that underpins the high levels of trust in government typical to the Nordics.

The fund, which represents 20 per cent of wage earners in Finland, called on the government to help, and asked that it provide subsidies to companies laying off workers so that they still get paid through the payroll.

In a letter to members, the fund said more than 270,000 members are at risk of losing their jobs. That compares with the 187,000 people who were unemployed in February, according to official statistics.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/finland...state-can-t-cope-with-virus-fallout-1.1416274

 

These claims that we should have socialized medicine all flat lie about the condition or quality of care that people get in those countries right now. They never stand up to any scrutiny but they sure sound flowery on the surface.

 

All socialized system offer is “cheaper” care. But it’s NEVER better from a quality standard. But Leftists see cheap as best or try to compare a country the size of a small US state as if that’s in any way comparable.

 

Because we have to pay profits and poor management of private insurers
What do you mean “ we”. All of social security and Medicare A are from payroll taxes. We pay two to three times more then other countries on prescription drugs alone......thanks to the gop bill that keeps Medicare from negotiating lower prices. The higher cost of health insurance is a direct result of gop Legislation .

Single payer is cheaper. It is in every other country.

 

Cheaper care ? Laughable. MAKE UP YOUR MIND. We have millions that get NO CARE.
People Iive longer in countries with UHC. And it costs less. I thought you conservatives wanted to save money.
We are rapidly every passing other countries now in virus deaths. Our med supplies are being sold overseas by profiteers. The price healthcare system is for profit first.

 

Why are the hospitals near Canada in Boston, Buffalo, Detroit, and Seattle have so many Canadians receiving treatment? I thought the Canadian system was better?

 

There is no one in this country that gets NO CARE....ever. Stop lying. And life style differences and diet that can add another couple years have NOTHING to do with the healthcare system. We have a lot of fat people who choose to be fat and live shorter lives due to choices they make, compounded by gun deaths and auto deaths which doesn’t translate to most other countries. All have zero to do with insurance.

And we’re passing other countries in virus deaths because we have over 300million ducking people Try per capita percentage for an intelligent discussion. And we still dont have any real clue how many people have contracted, healed up or showed no symptoms, which makes the true death even lower. Other countries simply have very little immigration to and from China so they won’t get hit as hard.

Italy, France and UK aren't surviving at any lesser degree. Italy is far worse and it’s all UHC. And we don’t really know how bad China is because they LIE about everything.

Seriously, educate yourself. But I’ve been reading your drivel for a while now. You have zero intention of ever being informed. Don’t know if it’s an act which is typical or real which is sad

 

Simply, I know much more then you about this issue. Science deniers and those who follow a science denial Trump and GOP agenda and are totally uninformed.

The idea that everyone gets healthcare is totally debunked. Emergency care is NOT healthcare. Your faction doesn’t even believe medical experts in the field. You know, the ones who respond and save your asteroid when you dial 911. Now you’re sitting around and waiting for a cure....from where ?

The major medical facilities at the most prestigious universities in the world, the ones your faction hates.

 

Putting money ahead of people is immoral. Doing so falsely is another degree of egregious. The U.S. pays almost twice as much per person for healthcare than France. France has one of the best healthcare systems in the world, easily as good as that of the U.S.
If people simply don't care about others, at least be honest and admit it. It is ridiculous to lie about facts.