COVID is jumping for joy

certainly osha has the authority to mandate protective clothing? hard hats, steel toe boots, safety glasses, n95 dust masks/ respirators?

 

No one working in a restaurants needs n95 "dust masks". So no. The only place that they could possibly do that is hazardous work areas such as working in an asbestos filled building. Also the mandate was mainly about getting the vaccine. A health issue. Not a work place issue.

My god...is there NOTHING that you lefties WON'T spin to try and get around the Constitution?

 

The mandates would absolutely prevent deaths. That vaccinations prevent deaths for the vast majority of those who have taken them is beyond question. But that doesn't make mandates the right thing to do.

 

Or FOX News. CNN and FOX News are essentially the same channel, they just serve different sides of the aisle.

 

the constitution has nothing to do with it. and as for spin, if asbestos did not cause mesothelioma who would need a mask for that? same for those essential workers exposed to coronavirus.

 

Sorry covid doesn't watch TV, apparent doesn't give a damn about masks or vaccines one way or the other and the lie that covid is a disease of the unvaccinated gets thinner and more transparent everyday.

Sorry the flu is not and the vaccine against it is usually less than fifty percent effective. Sorry but one size fits all is a very poor argument in support of vaccine.

 

Actually it does. It has everything to do with it. It only gives Congress the ability to make laws. Congress can give an agency certain powers to make laws, but if they don't then per the Constitution they are the only ones that can make the laws.

Except that asbestos does cause mesothelioma. So your "hypothetical", if one can even call it that, is meaningless.

And again, Covid is a healthcare issue. Not a hazardous job.

Like it or not Congress has to explicitly give OSHA the power to handle healthcare issues. It hasn't. So per the Constitution they (Congress) are the only ones that can handle this healthcare issue.

 

Try persuasion rather than insults. It is much more effective.

 

oh, i will keep that on mind.

but, ya know, that isn't much of an insult.

 

From the dissent.......

The Court does not dispute that the statutory terms just discussed, read in the ordinary way, authorize this Standard. In other words, the majority does not contest that COVID–19 is a “new hazard” and “physically harmful agent”; that it poses a “grave danger” to employees; or that a testing and masking or vaccination policy is “necessary” to prevent those harms. Instead, the majority claims that the Act does not “plainly authorize[]” the Standard because it gives OSHA the power to “set workplace safety standards” and COVID–19 exists both inside and outside the workplace. Ante, at 6. In other words, the Court argues that OSHA cannot keep workplaces safe from COVID–19 because the agency (as it readily acknowledges) has no power to address the disease outside the work setting. But nothing in the Act’s text supports the majority’s limitation on OSHA’s regulatory authority. Of course, the majority
is correct that OSHA is not a roving public health regulator, see ante, at 6–7: It has power only to protect employees from workplace hazards. But as just explained, that is exactly what the Standard does. See supra, at 5–6. And the Act requires nothing more: Contra the majority, it is indifferent to whether a hazard in the workplace is also found elsewhere. The statute generally charges OSHA with “assur[ing] so far as possible . . . safe and healthful working conditions.” 29 U. S. C. §651(b). That provision authorizes regulation to protect employees from all hazards present in the workplace—or, at least, all hazards in part created by conditions there. It does not matter whether those hazards also exist beyond the workplace walls.

OSHA estimated the workplace mandates would save roughly 65,000 lives and 250,000 hospitalizations. When Schlitz and Amy and the other conservative Luddites on the Court lay their heads on their pillows I hope they have sleepless nights knowing they are responsible for unnecessary pain, suffering, and death.

 

Another major problem with the mandates is that they were arbitrary. If a company has 99 workers, they were not subject to the mandates even though their working conditions may have had all their workers in close proximity to each other. Another company with 100 workers was subject to the mandates even though by the nature of their work, they might have been scattered so that there was little chance of spreading the virus.

 

You mean like the cold virus, like the flu virus? Im willing to accept that it reality, and no attempts at lock-downs, mandates, or other authoritarian measures is going to change that.

 

Is prohibiting smoking in indoor public settings an authoritarian measure? Why the need for absurd hyperbole? Never mind, I already know.

 

how about smallpox? the plague? ebola? weaponized anthrax?

 

Depends on who is prohibiting it, and who owns the building. So potentially, yes, absolutely, 100%

Your snide little remarks like this don't affect me Lee. Stick to the topics and defend your positions on their merits. These little snippets just make you look desperate and out of your league.

 

Wow, what a twisted view of the world. I suppose speed limits set by the government are also authoritarian measures designed to take the joy away from driving 80mph down a residential street. Views like yours have no place in civil society.

 

You seem annoyed at being called out for using fatuous hyperbole.

 

Why would "Covid be Jumping for Joy" ? You must be trolling.

Surely by now you are aware that there is no significant difference in Transmission between vaxed and unvaxed ? .. is this a back-handed way to make fun of the Biden-Fauci Clownshow who have been humping the transmission trope since day 1 ?

 

Smallpox technically isn't eradicated. Small pox is caused by the Viola Virus (if I remember correctly), and the vaccine only prevented infection which resulted in the spread of the virus. The plaque was a bacteria, no vaccine in the world addresses bacterial infections. Ebola is not eradicated, and even with vaccine continues to pop up.

The fact is, mother nature is a war zone. It is constantly trying to take back what is hers and eliminate humans from the planet. The hysteria about coronavirus, which has been a pandemic is a infant virus, where most of the ones you listed took decades to simply control. All of the mandates, and ridiculous ideas that if people just worse masks we would all kill the virus is absolute hyperbole that will do far more damage than addressing this virus like we have every one in the past.

 

And... we're done. You didn't even address my first sentence, because all you want to do is come here and yell at people.

Run along Lee. Go find somebody else to play with. You're out of your league.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/01/11/covid-omicron-variant-pfizer-cases/9165512002/

 

Well, you're right about one thing. I prefer to discuss things with folks who don't have bizarre views like smoking prohibitions being authoritarian in nature. That puts you in a league to which few would admit they belong. The bush league.

 

Why would Omicron be jumping for joy over workplace mandate rules ? your link does not answer the question citing some gibberish about increased hospitalization among unvaxed. .. which is a generally false statement .. but even if true .. why would Omicron be happy about this ... as Omicron wants hosts to live.

You are not making any sense .. and senslessly posting links .. without citing anything from that link addressing the question .. is not helping your case.

Why would Omicron be jumping for Joy -- when the workplace rules the Biden Clownshow wished mandated do nothing to prevent transmission in any significant way .. and in fact do the reverse .. giving the "Superspeaders" license to spread.

The gig is up mate .. the Biden-Fauci Lies and false narrative have gone to far .. We have Moron Judges citing these lies .. in our courtrooms .. then being made to look like Fools .. making a Fool out of our Justice system.

 

I think I've identified the problem. You routinely reject the scientific data because it disrupts your erroneous narrative.

 

This is the United States where we have laws that limit government's power so that it doesn't become socialism with a dictator. Besides, the argument is long gone that vaccinations bring on herd immunity, protecting people. The Delta variant, and particularly the Omicron variant, don't care whether you are vaccinated or not. It infects you and you spread it to others. Vaccinations only limit the severity of the disease, and has nothing to do with the spread of the disease and in a free country people should have the right to make decisions regarding their own health. As I said, the proof shows that with these new variants, the unvaccinated are no more threat to others than the vaccinated are so the myth that the unvaccinated are a threat to others is simply not true.