Crown Prince Salman Hanging Saudi Billionaires By feet

Several errors of fact in the above account from ME Eye. Faisel operated as king for 5-6 years before Saud stepped down. There was no coup.

 

Let me finish it for you:

"Why can't we not be sober?
I am just a worthless liar...
I am just an imbecile...
I will only complicate you...
Trust in me and fall as well
I will find a center in you
I will chew it up and leave
I will work to elevate you...
Just enough to bring you down.
Trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me, trust me!
Why can't we not be sober?"

Aaron Lewis sends his regards...

 

The Qatari broadcaster's connection to Middle East Eye also includes Jamal Bassasso, a former director of planning and human resources at Al Jazeera. Mr Bassasso, a Palestinian born in Kuwait and now living in London, is sole director of MEE Ltd, the company that owns Middle East Eye.Jun 26, 2014

New London connection to Islamists - The National

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/new-london-connection-to-islamists-1.648408

 

I see so you have no problem with the reality that they were reporting terrorism. Whether or not what you said about the other thing is correct or what they said is of course by the by for the time being.

By the way I was fascinated to see earlier that you said this

when that was the very paper you used to try and prove your point of view here.


http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mine-in-decades.518794/page-4#post-1068260528

 

What's with this "on the floor" thing? By the way, Arabs and Bedouins use to sit and sleep on mattresses on the floor.

I don't trust any of the sources for this beating stuff. I don't think that torturing members of his own family, or of rich and influential families in the Kingdom and the Middle East, would ever be an option for the future Saudi king. His own family members would turn against him in a blink of an eye. Tribes, clans and families in the region have very strict rules of conduct. Breaking those rules might get even a future king killed.

Keep in mind that Salman needs influential families and tribes in the Sunni world on his side against Iran and Hezbollah. Alienating them now by needlessly beating members of those families would be extremely stupid.

Salman is not stupid. The brilliant stunt he pulled with the Hariri resignation that wasn't - making it, if not impossible, extremely hard for Hezbollah to assassinate him now - proves that the future king knows what he's doing. Hariri, Salman's ally, is the most popular and the most powerful politician in Lebanon right now. Like it or not, Salman's political skills are undeniable.

I can see the intent, I can't see facts. I just don't know. We'll have to wait for an official statement, a whistleblower, or another Trump blunder.

Info? No, I don't have any info. All I have is a possible answer to questions carefully avoided by the anti-US crowd: how was ISIS able to conquer huge swathes of land in Iraq, and why did the Iraqi army abandon military bases with all the weapons instead of fighting the riffraff that was ISIS at the beginning? Add the Qatari funding to the mix. Same Qatar that is supporting Hezbollah. Weird, huh?

 

Let me get this straight... you tell me I don't have facts...then in the next paragraph you admit... you don't have facts

ok so we have nothing... just two people drawing conclusions

 

We don't have facts, and that's a fact.

I understand why you don't like Saudi Arabia. I don't like them either. But people we don't like are not necessarily the evil incarnated. I can hate and reject an ideology without hating the individuals who adhere to that ideology. I can hate Islamic extremism without hating every Muslim in Saudi Arabia. I can reject tribal customs but have an excellent relationship with my Muslim colleagues who live by those customs.

Yes, life would be easier, and conclusions easily drawn, if humans were simpler beings. But then we wouldn't be quite human, would we?

 

I don't like Saudi Arabia because they chop heads off and support extremist terrorists.. never the less I find myself on their side because they oppose Iran who threatens my country (indirectly).

It doesn't matter who I like or don't like.... what matters is what is best for my country... yeah go team Saudi!

 

Its important to realize where the Saudis come from. In 1950 they were living like it was the time of Christ. Life expectancy was zilch. Most babies died before their second birthday.. smallpox, blindness were normal... Malaria was rampant.

They have come a long way in 70 years and they have struggled for every mile of that progress. They value a peaceful, civil society and they were never a colony.. They don't want war and turmoil..

The Gulf states are not like Iraq, Iran or Syria....

 

You're being ridiculous. Anyone who is capable of committing genocide the way Salman is doing in Yemen for expansionist reasons, and supporting genocidal terrorists in Syria for expansionist reasons, is certainly capable of killing his relatives to retain his position. It was common practice in the Ottoman Empire for the sultan to kill all his brothers to secure his position. I think it was stopped in the 19th century.

The only way Salman's prisoners can escape with their lives, is by not revealing where their money is. Salman knows that as long as that money exists, it can be used to dethrone him. If Salman can force his prisoners to give it all up, then they will end up either being killed in some unfortunate accident, or locked up in Saudi Arabia for life.

Of course there's the other side to this, and that the princes might actually be getting their just reward.

 

Then why did they kill 50 thousand children this year in Yemen, and why were they supporting genocidal terrorists in Syria?

Tell us another one Margot.

 

Expansionist? Now there a screwball fantasy.

They aren't going to dethrone young Salman. The population is young and they want reform and an end to corruption.

 

There is something about your mindset that thinks every country wants more land.. yet you ignore everything else that's going on.

 

If the prisoner is NOT an American citizen then all bets are off -- no Constitutional rights.

 

Strange, I didn't think Soros would be involved with Saudi Arabia, but it seems the tentacles of his color revolutions and their calls to end corruption are everywhere. But you're right, the young can be manipulated easily. We see its affects in Ukraine and Syria.

 

Genocide is always for territorial expansion, and Saudi Arabia is committing genocide in Yemen, and was supporting the genocidal terrorists in Syria.

 

Watch it Jeanette, you are never to post anything about Saudi Arabia painting them in a poor light. It makes Margot2 furious.

 

Reading up on this Saudi Arabia mans former wife, turns out he supported her efforts to give the women much more freedom.

She has been talking to people in the USA.

 

I am not furious.. LOLOL

 

Alwaleed does those kinds of transactions all the time.. Not unusual. Have you followed him?

 

No Margot why on earth would I follow him, the offloading of the 21st Century Fox shares was not business as usual which is why it caught my eye. It placed enormous pressure on Murdoch who only narrowly managed to hold on to his dual class voting share system without Alaweed's support

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-...ince-sells-shares-in-21st-century-fox/9129470

 

LOLOL.. You have Soros on the brain.

 

LOLOL.. You have Soros on the brain.

Well, I have followed him for years and he's a real news junkie.. Fox's star is fading.. Good time to get out.

 

You obviously don't know anything about Arab customs. Killing his relatives will get Salman, if not killed, at least exiled, and a pariah for life. Arabs are not Turks.

The genocidal terrorists in Syria - Assad the butcher of his own people and his army - are supported by Iran and Russia. The other genocidal terrorists - ISIS - are supported by Qatar, Iran's friend and ally. Seems that they also enjoyed for a while the support of Erdogan's Turkey. Although some Saudi sheikhs initially supported ISIS, that support rapidly waned and vanished when it became apparent that ISIS is a threat to the kingdom.

Yemen is a not so different story. It's a hotbed of terrorist organizations. I find it weird that you defend Russia's and Iran's actions in Syria against organizations you call - some rightfully, some not - terrorists, while you deny Saudi Arabia's right to fight against the same terrorists on their doorsteps (al Qaeda and ISIS are active in Yemen).

Please prove your premise that Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen is fought for expansionist reasons. Personally I doubt very, very, very much that any country in the region would be interested to rule over such a poor, troubled and terrorism infested territory.

 

Saudi Arabia doesn't want land in Yemen or Syria and certainly doesn't want to rule their populations. I'm glad you get it. Few on this forum do.