Cummings; classified emails found on personal accounts of Rice & Powell OOPS!

No it didn't and no it wasn't.

 

You have shown over and over how tragically misinformed and wrong you are. To which I say: Keep it up!

 

yes it was, anything sent or received on a gov email account is automatically archived, thus her internal emails to and from a .gov address were archived as well

 

Not nearly as much as you when you find out there is. The FBI has stated it is a law enforcement, a criminal, investigation. Hillary was lying when she said otherwise. And yep I bet she is walking around with a pretty tight anal orifice these days.

 

Yes I know that, you assume both sides of ALL her official conversation were with someone with a .gov address, a false assumption.

 

For ****s sake....Powell had an AOL account to his official business.

A freakin AOL account!

 

no, I made it quite clear what I meant

her personal emails do not count, only the government ones, the prev two SOS did the same....

.

 

If it's true, then they should be prosecuted. But they won't be because they're elites and the elites don't have to follow the law like the rest of us do. Democrats cheer on this elite privilege while they claim to fight for the common man. What a joke.

 

Hillary's going down! The hyperlib Left is trying to deflect attention from it but the FBI has an ACTIVE investigation in progress: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/8/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-probe-confirmed-state-d/

Why the hard focus? Because presidents lie (Obamacare, deal with Karzai to keep U.S. in Afghanistan to 2024), presidents violate Constitutional limits on their power (Obama: Libya, recess-appointments,illegal exchange of terrorist commanders for Bergdahl), and presidents abuse power to suit their whims (Obama: illegal mangling of immigration LAW).

BUT, the FBI cannot ignore flagrant violation of the rules, regulations, policies, and protocols that apply to highly sensitive classified information! The kind of blathering-ass stupidity, recklessness, and malfeasance shown by anybody who violates the very clear instructions regarding classified material cannot be allowed to enter the highest office in the land. I have held two top secret security clearances... I know what I'm talking about.

Violate the rules governing the handling of classified information and the government will gut you, bone you, broil you, and serve your witless ass for dinner!

 

I don't care about her personal emails, I care about the ones that had classified information in them on her private unsecured server where she directed they be sent or she herself sent to ANY AND ALL addresses.

Why don't you?

Again the refuted canard about past SoS. Powell did not cause classified information to be sent to his personal account. He HAD a .gov official email account he used and he had a secure email account for all classified email to be sent in stored because it was a SCI secured system. Clinton DIRECTED classified information be sent to her ONE address, her personal address on her private sever, of which the IT guy who set it up an maintained it has already taken the 5th Amendment.

Why do you stand for and defend what she did and why are you willing to put her into an even higher office where she will do the same?

 

You know....................................

A while back, I heard about this guy named "Sane Centrist" who wrote in many threads regarding this (RIDICULOUS NON EMAIL SCANDAL) how most people in the pentagon, the state department, and many other government officials all do the same things that Hillary did with her emails.

I don't know this guy, but I'd love to meet him.....he sounds like a really intelligent dude.......

I just love it when a plan comes together....

 

Lack of substance and rebutal noted. If you just want to trade insults look elsewhere.

 

classified information would of come from a .gov email address, thus been archived

I think what she did was wrong and if she still worked there I would recommended disciplinary action, but she no longer works there, so non-issue and it's not criminal

there are many in gov using personal email for gov business, they are all in the wrong and we shoudl do a qry on the gov enmail servers to find them

I also blame the team that is responsible for security for not catching this during her or the prev two SOS that were doing it

does security not have the access they need to the governments email servers to check this out?

if Clinton has accidentally uncovered a major security hole, maybe we should thank her

maybe the gov has spent so much time trying to get access to our email and phone records they forgot to even get access to look at themselves

.

 

For chrissakes. Powell had a secure account government account for those items either marked Classified, or which he knew were such. Hillary did not. Hillary deliberately did not.

I left this topic alone for a few days but return to see the Hillary defenders arguing the same misinformation over and over.

When Hillary goes down for this, you folks are going to be fed crow daily here for a year. I suggest you stock up on tooth picks.

 

This is so false. Hundreds of posts into this thread and you still post BS.

What has leaked so far is that Hillary had info transferred from the secure government network to her own private one, where it was not "archived".

She had no secure account like Powell and Rice. None.

If we were talking just a few retroactively Classified documents, as with Powell and Rice, no one would give a crap. But with Hillary's set-up, that was impossible. There could not be just a few legitimate such.

The (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) is going down. Every day new revelations are leaked out. You know why ? Cause there are too many in the FBI who want to insure that justice is done.

It will be.

 

and it just keeps getting better and better

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/09/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-state-department-delays/

The State Department's proposed production schedule would result in all the remaining emails being released the day before "Super Tuesday" and after early contests in New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina.

In the end, the judge ordered the State Department to provide detailed information about why the process is taking so long, and how the State Department temporarily lost track of thousands of pages of emails, leading to the current delay.

He also told the State Department to be ready to produce some subset of emails by February 18, "if not sooner," adding that he'd make that determination after reading their explanation.

When an attorney for the State Department told Contreras it would take over a week for emails that have already completed the inter-agency review process to be posted online, Contreras said, "that seems like an unreasonably long period of time.

and then today

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...ndled-top-secret-intel-on-clinton-server.html



At least a dozen email accounts handled the “top secret” intelligence that was found on Hillary Clinton’s server and recently deemed too damaging for national security to release, a U.S. government official close to the review told Fox News.

The official said the accounts include not only Clinton’s but those of top aides – including Cheryl Mills, Huma Abedin, Jake Sullivan and Philippe Reines – as well as State Department Under Secretary for Management Patrick F. Kennedy and others. There is no public evidence they were authorized to receive the intelligence some of which was beyond Top Secret.

A second source not authorized to speak on the record said the number of accounts involved could be as high as 30 and reflects how the intelligence was broadly shared, replied to, and copied to individuals using the unsecured server.

“My contacts with former colleagues and current active duty personnel involved in sensitive programs reveal a universal feeling that the HRC issue is more serious than the general public realizes,” Dan Maguire, a former strategic planner with Africom, and with 46 years combined service, told Fox. “Most opine they would already be behind bars if they had apparently compromised sensitive information as reported.”

Without access to the actual e-mails, Maguire said it was hard to ascertain what damage might have been done by the disclosure of human spying intelligence and secret material.

“Either way, the intelligence community is undoubtedly conducting damage assessments and evaluating the viability of any ongoing operation that may have been exposed to unauthorized personnel. The vulnerability of HRC’s server to foreign government hacking cannot be overlooked - even the DCI, John Brennan, has been the target of hackers,” he said.

Former U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey told Fox, “It is counterintuitive to suggest that they (Clinton’s aides) all had authorization and access through a non-secure server to information of that sensitivity.”

 

we will just have to agree to disagree

.....

 

Yes. Until the FBI does, or does not, forward a criminal referral. I wish that there were reasonable standards of integrity that mattered before such across the board. But there apparently are not.

 

Yo Paperweight.....did you talk to an attorney? Figure out those filings yet

Also did you get that Ring ready for the Diss that you can't handle. Remember, you wanted to up your game to disrespect. Now lets see you back that play.

 

You have to remember.....he doesn't know what a legal filing is. But it isn't a surprise. KnowwhatImean.

 

You've been told you were wrong then, and you're still wrong.

Hillary handled the classified information on the classified system, just as Powell did.

 

ICYMI:

<snip>
"...In addition to the classified email system used in SCIFs, there are personal email accounts.

Prior to 2013, these could be accounts inside the relatively unsecure State Department system or private email accounts. If they are private—running through a commercial or personal server—they have to follow some rules set up in the Federal Register. There are no guards, no red-black procedures, no construction rules, no special rooms, no TEMPEST, no TSCM. And most important:

Until 2013, there was no rule against using them. In fact, the rules specifically allowed for them. Check out the relevant section in the Code of Federal Regulations (36 CFR Chapter XII, Subchapter B, section 1236.22b) for the rules regarding the use of personal email accounts by any State Department official.

To give an idea of how insecure these communications could be, Powell’s personal email is an AOL account, and he used it on a laptop when he communicated with foreign officials and ambassadors, unless the information qualified for a SCIF. ...

So did Powell and the aides to Rice violate rules governing classified information, since the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) staff has recently determined that some of their years-old personal emails contain top-secret material? No. The rules...."

Rest at link:

http://www.newsweek.com/colin-powell-emails-hillary-clinton

 

If that were the case the FBI would not still be investigating her.

 

More from that article that gets to the heart of the system used for classified information:

"Start with this: Powell and Rice, like all modern secretaries of state, each had at least two email accounts&#8212;one personal and the other for communications designated as highly classified at the time of their creation.

For classified information, both of them&#8212;and their aides with appropriate clearance&#8212;had a sensitive compartmented information facility, or what is known in intelligence circles as a SCIF.

Most senior officials who deal with classified information have a SCIF in their offices and their homes.

These are not just extra offices with a special lock. Each SCIF is constructed following complex rules imposed by the intelligence and defense communities. Restrictions imposed on the builders are designed to ensure that no unauthorized personnel can get into the room, and the SCIF cannot be accessed by hacking or electronic eavesdropping.

A group called the technical surveillance countermeasures team (TSCM) investigates the area or activity to check that all communications are protected from outside surveillance and cannot be intercepted.


Most permanent SCIFs have physical and technical security, called TEMPEST. The facility is guarded and in operation 24 hours a day, seven days a week; any official on the SCIF staff must have the highest security clearance.

There is supposed to be sufficient personnel continuously present to observe the primary, secondary and emergency exit doors of the SCIF. Each SCIF must apply fundamental red-black separation to prevent the inadvertent transmission of classified data over telephone lines, power lines or signal lines.


I could keep going for thousands and thousands of words explaining the security measures used for SCIFs. And all of this&#8212;all of this&#8212;is designed to protect the confidentiality of emails and communications determined to be classified at the time of transmission..."

http://www.newsweek.com/colin-powell-emails-hillary-clinton

- - - Updated - - -

Starting in early on the loco I see, brown font.

 

Except that it wasn't when sent. Took six years which smacks of sillness.