Dealing with the illogical perceptions of White America

Its called inflation - in 1960 the price of a house was 12,700 - a loaf of bread was 20 cents, Gerbers baby food was 25 cents for 3, a Hershy bar was 5 cents and a gallon of gas was 25 cents.

https://activerain.com/blogsview/1675884/how-much-stuff-cost-in-1960

 

What do these have to do with keeping one's money in a mattress ? What does military spending have to do with evil people that want to steal ? Police are the ones that deal with this - not military - and no where was it stated or inferred that we have no military - why are you being obtuse and pretending otherwise.

You said that "the more we spend on welfare - the less we have to spend on other things"

The more we spend on military the less we have to spend on other things - is a simple truth. We do not need a 1 Trillion dollar total military annual spend to defend the homeland.

 

How so? because it isn't attached in any way shape or form to productivity nor are government wages. The definition of inflation is more money chasing the same number of goods and services. That being the case Welfare and government paychecks for that matter are inherently inflationary. Hence a loaf of Bread that could be had for ten cents at the day old store in 1964, now costs a buck sixty for the store brand, and the day old shop is gone. Growing levels of automation in most lines of work have helped to reduce that inflationary spiral by making more things cheaper, but we are coming to the end of that road agriculturally at the very least.

 

But then again Bush and his economist warned of the problem as soon as he took office, congress and senate are task with regulation, of which either made a effort to change!

 

Evil people that don't live in your country are kept at bay by the military. If the rich do not keep their money in a mattress then it will be at the very least available to be loan out by the local bank even better he spends it to fund the next big idea, which in turn creates weath for himself, the guy whose idea he funded, and the workers that guy hires. If the government takes it it goes into essentially inflationary pursuits, less so in the case of the military than in the case of say the EPA or most of the rest of the regulatory bureaucracy.

 

It's called incentivizing, as long as people are compensated they do not demand better.. That's how Gubment keeps their base quiet and voting as incentivized to do!

 

Now we are switching topics but - I completely agree. Gov't wages are way out of line. What irritates me are Gov't unions. What is the purpose of these ? If the Gov't can not be relied on to be fair to its employees then we have lost the game. Gov't unions should be abolished. There should be a dispute mechanism that Gov't workers can turn to - run by those who are elected.

This however has nothing to do with welfare and the fact that the reason the poverty line has moved is because prices have moved.

One could argue that the poverty line should be higher given that core CPI no longer includes energy and food.

 

You are completely ignoring the content of my posts. The question is not whether or not we have a military but, whether or not current spending levels are required to keep the bad guys out.

Where is this large army massing at our borders that justifies a 1 Trillion dollar annual spend ? What did attacking Libya or Iraq have to do with defending the homeland or worse ... supporting the Saudi's in Yemen or arming and supporting Syria and ISIS in Syria.

Not less so in the case of the military ? Military is Gov't. A dollar spent in the US economy by military personnel or their families has exactly the same impact as a dollar spent by any other Gov't worker.

 

Giving people a few dollars for food stamps does not stop them from demanding better. I would agree that other incentives do this but not so much with food stamps. Food stamps incentivice people not to revolt or steal.

It is complete and utter historical and sociological ignorance to not realize that if you do not keep the poor fed - chaos will result.

The establishment does not feed the poor because of some good nature or high morals. The poor are fed so we do not have chaos.

 

Fact
Most modern feminists are just man hating buffoons

Fact
Because of this, most women today dont identify themselves as feminists

Fact
Most women were against voting rights because it entailed other duties that they didn't want to preform

Feminism was once about equality among sexes. But not anymore. They are now a man hating club. They constantly go on about toxic masculinity. They talk about patriarchy existing places like Britain, where a female holds the highest office, and where females are the majority. They use this made up patriarchy to blame all of their shortcomings on.

 

Who told you that? Sean? Rush?

Proof please.

 

Another of our conservative friends demonstrates he has no clue of the difference between fact and opinion.

 

Another of our leftist friends demonstrates that he has no clue of the difference between fact and opinion, and how utterly ignorant he is

Which stated fact was an opinion?

Was the fact that most women don't identify as feminists an opinion?





Only 18 percent of Americans consider themselves feminists-Vox

Poll: Few Identify As Feminists, But Most Believe In Equality Of Sexes-Huffpost

Was women being against voting rights an opinion too?

Why Women Do Not Wish the Suffrage
"IN 1895 the women of Massachusetts were asked by the state whether they wished the suffrage. Of the 575,000 voting women in the state, only 22,204 cared for it enough to deposit in a ballot box an affirmative answer to this question. That is, in round numbers, less than four per cent wished to vote; about ninety-six per cent were opposed to woman suffrage or indifferent to it."

6 Feminist Myths That Will Not Die

 

Opinion:

Most modern feminists are just man hating buffoons

Because of this, most women today don't identify themselves as feminists

Most women were against voting rights because it entailed other duties that they didn't want to preform

Feminism was once about equality among sexes. But not anymore. They are now a man hating club. They constantly go on about toxic masculinity. They talk about patriarchy existing places like Britain, where a female holds the highest office, and where females are the majority. They use this made up patriarchy to blame all of their shortcomings on.

Your data does not demonstrate that most women today dont identify themselves as feminists because "Most modern feminists are just man hating buffoons" which is an opinion.

No, it was just misleading and out of context. Maybe at one point and in some places according to some polls most women were against voting rights for women, but it was certainly not true for all place all of the time.

1) You data is based upon an unproven assumption that women were against suffrage if they did not vote.

2) You data does not demonstrate that the reason women did not vote was "because it entailed other duties that they didn't want to preform"

Thanks for proving my point.

 

History is not on your side here

 

So instead of disputing fact, you chose to dispute cause and effect. Nice

 

Thanks for proving my point.

No, it was both. But certainly the causal elements of your statements were opinion, not fact, as you wrongly claimed.

 

The war on business also doesn't help. When you raise taxes so that you have the highest business tax in the whole industrial world and then compound that with record regulations, all you do is drive business away and then wind up what we had with Obama's policies, 90% service and part times jobs. Many of those jobs that could not support a living wage, much less a family. All that did was make the rich richer and the rest of us poorer.

 

You are being myopic - food stamps are not a big contributor and for many it is zero other than more hardship.

What is a historical "imperative" is that not feeding the poor leads to very nasty things.

 

Agreed ... business in the US and in particular those that manufacture in the US are taxed while large corporations are allowed to game the tax system by manufacturing outside the US and paying little taxes on products sold within the US.

A NIKE shoe costing 3 bucks to make in some slave labor nation is sold here for 120 dollars. Cost of sales is 20 dollars so taxable profit is 97 dollars right ? Wrong. The shoe is first sold to a NIKE shell corp in the Cayman Islands .. that shell then sells that shoe for 90 dollar for the US affiliate reducing the on paper profit to 10 dollars.

A manufacturer in the US making a shoe which costs 20 dollars to make .. same 20 dollars cost of sales .. pays taxes on 80 dollars. This is a disincentive to make products in the US. Even with a higher cost of manufacturing the company pays way more tax.

Then you have other nefarious activities by large monopolies/oligopolies - anti competitive practices, price fixing and so on.

Regulations, as you correctly point out, are obscene. I worked in environmental clean- up for over a decade .. our regs are absurd and serve to put money into the pockets of lawyers and insurance companies and keep the little guy from competing.

 

There s no glass ceiling for the poor unless they create it for themselves

Bad personal choices are the prime cause of poverty for native born Americans

There is a problem of immigrants and illegal aliens flooding the job market and driving wages down for American workers

But that affects people with little or no education the mst

 

Bad personal choices?

So if you're poor you're stupid?

Guess what? Bad personal choices don't have anywhere near the same effect on the upper middle class (and virtually none on the rich) as the poor.

Lots more "wiggle room" when you're well off.

 

History would be a trillion spent on poverty and poverty is bigger and stronger than ever Left give job and independence a chance by reducing the freebies to the point they must be subsidies by working and then slowly reduced until the democratic titty milk is replaced with hard work and sweat!

 

If you dont dont have children outside wedlock and drop out of high school, the chances of you being in perpetual poverty is slim. Unless you are ready bad with money

 

If your poor, yes you probably made poor choices in your life. Got pregnant and didn't finish school. Finished school and decided not to take your education farther. Got yourself in trouble with the law, or got on drugs. Spent your money crazy buying everything you want and not what you need. Not saving for retirement or for a rainy day. I have seen many of these things in my own family and seen the outcome of it. Not because I didn't tell them, but they didn't listen and it's cost me a whole lot of money.