Death total surpasses 2020

It's almost as if you are agreeing with me without meaning to agree with me.

 

Just adding more information to what you already had.

 

The entire point of this thread is to highlight as to how even your most woke, pro vaccinated...authoritarian president can't stop Covid...so the entire logic that Trump handled it poorly and that caused a large amount of avoidable deaths is hyperbolic nonsense. As is most of the left wing bullshit narratives on the man.

Now. based on the numbers. The covid **** can go right beside the Russian gate nonsense.

 

Why did you start drawing arbitrary lines in the sand? Now I want to know the numbers for October and November - you know, when it was low in Florida, but high in New York. All states started in March of 2020 with the lockdown “to flatten the curve”. Some states quickly reopened, while others remained shut down or masked up to this day. If these strategies were really effective, the accumulated difference would have been huge by now - we would probably see Florida and Texas way at the top, and NY, along with other democratic fascist loving states, at the very bottom. Anyone who is capable of observing this major discrepancy and not questioning everything they are been fed via progressive mass media about the virus and the vaccine is just a naive fool. We are either observing the effect of virtue signaling (where progressive governors are trying to outcompete each other with restrictions that disturb all of their citizens lives just to show them they are doing something regardless of the outcome) going so strong that it is starting to rip this country apart, or there is some authoritarian force usurping power in the United States and gaslighting citizens with mass hysteria over a virus with fatality rate under 0.5% for any healthy individual under the age of 65, especially at the time when monoclonal antibodies, the real and legitimate treatment, is widely available.

 

Zero immunity last year had less deaths than a year with waning immunity and boosters?

 

Yes, Delta variant killed scores of unvaccinated people, and that should be a warning sign, but apparently to some people its a reason to not get the vaccine. Its ok to not get it. This is how the nature operates when it needs to thin the herds. Spanish Flu had four waves, and we have had several with Covid, and looks like a new one brewing in colder States and over 100 million Americans are still unvaccinated.

Awwww......it was designed to be another "don't hurt my Trump" thread.

Florida and Texas were at the top during Delta, and others were not even close. Right now there are no lockdowns in place, since Covid has been quiet since the last wave. As for the 1st wave, we were shut down here in Florida, as was Texas, so they were "fascist" too. Maybe its you who is not observing the events correctly.

 

Maybe you should read what I was replying to for context. My point is that all states started with a lockdown in March of 2020. After the first 2 weeks, some states chose different strategies, and if these strategies were drastically effective, we would have seen some huge differences in deaths per 100k per state.
We are not seeing these differences, which hints at ineffectiveness of mask mandates and lockdowns.

Also, I hope that you do realize that we are done with delta in Florida. We have one of the lowest positivity rates in this country, while many other states didn’t even hit the peak yet, which means that their number will grow faster than ours.

 

If you say so. As a resident of Florida I can say we did not choose differently about lock downs and masks. We were locked down hard for months (until September) and masks were required in pretty much every business until well into this year. I know Texas was pretty strict with State imposed lockdowns too. When Delta hit, Florida did nothing about it, and was clocking 30% of all infections in the nation, so as far as Florida is concerned, the events show the opposite of what you are trying to argue. Now 60K+ Floridians are dead, which is nearly as much as in California which has a population twice as high as Florida. Texas is neck to neck with deaths with CA, and CA has 11 million more people.

All States are done with it. Where have you been hiding?

 

In Illinois masks are mandatory to this day. In New York you can’t enter a restaurant without showing your vaccination status.

Far from all states. Look at Minnesota, Illinois, New York for a good example.

 

Joe had a plan, right?

Is this part of the plan?

 

Waning immunity is a crock. The "waning immunity" is merely the fact that as time goes on more and more cases are of the Delta variant. There never was any waning immunity in the first place. The vaccines do absolutely nothing to stop the spread of the Delta variant. As Delta cases increased, the so called waning immunity increased. Breakthrough cases were indeed rare with the original variants but are extremely common with the Delta variant.

 

No, they were not extremely common with Delta.

Northern and Central Europe is seeing more cases again, and emergency rooms are filling with unvaccinated people.

They are imposing lockdowns and some countries are seeing rioting as a result.

US is opting to not lock down. At this point if unvaccinated get sick and die, it is their own choice

White House says U.S. will not lock down to fight Covid as European nations implement restrictions
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/22/whi...-european-nations-implement-restrictions.html

• “We can curb the spread of the virus without having to in any way shut down our economy,” White House coronavirus response coordinator Jeff Zients said.
• “We have 82% of people now with one shot and more and more people getting vaccinated each week,” Zients said.
• Austria’s lockdown began Monday and will last for at most 20 days, with a nationwide vaccine mandate taking effect Feb. 1. The Netherlands’ launched a partial lockdown on Saturday as well.

 

We've now got more deaths under Biden than we had under Trump. Under Trump the virus really was novel and we were learning from day one, no vaccines available. Now, under Biden, vaccines are available and knowledge has increased exponentially and yet Biden has racked up more deaths than we had under Trump.

There has been much evidence that the vaccines do nothing to protect you from getting and spreading the Delta variant. Even the CDC now admits this. Delta is spreading because the vaccinated are spreading it. Until the left finally admit that the vaccinated spread the virus just as much as the unvaccinated do, cases will continue to climb.

 

Why should we lock down if we have legitimate treatment - monoclonal antibodies?

 

Some might argue its because Covid has killed 770 000 Americans, but at this point the vaccine has been made available to everyone and some have opted out, so they have made their own choice. Some European countries have opted for lockdowns, and other are opting against them. Their country, their choice.

 

Because it's saving lives! Except it's not saving lives and people are killing themselves due to being depressed and accidently/purposeful overdosing on drugs as a means to get by in this new shitty norm.

How fun.

 

How it is a new norm when the choice was to not lock down?

 

Biden is in the perfect position to lift all mandates and lockdowns and reap the rewards of recovery. But the ****ing idiot has villified hero's and treating non vacced as second rate citizens in a futile attempt to save lives.

He needs to stop being a dipshit authoritarian and get the country back to norm. But instead hes done everything wrong and saved nothing.

 

Mandates bud. Mandates

 

So, people are killing themselves due to being depressed and accidently/purposeful overdosing on drugs because.........employers ask them to get vaccinated.

Even you can do better than that. Besides, you did say lockdowns, even though there are no federal lockdowns.

 

That was on a county by county basis.. Citrus and Marion were worlds different when it came to masking for example.

 

Yes, more populated areas were more strict for the obvious reasons.

 

So the Trump supporters have nothing better to do but slather more lipstick on the pig that was Dirty Donnie.
Continue to carry the Big Lie for him and continue to create more Lies to burnish his infected legacy.

No problem, more grist for the next election cycle. Such transparent lies will serve up every democratic candidate with lots of great material.

 

It pretty much debunks your claim about Florida as a whole though..

 

I just said Florida, not "Florida as whole". Some more rural areas didn't bother, and I think that is just common sense.