Defund Planned Parenthood.

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  1. MAGA

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    Harder road? That's rich... You think the mother had a harder road? What about her kid?

    Some parents are unfit to be parents. Good parents love their children and would never kill them.

    What do you think about a "parenting test" for girls under 12. If they can't prove to be good parents they're taken out back and their brains are sucked out of their skulls.
     
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    That is absurd on it's face.

    Explain how someone that doesn't have sex gets pregnant.....
     
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    Do you think women make the decision to abort lightly? Do you think so little of women?

    And you are the one suggesting medieval torture not I

    Though some of my suspicions about the foundation of your objections have just been ratified

    You are thinking all abortions are "partial birth" abortions aren't you?

    Are you aware that the overwhelming number of abortions are less than 12 weeks with the majority of those only 8 weeks? In fact with the advent of the "medical" abortion that 6-8 weeks is more and more common?
     
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    Did not read all my post did you?

    Well here is some more validation for what I stated

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uk...ce-in-cutting-teen-pregnancies-is-a-myth.html
     
  5. MAGA

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    Posting a copy of something from a website doesn't stop it from being a meaningless post.

    Try thinking for yourself and tell me how a woman gets pregnant when she and the man are both practicing abstinence?

    Fact: Abstinence works 100% of the times it's tried...
     
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    Abstinence fails repeatedly
     
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    It has a high failure rate because it is not maintained. You can lecture people all you want about "not doing something" and people will continue to be people. Humans have a very very high reproductive drive that is coupled with pleasure reward from sex.

    How do you propose to enforce abstinence?

    After all the Catholic Church has been trying that one for centuries with the only real outcome that the priests were diddling around with kids
     
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    No. Abstinence has a ZERO failure rate.

    I shouldn't have to explain this to you, but.. People that are not abstaining are not practicing abstinence...

    Humans do have a high sex drive. Humans that don't have mental problems also have the ability to abstain from sex. Would you be satisfied with a rapist's "my sex drive made me do it" defense. Of course not..

    How would I enforce abstinence? I wouldn't . That's a ridiculous question.....

    How would you enforce abortions to stop unwanted pregnancies?
     
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    Only when practiced consistently and it rarely is - even by priests

    Then how do you expect abstinence to work? Go around telling people to not have sex? Stand on street corners and pray for people not to have sex?

    Many who advocate abstinence really just want to indulge in feelings of moral superiority by proclaiming that it is thier fault - subtext not the mans fault of course but the woman's fault
     
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    Of course not...the neo nazis say the same thing.
     
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    Like locking up immigrant children? Like segregation? Like paying women less? Like denying women right to their own body? Sure as hell wasn’t conservatives fighting for these human rights
     
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    Yep and what happened to the party right after? They became republicans ....so funny. You think it wasn’t liberals who ended segregation ?
     
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    I have the answer....since men can impregnate hundreds of women per year and a woman can only have one child a year...let’s force vasectomies ..lol
     
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    Yes, we ALL should and women deserve the same human rights as everyone else....they should not have the right to their own bodies taken away, a basic right that everyone should have...
     
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    If you believe in Human Rights why do you want to take away a basic human right, the right to their own bodies, from women ?


    That is EXACTLY WHAT SLAVERY IS and you seem to think it's a good idea...


    (and, "auto-correct" ?...NOT...)
     
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    1. Trump is ending the Obama policy of locking up immigrant children.
    2. Segregation was done by Liberal Democrats and ended by Conservative Republicans.
    3. It's not the Conservatives' fault that Hillary and Pocahontas pay women less.
    4. Conservatives are not denying a women the right to their own body.

    Next....
     
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    You don't speak for yourself well enough to speak for me.

    A mother and child are 2 different bodies.
     
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    Uh, why don't you READ the posts that you quote ?

    """"SEVEN BILLION people on this planet - that is how good we are at "not having sex" "

    ("Not having sex " means abstinence)....see how well preaching something as stupid and unnatural as abstinence works?

    It doesn't...why would anyone preach abstinence when it doesn't work? WHY?

    Even those dedicated to abstinence , good old Christian priests can't stop with the sex stuff....
     
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    FoxHastings said:


    If you believe in Human Rights why do you want to take away a basic human right, the right to their own bodies, from women ?


    That is EXACTLY WHAT SLAVERY IS and you seem to think it's a good idea...


    (and, "auto-correct" ?...NOT...)




    Why didn't you address the post of mine you quoted ?

    If you believe in Human Rights why do you want to take away a basic human right, the right to their own bodies, from women ?

    That is EXACTLY WHAT SLAVERY IS and you seem to think it's a good idea...
     
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    Then why can we not remove the "child" from the womb of the woman who does not want it and implant it into a human that does?
     
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    Yes, a mother and CHILD are two different bodies because to be a "child" one has to be born.

    If a fetus is a separate body from the woman it's in then it should be able to be removed, set on a shelf , and grow on it's own. CAN it be?
     
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    Sorry - just found this and it fits PERFECTLY in this thread given the posts along these lines

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    You apparently just can't grasp exactly what abstenence is. Abstinence is NOT having sex. People that choose to have sex are NOT abstaining.

    The fact that some Priests choose not to abstain has nothing to do with the fact that Abstinence is 100% effective and had no side effects.

    Let me try to make it even more simple for you.

    Let's say for arguments sake that condoms have a 98% effective rate. That would only apply if someone actually used the condom, wouldn't it?

    Millions of pregnancies occur when people don't use condoms and aren't abstaining. Your can't blame abstinence any more than you can blame condoms..

    Is that simple enough for you?
     
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    If tax money is given, we are paying.

    Not quite a child yet, but even using your wording, it is 100% legal and your opinion should never be allowed into another persons uterus.
     
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    Thats what Pro-Choice Democrat slavery supporters said.

    Republicans freed the slaves because nobody has the right to own another person.
     

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