Defund Planned Parenthood.

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  1. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Hyde Amendment.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am not a Democrat. The slavery argument has to be one of the weakest. She has every right to decide what happens to her side of her skin. Your opinion can never be allowed past that point.

    Abortion is settled law and is not going to change. Giving you the advantage of assuming we could reverse RVW, how would you resolve:

    Medical tourism
    Abortion drugs
    Black market abortion
    imprisoning women and doctors

    Even if you could solve these issues, what do you propose we do with thousands of unwanted children? We don't have homes for the thousands we have now?

    How many are you willing to adopt?
     
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  3. MAGA

    MAGA Well-Known Member

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    1. You don't have the power to stop me from having an opinion.
    2. Abortion is not settled law. SCOTUS doesn't make laws.
    2a. Democrats had the House, POTUS, and a fillibuster-proof Senate and did not pass a law to make abortion legal.
     
  4. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1. I support your right to voice your opinion 100%
    2. Abortion is currently legal. We can agree on it being wrong, but its none of our business.
    2. Abortion is 100% legal.

    For the sake of discussion, lets make it illegal. How would you address the issues I listed?
     
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    Abstaining works.

    Preaching abstaining doesn't.....and I have the entire history of the world and it's 7 BILLION inhabitants as proof :)
     
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    Except if they're pregnant women ???????

    Then they can be "owned" like slaves??? Forced to gestate for their "owners" ???
     
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    Republicans had power and never overturned RvW :) Never made abortion illegal. :)
     
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    Im always amazed at the connection between cruelty and the religious right.
     
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    Good thing that doesnt happen at PP then isnt it? Its a good thing that is illegal isnt it?
     
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    Please source a credible source for this statistic. I believe you are either mis informed, or telling a bald faced lie.
     
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    The federal govt provides 37% of PP revenue. If you are totally naive, you can claim that money does not go directly to pay for abortions, but then you would be showing you have no understanding of fungibility.

    PP exists for abortion, its claims to be a general provider of health care have been shown to be false, they dont even have the facilities to provide general health care for women.

    Some states pay directly for abortions.

    In the past, abortions for military or overseas government personnel were paid for by the government.
     
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    1. Thank you. Back at you.
    2. It is my business. Injustice and human rights is every American's business.
    2. Yes, it is.
     
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    Like all those religious people pulling babies apart limb drive limb?
     
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    What?
     
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    Yes, "" human rights is every American's business."""

    That's why I fight against women having their rights taken away by those who want to ban abortion.
     
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    Yes follow TEXAS lead and wind up with maternal mortality rates higher than most third world countries!!!
     
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    Would you support laws banning unnecessary abortion?
     
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    What's an "unnecessary abortion" ?
     
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    The point is - how long do people maintain abstinence?

    You are also missing the fact that a significant number of women having abortions are in a stable relationship
     
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    One where her life is not in danger.
     
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    They're all necessary to the women who want them, the only ones who matter.
     
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    There's a big difference between killing a 5 year old child who's already a highly developed functional individual, and terminating a 1-5 month old fetus that's still incapable of sustaining its own life outside the womb. Regarding an non-viable fetus as equivalent to a born child is like regarding an engineering drawing of an engine as equal to a fully installed motor in a car. It's nonsense.
     
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    I was asking him if he would support laws banning unnecessary abortion because I know that exceptions are made in cases of rape, incest, or when her live is in danger. He hasn't answered yet.
     
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    No, and they never explain how a fetus due to rape is different than a fetus due to consensual sex....good luck getting any coherent answer.
     
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    If I do get an answer, you already know what my next question will be!
     

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