Dem senator warns Supreme Court of 'revolution' if Roe v. Wade is overturned

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  1. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So .. Texas can legalize slavery ? that might help our immigrant crisis .. start welcoming them instead of turning them away.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's make it easy Alek.... In any of the countries now employing Communism, could our Bill of Rights be compatible?? I know the argument with the left is this....."Only the right people haven't implemented it yet and we are the "right people"!
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You see bigotry, and seek to promote it. People generally get along if left to themselves but they are easily led away by people who tell them they are better than everybody else and that all their problems are caused by others

    Authoritarian regimes purposely divide people and then use the divisiveness to cause the fear they rule by. That's what Republicans are doing now.
     
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    It COULD in any of them IF they had our Constitution and abided by it. The Bill of Rights means nothing if the government won't practice it,

    I don't know of any countries now employing the old Marxist-Leninist style of Marxism which came to be called communism. Russia in the late 20's was such a regime that might have given the Bill of Rights a go but they never tried it.

    One that might employ it successfully is Vietnam, but they are not communist or even socialist any more
     
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    They can do that too, and often do, but in the meantime the Congress can pass laws protecting them
     
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    Certainly, although subsequent amendments deny that power to the states.
     
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    The 10th Amendment says they can't.
     
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    Ten thousand years of global tribal warfare casts doubt on your assertion.
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but Communism seems to be a utopian idea that before being implemented, it takes a "statist" enforcement of such. Violence and cultural cleansing, history revision and such always seem to take place. Communist China is a great example AND they call it "Communism" . I don't believe "Utopian Communism" has ever, or will ever exist. It defies all of human nature. We define Communism in the "contemporary."
     
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    I do not honestly see how you can say that. Individual liberty is best defined by Republicanism. Mob rule is the hope of the Democrat Party. Eliminating the Electoral college would be just one indication of that. Vaccination and mask mandates would by one other. I also would assert that allowing citizens to keep more of their hard earned money to spend as they see fit is more of a Republican virtue. I'll point to "obamacare" and this recently promoted partisan expenditure to the tune of $1.75 trillion (actually between 4 & 6 trillion). Two of the largest partisan programs ever , and promoted by Democrats!
    As for dividing the people......the division started with Barrack Hussein Obama. The formulation of BLM and Antifa. The movement to defund the police. The rise in crime in Democrat controlled areas. Could go on and on! Race baiting, CRT it's all a Democrat affiliated production!
     
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    To bad .. as legalizing slavery would be a great way for texas to deal with illegal immigration..
     
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    No, large corporations already do that without calling it slavery by making jobs available to illegals. The great fiasco is, why is it allowed?
     
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    Interesting comment .. and good question :)
     
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    Democrats think they scare people, but they don’t. They kick, scream and burn their own cities down while the rest of us hundreds of miles away are eating a bowl of popcorn watching it for entertainment. They’re not armed, they can’t fight… they intimidate nobody.
     
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    I think Aleksander is trolling us, to be honest.
     
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    No it doesn't. If you're correct about people we'd have no nations or civilization at all but we are not still living in small bands of hunters are we?
     
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    No, you're all trolling everybody, just like authoritarians have done for the last 300,000 years, Only about 10,000 years ago we managed to see through you. Mind you it was a foggy perception, not clear at best and often not there at all but usable if you squinted
     
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    Even if the SCOTUS overturns Roe the Congress can'r make a law saying abortions are a fundamental right? Are you saying Congress can't pass laws or what?

    The 10th Amendments says : "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    The Congress speaks for the people, does it not?
     
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    Anyone who thinks the 10th Amendment means "Texas can legalize slavery ?" seems to indicate to me that it's pointless to have a discussion with you that even touches on constitutional and legal issues.
     
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    Agreed .. So why do you think the 10th Amendment means Texas can legalize slavery.
     
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    In short, no, they cannot. Not laws like that. Congress has specifically delineated powers in the constitution, such as the power to regulate commerce. The Supreme Court has on many occasions struck down laws because they exceed the power of Congress
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    You need to learn about federalism. It's a real thing.

    https://www.everycrsreport.com/reports/R45323.html

    Of course, if more dim bulbs like AOC are elected to Congress, god knows what they might come up with and decide to consecrate by law, but fundamental rights with national scope, like the right to trial by jury and the right to free exercise of religion that the States must respect, are established by Constitutional provision or amendment, not some ill-conceived spasm of a majority of ignoramuses in Congress.

    Nor can they say something like "poor people have a fundamental right to smash and grab because inequality is unfair."
     
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    So it would require a Constitutional Amendment

    That would happen in short order, and the Republican Party would be nonexistent by then.
     
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    I tend to disagree with that. If Congress passed a law that essentially codified Roe v Wade into law, it's very possible the courts would uphold it. The courts been very persistent in coming up with novel ways to justify expansion of federal power so I think abortion would be much safer as a law than as a court decision. In fact, I've been puzzled as to why Democrats have never done that before.
     
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    What would such a law say?
     
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    Basically the RvW solution: Grant states varied ability to regulate abortion depending on the trimester.
     

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