Democrats Challenge President Trump’s Military Authority, Following Soleimani’s Assassination

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  1. Bluesguy

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    "President Trump’s order to take out Qasem Soleimani was morally, constitutionally and strategically correct. It deserves more bipartisan support than the begrudging or negative reactions it has received thus far from my fellow Democrats.

    The president’s decision was bold and unconventional. It’s understandable that the political class should have questions about it. But it isn’t understandable that all the questions are being raised by Democrats and all the praise is coming from Republicans. That divided response suggests the partisanship that has infected and disabled so much of U.S. domestic policy now also determines our elected leaders’ responses to major foreign-policy events and national-security issues, even the killing of a man responsible for murdering hundreds of Americans and planning to kill thousands more."
    That's from Joe Lieberman.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-democrats-and-iran-11578262553?mod=opinion_major_pos5
     
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    Your name is Panetta?
     
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    Because nothing says Christian morals like assassination..The move was correct but leave the moral BS out of it.
     
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    The whole administration or just Oblama himself?

    The Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015 (INARA) (H.R. 1191, Pub. L 114–17) is a bill that was passed by the US Congress in May 2015, giving Congress the right to review any agreement reached in the P5+1 talks with Iran aiming to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.
     
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    You suddenly espouse Christian morals your misinterpretation notwithstanding?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why are you trying to deny Obama one of his crown achievements? :frustrated:
     
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    Huh? You have no idea what i am speaking about do you?
     
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    I never have yet it is not any president's administration that are able to sign or pass by votes a resolution into a law that has to be confirmed by Congress...Now let's play more word salad games that you screw up...
     
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    I never did ask to speak to Panetta that was you escape clause from being a lax poster.
     
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    I can and do espouse Christian morals just like people espouse them to prove what a great human they are and thus a justification to hold certain govt. positions...
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    And how do they apply here exactly vis-a-vis our national security and a country engaged in war against us?
     
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    Don't worry I am sure that the sacrosanct president is in constant contact with his God for good advice.
     
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    So you dont want to discuss the topic you want to bait me.. Ok.. Have at it.
     
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    Normally if one makes an assertion one needs to back up the assertion with proof or supported documentation that is how debate works.
     
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    You can start here.



    Let me guess though you have no interest in Congressional testimony.
     
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    https://aclj.org/national-security/...5qsDPo_eXpaeSyD0sR1rYNTo-KUl_e0y0lYUw2tQ2eWW8

    • According to Secretary of State Pompeo, he was not killed because of his past deeds, but because the U.S. became aware of planned attacks by Soleimani on U.S. personnel and others. The attacks were imminent.
    • Because of this, President Trump was not required to notify Congress in advance. Under his Article Two powers in the U.S. Constitution, and in accordance with the War Powers Act, the president can take military action if a threat against the United States in imminent.
     
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    We're discussing your assertion of Christian morals not Trump


    And how do they apply here exactly vis-a-vis our national security and a country engaged in war against us?
     
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    Learn to turn the other cheek.
     
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    Wow, amazing you think someone behind our embassy getting torched (US territory, I believe), the deaths of 600+ troops in Iraq and the maiming of thousands more, and who is planning imminent threats against us is off limits. The LW have always been the appeasers.
     
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    That refers to personal interactions, Jesus never told the government to do anything, but did say they were placed there by God to maintain order. Should cops turn the other cheek instead of going after bad guys? Maybe the LW should turn the other cheek against their long list of imaginary Trump offenses.
     
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    So now Republicans are okay with US intelligence agencies? What a fast about face.
     
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    When you see a "leftist" be sure to tell them that I have no idea what yer fascination is with pigeonholing and since when did cops become the government?
     
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    When they're not lying to the FISA court and altering exculpatory evidence during their Deep State coup attempt, yes. Brennan, Comey, Clapper and the other bad actors are gone.
     
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    Cops aren't public employees? Private maybe?
     
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