DeSantis Clears up Media ‘Confusion’ on School Curriculum: ‘No CRT, Sexualized Content, Transgender

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  1. FreshAir

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    yeah, Christian infighting put a stop to that, some Christians did not want other Christians teaching their children about Chrsitanity
     
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    Don't know about the above holding water.
    Ultimately, it was the SC who ruled on the constitution and school prayer.
     
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    I do think the right needs to stop saying "CRT" as a bogeyman and instead address and call out the woke garbage actually being pushed on kids when and where it actually is. The former loses sensible centrists and the latter brings them on side.
     
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    because Christians pushed that separation of church and state meant the government could not fund religious teachings in schools, give up the funds and can teach it... preach it.... schools wanted the funds
     
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    yet, the cases still keep popping up of schools trying and having to be stamped out as your link mentioned

    and with the new evangelical SC, no telling what well happen next time

    https://www.freedomforuminstitute.o...hool-student-expression/pledge-of-allegiance/

    "Several state legislatures have either considered or passed laws requiring the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance. For example, Colorado passed a law in 2002 that required all public school students to recite the pledge unless they had a religious objection or had obtained parental permission to abstain from the oath. After Colorado’s American Civil Liberties Union chapter challenged the law in federal court, the Legislature in March 2004 enacted a revised statute to allow students to opt out of the pledge."
     
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    So as long as it only takes a few minutes you are ok with indoctrination?

    Is that your position?
     
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    Are you okay with schoolroom climate change indoctrination?

    Schoolroom Climate Change Indoctrination - WSJ

    If you are, you should have no problem with kids saying the pledge of allegiance.
     
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    I think facts should be taught with as less bias as possible from the teacher.
     
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    Agreed. Kids should be taught to be critical thinkers. Unfortunately, public education has a liberal bias.
     
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    It is indeed. Strongly so.
     
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    There are far more authoritarian societies than ours in the WEST including Canada and AU. And any authoritarianism has been coming from the Left anyway.

    If saying the pledge is insulting to you than living here is also insulting. You’re free to leave if it’s so horrible here, correct?
     
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    Good. Then teachers telling 5 year olds they’re whatever gender they think they are, are lying. A girl can no more be a boy than she could be an Elephant or frog. And purposely speaking to kids about such matters behind a parents back is VERY wrong.
     
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    so are you ok with your children taking a minute every day to say "Under No God we Trust", "one nation, under no God", ect....
     
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    As per the definition, gender is a construct while sex is based on biology. I don’t think teachers should be telling 5 year olds they are anything however — besides a 5 year old.
     
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    which country hasn't had slaves? Which race hasn't been a slave throughout history. You see the world was a pretty shitty place and America is the bright spot for human rights. Anyone who denies that is lying to themselves. Pledge of Allegiance is something all those who died so you can mock it.
     
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    Ah yes, “you don’t march in lockstep with my agenda so you hate America”


    Such kindergarten logic belongs on bumperstickers

    I don’t hate America — I hate what you people believe is America. Do you believe other nations force children to pledge allegiance to the flag? Some of you need to get out of the country for the first time in your life.
     
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    LOL said no one ever that says the American pledge of allegiance.
     
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    School in and of itself is indoctrination. What is wrong with giving the nation that supports them a tip o' the hat? Ever since some idiot came up with hyphenated name's of origin of a country most had never been to only states in effect "But I'm not completely American, so don't count on me all the time".
     
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    What is this "woke ideology"? Can you state it clearly?
     
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    Glad to see you admit it.
     
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    If the country is truly great then children will not need to be made to affirm loyalty to it on a daily basis.

    Sound more like N Korea than a country that screams freedom.
     
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    the old pledge was, then they added under God to it, now it is just religious propaganda - the Original pledge did not include under God, it united all Americans
     
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    Sure. And I don't live there in the first place.

    And you are also free to leave there right if its so horrible, right?

    Why does that "you are free to leave" line get shot out as if it doesn't fire directly back at the speaker with equal force?
     
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    Teaching "anti-racism", by teaching racism. Saying all white people are racist, etc. I think you know what I mean. Authoritarian bigotry, sexism, and racism ironically purporting to be the opposite just because its against a group identity historically known for doing same.

    People duck talking about that sort of thing, which DOES happen, by saying "CRT isn't taught in kids school".... and while technically true, that doesn't address what the people are wrongly calling "CRT".

    Those of us who are liberal and actually against racism, and thus disagree with the Robin DiAngelo's and Ibram Kendi's of the world need to stand up and stop letting conservatives paint the entire left as that.
     
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    It was always an obedience chant. It looks creepy to those of us who didn't grow up in a country that has it.
     
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