Did Obama Surveil Trump? Sure Looks That Way

Nunes has apologized for not playing nice. Schiff will discredit the whole process if he's not kept in the loop.

 

Hot air refutes itself when it's pointed out. The rest of the world knows that the leak was malicious, but you, a **** house lawyer on the interweb, are asking people to prove it wasn't Trump. You were saying something about moving goal posts? Trey Gowdy, and even James Comey know the leak is a felony, but you know better. Come on, dude.

 

lol

 

Obama Officials Who Released General Flynn Transcripts Face Five Years in Prison
~ Rep. Devin Nunes

 

The unmasking of Flynn's name and releasing it to the press is a felony by whoever leaked it. That is what I am saying. There are only select amount of people who would have had access to the raw data, the raw transcript that included Mike Flynn's name. How that highly classified information got leaked and who leaked and how it got the press is a pretty big deal. It's a felony.

How do you know Trump saw the transcript?

 

My point in that post was asking the respondent to refute my post, not just simply snipe from the sidelines and run. It was more about leaks than the FISA though.

We know Flynn was caught in an intercept with the Russian Ambassador and those calls were transcribed. Flynn was an unregistered foreign agent of Turkey. His name was not masked, but it didn't have to be if he was a foreign agent, or if, through a FISA, his name was necessary to the context of the conversation. Gowdy made lots of noise about unmasked names in the committee. Masking only happens with FISAs. So, conclusions have been drawn. You're right, we don't know for sure. However, if we wake up and there is snow on the ground, we can conclude it snowed during the night. Why else would Gowdy ask about unmasked names and protecting the privacy of American citizens?

We know that Comey and Clapper have said there was no FISA for Trump or Trump Tower, and there is no evidence to validate Trump's tweet about being wiretapped. So, there's that.

From what I have read, a FISA warrant was issued on a computer, belonging to Trump, that was talking to two Russian banks, but the computer was actually housed in Philly. However, that is a conclusion drawn from circumstances surrounding the investigation, and not from direct evidence of a FISA. FISAs are done in secret, so we will probably never know for sure. I do know the Treasury Department is involved in the investigation, so looking into banking communication makes sense.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article127231799.html

 

The FBI Director and the Chairman of the Intelligence Committee both disagree with you.

 

No, it's not a felony. The link to the manual is in this thread, where it says specifically, names don't have to be minimized if the name is critical to the context of the conversation.

I know it's been said on TV and maybe in other reports too, but it simply isn't a felony to unmask Flynn's name. It is a problem that someone leaked classified information, but they didn't release a document. It's just talk… unnamed sources to reporters. Flynn was acting as an unregistered foreign agent for Turkey, being paid by the Turkish government while he was actively involved in the Trump transition and sitting in on daily classified briefings. Flynn, as a foreign agent, is not treated like an American citizen. So, if his name came up in an intercept, and we know it did, it was either left unmasked because his name was required for context, or he was being treated as a foreign agent. Either way, it's not a felony. It would be if your name or my name came up in an intercept, but not Flynn's.

 

Link please?

 

Ahh, I see how it is with you. Have a nice day.

 

Ok. If you say so. We'll see what happens when the names get released.

 

Here's Comey saying that...yikes it could be espionage.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/20/comey-says-leaks-could-constitute-espionage.html

Here's Nunes:

http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/14/house-intel-committee-launches-investigation-of-leaks/

 

Sally Yates- note the date of her discussion with Trump and the date of the leak.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...63470bf0401_story.html?utm_term=.41910248d8ea

 

That's about leaks, not about masking. They don't disagree with me. I agree, if someone leaks classified information, it's illegal and could be prosecuted under the espionage act. Our discrepancy is whether the intelligence agencies leaked the information or whether the leaks came from the White House. Repeating what someone said isn't the same as leaking a document. No one leaked the document. Unnamed sources talked to reporters, but didn't give them documents.

 

Gowdy said reporting the leaks could not aid in a criminal investigation because Comey, as head of the FBI, already would have the information. It also could not advance national security because any leaks appearing in the press would be information that Rogers already possessed, Gowdy said.

"We could rule out wanting to help the intelligence communities and the law enforcement communities," he said. "Those are two motives that are gone now. That leaves some more nefarious motives."

Comey said leaks of that nature are troubling and would be a "serious crime." But he declined to assure the American people that his agents would investigate.

 

Here's Chairman Nunes talking about it last night. He says flat out it's a felony, and he implies he knows much more than he's saying. Also that he expects more:

 

They can't. At least not until our current facist president changes the laws.

 

What part of no evidence are you incapable of comprehending?

 

Sure he can. This does not bode well for certain someones.

 

Do you understand how it works? Only select amount of people could have gone in and seen the raw data with Mike Flynn's name on the transcript. Then, that information was leaked to the press. How did a transcript with an American's unmasked name get to the press? This is a really big deal. It's a high level leak from a former Obama Administration aide.

A felony has been committed. They just said it again in the press..... Who is unmasking and leaking these names to the press?

 

Kind of ironic ... turns out Clinton & Co. paid Michael Steele to compile a dossier about Russian blackmail schemes, in order to use that dossier in a blackmail scheme themselves, by threatening to expose salacious details about Trump.

 

Grasping at straws a bit eh! There were no FISA taps on Trump. Now if they recorded Trump while surveying Russian operatives that is called incidental surveillance.

 

Only someone with no possible clue about how America works could say something so totally clueless. What country are you actually from?

 

And a good day to you, sir. Till next time.

 

Nunes is a cattle farmer. He also has tainted his place on the committee with some accusation of information that he has yet to produce, because people said mean things about Trump. Believe him if you like.

Of course I understand how it works. lol

A felony has to be proven. If there is a DOCUMENT released to the press showing Flynn's unmasked name, then link it to me. If there is no evidence/ documented proof, then it is hearsay… Gossip. If gossip was a felony, lots of people would be locked up.