Did Trump even say it?

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  1. cupAsoup

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    No no, don't back off from your trumper logic. You said trump said it once, CNN said it thirty some times. Therefore CNN are racists! In your deluded mind, saying the word (even to repeat it) is racist. Using your own logic, you said it more times than trump, making you double racist? I don't know, trump apologist logic is like listening to a 4 yr old explain calculus.
     
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    You don't read very well, do you?
     
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    CNN aren't racist, they are just really stupid, obstructionist and hypocrites who are in collusion with the DNC and the "Resistance" to take down the sitting President of the United States.
     
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    Imagine what would happen if everyone and anyone you shared something with, thinking they has the good sense to be discreet- immediately ran to whomever would be offended and attack you for what you said. In personal life, business, politics- a certain degree of discretion and respect for privacy is a necessary thing. Politicians have tempers just like everyone else, and discussions will bring out emotions. If you expect to have politicians that can actually get some done without having any passion for the job or their beliefs, you are living in a fantasy world.

    Until people become perfect, such things will not only happen, they will happen every day, every where, with everybody. The person who goes around repeating everything they hear under those conditions, at least in private life- gets shut out of communication of any importance because they show no judgment and can't be trusted.
     
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    Calling all the coutries of Africa shitholes is not passion for the job it is childish stupidity.
     
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    What I find ironic is that all of Trumps apologists cannot say or will not say that Trump did say those words. That all said that they " do not remember". Remember when The Trumpocoty was making fun of that reporter who had degenerative neurological desease and Trumpmpantomined the guy by flawling his arms around contorting his hands and repeating the phrase " I don't remember" "I don't remember" " I don't remember"... I hope that all of Trump supporters and his Senators do not have some disease.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First, it's clear that you have not traveled much outside the US other than to tourist attractions, or you would know more about how many countries accurately fit that description. Imagine for example, what you might think if you were walking down a city street, and a woman ahead of you who felt the need to take a dump simply pulled up her skirt, squatted and deposited it on the walk. Not an act of insult to others, just how they live. I've seen this personally.

    Today there is a story from South Africa, which is certainly one of the more sophisticated African nations. In this story, a department store chain called "H&M", somewhat like a Kohls or Penny's made a stupid mistake- The marketed a hoodie with the words "Coolest monkey in the jungle" on it. Now this would not be something intended to be racist, that aspect of it obviously was missed by whomever approved the article to sell. Of course, it was seen that way. So- what was the reaction? It would seem appropriate that the customers stop buying there, as that is a huge statement of dissatisfaction. The stores are also staffed with many blacks, and their clientele includes many blacks, so the company is not unfamiliar with their market.. Instead of common sense, the ones offended used another approach- gangs of them, mostly with a particular group affiliation, went from mall to mall trashing the stores of this company in a criminal rage. The news doesn't report the degree of looting, but it's obvious that was a major part of it. People speaking for the group tell the press how insulted they are and how blacks are smart, beautiful, and blah-blah-blah- without mentioning that they aren't smart enough to handle an offended feeling without resorting to total berserk riot and destruction- or realizing that such actions only prove they are unable to behave like civilized people would, thereby re-enforcing old beliefs about their limitations.Kind of like proving you are as uncivilized as the worst critics believe you are.

    The statement said to be Trumps is "Why should we accept people from these "s**thole" countries. Perhaps he should have said "countries where the people have no values or self respect".

    Here's the way these Africans respond to what they consider an insult: Bear in mind this is a major chain of stores- Which has now closed all their SA stores, and may well pull out of the country. Why should they put up with crime as a way to complain about a clothing item the people felt was insulting? And where were the police, who should have been arresting the gangs of self-righteous thugs? I've done business in South Africa. Lots of good people there- and obviously a lot of S-hole people too. I'm sure they would like to come to America and trash our malls too.

    Story is in many places- these pics from http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/20...over-controversial-coolest-monkey-hoodie.html

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  9. Josephwalker

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    Graham, AKA Lindsey Gramnisty and durbin has a history of lying about private meetings.

    "In 2013, Politico reported:

    “In a ‘negotiation’ meeting with the president, one GOP House Leader told [President Barack Obama]: ‘I cannot even stand to look at you,’” Durbin wrote in a post on his Facebook page over the weekend.

    However, both the White House and the House speaker’s office denied Durbin’s account of events.

    Asked about the post in the White House daily briefing, press secretary Jay Carney said he checked with a participant of the meeting in question.

    “I looked into this and spoke with somebody who was in that meeting and it did not happen,” Carney said.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/25817/dick-durbin-has-history-lying-about-private-white-ryan-saavedra
     
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    What did you say when Obama called Libya a **** show nine times?
     
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    Read his parsed words carefully and you'll find he never confirms the phraseology used by the media.
     
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    Partizan- I don't know if he said them or not, nor do I think it matters except that it gave the left another reason to rage on.
    The term is street language... but the description fits a lot of places. Places you don't want to visit, nor would you want to invite to your home. S**tholes, if you will. They are that because just like every country- the people make it what it is. Some of us aren't smart enough to realize that.

    While it's politically correct (but stupid) to ignore the turd on the table, it's even worse to call it a sausage and put in on your dinner plate.

    If we started calling things what they are, perhaps we wouldn't be having to eat so much crap from around the world that we refuse to admit are unacceptable and act as if they were reasonable. We give people that hate us money and think that makes them our friends...and try to help them.
    They think we are fools for believing it, and suckers for letting them in. They are right.
     
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    Yes, Durbin.
     
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    Turns out the question isn't "Did he say it"...but was it "Shithouse or shitshow"

    There's a real difference there huh?

    Bottom line he blew up the meeting himself and then lied aboiut even THAT

    "After learning that Senator Lindsey Graham was on board, Trump invited the lawmakers for a noon visit at the Oval Office -- that, according to people familiar with the call, upon their arrival, the senators found Trump, quote, far from ready to finalize the agreement," Mika Brzezinski said.

    "He was fired up and surrounded by hard-line conservatives, including Senator Tom Cotton, who according to a person with knowledge of the meeting, seem confident that the president was now aligned with them. Trump informed those present that he wasn't interested in the terms of the bipartisan deal that Durbin and Graham had been putting together. The meeting was short, tense and often dominated by loud cross-talk and swearing, according to both Republicans and Democrats.
     
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    I'm sure there is more to the story.
     
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    I know damn well what the term is I have used it myself as very likely have you or Stefan Stefanovich has but nine of those I just mentioned are as if now the POTUS.

    What has using that term gained us?

    Are you aware that not all African countries are hellholes or shitholes. They are no where near developed but Nigeria is not the hellhole that South Sudan is. South Africa is not the shithole that Zimbabwe is.

    What it does show me is that The Trumpocity has never read the CIA briefing book that has a description of every country on earth. But Iggy The Ignoramus dies not readcand he has not grown up on the job.

    His base thinks it is just wonderfully that he is ignorant and makes statesment likeca foul mouthed 12 year old.
     
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    And Fox News is designed to appeal to those who don’t educate themselves and are stupid. They are in collusion with the RNC and Russia. They will deny what tru,p tweets and videos of his stupidity and their viewers just believe whatever they’re told.
     
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    Russian hackers and Wikileaks couldn't find any collusion between Fox News and the RNC.

    Remember that the RNC establishment didn't support Donald Trump and if the RNC were just 1/10th as corrupt as the DNC, it would be President Jeb Bush today.
     
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    We have a man who told 2,000 confirmed lies in the first year of his presidency and here we have 9 pages of a pissing match debating about who's lying and who's telling the truth. It's not rocket science folks.
     
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    Got it, instead of owning up to your obvious blunder, you mewl fake news like an infant. To be expected from trump apologists.
     
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    That's not what you said, trump apologist. You said that CNN was somehow more racist than the fatass in chief for repeating the word shithole more times than he used it. Don't back off your red hat logic now.
     
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    If you believe that "shitholes" is a racist term and refers to people not places or things, then it seems CNN has no problem with using the word.

    I myself who rejects political correctness understand the meaning of words especially slang and shitholes are places or things, not people. Has nothing to do with race or people.

    You have a President in the White House who ran on an anti political correctness platform who isn't scared of telling the truth by calling a spade a spade.

    Haiti, El Salvador and some African countries are shitholes, the leaders of those countries know it and so do the people who live in those shitholes.
     
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    How do you know what they found. Reports are that they hacked the RNC and several Senators e-mails...and oddly found nothing embarrassing enough to release.

    How likely is that?
     
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    Not at all. First, you say he is ignorant- because he does not do what you think he should. You are using your own standard here.... "He must be ignorant because I would do different". That is totally common. It's like saying I would have won the race if those other guys hadn't run so fast, so they must have cheated. It couldn't be you that fails to comprehend, it must be them. We see that logic every day from the left.

    If you were as smart as Trump- YOU would be a billionaire. Why not?
    Gee... he must have cheated and taken your money before you got there.
    We understand where you are coming from.

    Trump is not a "nice" guy, but then- nice guys finish last in the real world competitions.
     
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    I agree, and-
    One might note that CNN has used the "S**thole" term freely and, uncensored, around 150 times in one day according to a news check site.
    They don't seem to think it's offensive when they say it. Especially when they can make a Trump-bashing tool out of it.
     

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