Did Trump's arbitrary decision cause the Saudi oil refinery attack?

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Yeah, as Dorian was heading northeast, away from Florida, Trump warned the people of Alabama that they may get "hit hard" by the hurricane. For six days he maintained he was right, and brought in his chief of staff, commerce secretary, and an anonymous NOAA employee to support his false weather forecast.

    Soon after that we learned that he had invited the sponsors of the 9/11 hijackers to Camp David for a meeting four days before 9/11/19.

    Now he says we are "locked and loaded" and prepared to hit Iran. “The United States is more prepared” for a conflict than any country in history. Then he says he wants to avoid war, but his secretary of state says Iran did it, but Trump is not sure who did it.

    Trump says he will place American military might into the hands of the Saudis. On Sunday, after bragging that U.S military forces are “locked and loaded,” Trump made it clear he would be more than happy to order a strike on whatever country the Saudis tell him to hit.

    We, Trump said, “are waiting to hear from the Kingdom [of Saudi Arabia] as to who they believe was the cause of this attack, and under what terms we would proceed!” Spoken like a Commander-in-Chief who has no idea what the American military is all about.

    It really gets confusing sometimes.
     
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    Trump is so sick its scary.. Iran seized another oil tanker today.
     
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    Of course Trump is responsible for Iran attacking the Saudi Oil.

    Trump IS as Trump DOES.

    Thanks alot, Trump! :smh:
     
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    Really sorry about that, but editing a post is a common practice on PF.

    More importantly, apparently you are agreeing with everything I am saying. You have not challenged anything. Simply calling it bullshit without justification doesn't count. Your entire focus is on me, not what I have said.

    You are not the only one. Not one Trump fan has questioned what I have said. They Can't. You can't. Time to re-think your priorities. .
     
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    I read “The NYT reports...” and you might
    as well toss it in the trash. They don't report anything anymore. They only spin, deceive and lie now. It’s all editorials and opinion. Biased, leftist opinions. So sad what they've sunk to.
     
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    The non-military Commander-in-Chief does not think the matter of the oil refinery attack is very serious. Incredibly, Trump kicked off a three-day swing out West today, rallying supporters in Rio Rancho, New Mexico, a suburb of Albuquerque, Monday evening. He will spend the night in the Albuquerque area, then travel to California for a slate of fundraising events Tuesday in Palo Alto and Beverly Hills. Trump will attend additional fundraisers in Los Angeles and San Diego on Wednesday before returning to Washington.

    Unreal.

    As Trump goes on the campaign trail, Iran’s Revolutionary Guards have seized a vessel in the Gulf for allegedly smuggling 250,000 litres of diesel fuel to the United Arab Emirates, Iran’s semi-official news agency ISNA has reported.

    Trump leaves behind the Office of the Director of National Intelligence without a permanent director. Trump fired Dan Coats months ago. His secretary of defense has been on the job for all of two months. Trump has no National Security Advisor. He fired John Bolton a few days ago. His chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney is acting in an acting capacity.

    What a President.

    We deserve him. We let it happen.
     
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    I'll be damned. They did. Thanks for the heads up.

    What does our President do? He goes on the campaign trail. Unbelievable.
     
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    He likes tweeting and campaign rallies.. Trump doesn't do press conferences.
     
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    If Iran did it -- and I am reasonably certain she did -- yes, of course. Like I said, there is a direct link between Trump's rueful decision to pull out of the JCPOA and reimposing sanctions and the attack on the oil refinery.
     
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    So It's Trump's fault the Iranian leadership is comnpletely irrational?
     
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    Trump isn't going to do anything.. Iran seized another oil tanker today. Get it?
     
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    Funny I don't recall having claimed he would .
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    We will see, but I think you are dreaming. We got a President who seems to be willing to hit any target the Saudis suggest. Also, should a war between S.A. and Iran break out, we will get roped into it for sure. The Iranians are not going to let the Saudis retaliate on Iranian soil.

    You mean the U.S.? Not sure what you meant by that statement.

    BTW, any war with Iran will make the Iraq war seem like a walk in the park. I seriously doubt the non-military Trump knows that.

    On the other hand, he acts belligerent, then takes it away with his next sentence. That's typical Trump. He always wants it both ways and he is scared to death of committing himself.
     
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    Iran did this deed but Trump is not acting rationally not as a CIC. This is no surprise though.
     
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    Baseless speculation driven by Trump hate is not worth the time of rational people.
    When you have some facts worthy of debate, post them.
     
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    Trump is a Clown show host. About time El Saud got some payback .. The Houthi's had every right to attack them - and if Iran supplied them with the arms to do it .. who are we to talk ? Our arms have been used by Saudi Arabia to decimate Yemen ... No one even debates there were war crimes and humanitarian atrocities o plenty .. Heck .. they are even talking implicating the US because we armed El Saud and were complicit in this war.
     
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    He is afraid to commit. He doesn't want to lose voters.

    On the other hand, he talks too much. He is still the reality show host who needs to be seen on daytime television every single day. As shown in some of the posts, he makes a complete fool of himself.

    A smart President would keep his mouth shut, allow his people to sort it all out, allow discussions as to what to do about it, then, when all that is completed, report to the American people sans grandiose military boasts. Trump is non-military. He doesn't know that Americans do not have to brag about our military prowess.
     
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    Pathetic. There is no other word for it.
     
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    On their worst day the NYT has never come close to sinking to the depths of the Liar-in-Chief's pathological lying.
     
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    Yes a smart man or POTUS would. Obviously that is the problem.
     
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    When did the Democrats change rules ???

    For 16 years the Democrats were always blaming G.W. Bush for everything.
     
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    A war with Iran will make the Iraq war seem like a walk in the park. Nearly 5,000 Americans were killed in Iraq, nearly 25,000 wounded, an estimated one million Iraqis were killed, and the war lasted eight years at a cost of $2.4trillion. Sixteen years later, our troops are still in Iraq fighting the enemy.
     
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    Why didn't they hit any of the 5 U.S. Military bases in Saudi Arabia? There's even one just across the Persian Gulf from Iran.
     
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