Do Future Generations Deserve to Suffer?

Agreed. Note the lax attitude and posture of those in the video below. They were NOT taking the economy seriously. I suspect that "trillions" doesn't register in their minds.

MAGA!
Steve

 

A society should take care of citizen children needs and the citizen old age survivors until they pass. The able bodied in-between (18 to 65) should do the taking care of, and not be receiving benefits themselves.

 

Well yeah, but they're going to choose what they choose. And live with the consequences.

 

Exactly but will they wake up or go the way of Cuba?

 

I don't follow. When did I say anything about free stuff? I'm calling the baby-boomers as the cancer they are.

 

Just like SurferJoe correctly noted, the "me, mine, selfish" attitude on full display. Peppered with a dose of sociopathic gloating about the potential suffering of future generations. Do you not have children or what else is it that makes you unable to think outside your me, me, me bubble?

 

I ask the question basically to be able to accept the fate of the youth. These are the same young folks who are clamoring for socialism.....the Bernie supporters. They have no idea how bad their future will be. I try to educate them on the topic when I can. Is it my fault if they make a bad choice? I say, no it is not.

Just like the last election. If Hillary had won I was already considering starting a business and employing illegal aliens that I could exploit to the maximum. Why not profit off the stupidity of others?

I already know that open borders will be a disaster for the nation but if I can cash in there are other countries I can go to in order to escape the consequences.

So you see I do realize that I can only do so much. I cannot wave a magic wand and make folks instantly intelligent. But I can position myself to survive and even thrive. I did so in the past and have not looked back. I come here to share my wisdom but as they say "horse, water, drink, etc...."

You are welcome.

 

"Exploit to the maximum..."

Keep talking and cementing the display of your anti-American selfish attitude for everyone to see.

Do you call yourself a Christian, btw?

 

I agree with most of what you're saying but you're old enough to remember an America that succeeded in achieving most of the founder's visions. Until the left came along with their psychopathic world view and agenda America was that shining city on a hill. These perverts started preaching their stupidity to young Americans in the 1960's and at least half of them are now hopelessly deranged and bent on destroying America with their magical utopian wet dreams. Do you feel you can go to the finish line leaving America to these idiots? It's not just about America but the whole world, America has always been the buffer to the insanity in the rest of the world. When America becomes a part of that, then what? It's always tempting to let fools be fools and suffer the consequences but we are talking about the whole of humanity. Personally I don't hold out much hope for majority of twenty and thirty somethings, the effect that the left has had on them especially in education has left them with huge cognitive and social deficits. Socialism has always been the flame to dim witted moths and there are just so many of them. Still I will be sad to leave what held so much promise to those who will blindly reject that for something glittery and delusional.

 

So everyone wanting free stuff is ok but I cannot get a piece of the pie? LOL!

Typical lefty nonsense.

If big companies and farmers can exploit illegal aliens why can't I?

 

Depends what sort of suffering.

For instance, if every adult decides to amputate their arms and legs, the next generation is going to suffer a lot caring for an ageing, universally legless older generation. If every adult decides to burn down their house the next generation is going to suffer.

But he next generation is not entitled to your legs or your house.

 

The boomers gave rise to millennials....so you are not far off.

 

I am talking the typical suffering that goes with socialism.

 

We didn’t create legislation that resulting in this current mess. That’s all you guys.

“Not far off” is not an argument.

 

You didn't mention specific socialist proposal so I can't really address your post.

 

Fair enough. What I am talking about is bigger government with cradle to grave entitlements. "Free stuff" in other words. This is how it is usually sold. Also the use of envy by blaming all the ills of society on the rich.

The result is more government control over the population which eventually leads to a power hungry government class that oppresses and abuses its people.

 

I would say government corruption led to it. I am just as frustrated with that as you are.

 

That is still not very specific. I cannot evaluate the impact of "free stuff" without specifically knowing what exactly this free stuff is.

 

Maybe a desire to buy cars and other goods before the tariffs boost the price is the reason for temporary increases in spending.

 

Ironic, coming from someone who voted for "free" money for himself through unpaid-for tax cuts, which the next generation will have to pay for, either by increased tax rates, reduced social security benefits, or both.

 

Now you are just being contrary. Most folks know what the basic idea of socialism is.

 

How is keeping more of the money I EARN "free"?

 

Actually there is a lot of misunderstanding of what socialism is. There are even two very different definitions, democratic socialism like we see in Europe and Communist socialism. Not only that but many countries claiming to be non-socialist have a lot of democratic socialist policies like the US. This is even more confused by the fact that while many countries claim to be socialist like China, they have a lot of free market policies that make them in some ways more free market than the US. Different socialist countries also have different socialist policies e.g. Venezuela and Sweden while both claiming to be socialist have very different socialist policies. Different socialist countries can implement their socialist systems very differently, e.g. the universal healthcare in the UK is very different from Switzerland.

 

LOL!

You wanna re-think that?

 

I certainly hope that the world doesn't "...go to hell in a hand basket" but don't see socialism registering as high on the misery scale as a WW 3 from which Americans may not be so insulated as they were in previous World Wars.
Therefore feel a responsibility to what I consider my next generation to prevent the likelihood of such a miserable existence.

I'm afraid that the most likely way in which the lives of America's younger generation could "...go to hell in a hand basket" would be if Americans allowed themselves to be driven into another war by a foreign country & for a foreign country.

While I recognize the volatile situations between N. & S. Korea & elsewhere around the globe, it is my humble opinion that the Mid East is currently the most likely location for a devastating conflict to erupt.

I supported Trump's previous plan to draw down U.S. troops in the Mid East & Central Asia and bring thousands of those members of the next generation home but, regrettably, Trump has become a fawning puppet(1) of one of the world's most influential & strident war mongers(2).

One would think that Americans would remember how insidiously & effectively Americans were deceived into launching the previous war(3) for Israel's bellicose Right Wing extremists.

Yes, everyone agrees that it was a bad idea to go into Iraq but too few are paying attention now toward the current, "quiet" (3) creep toward an even more disastrous foreign orchestrated confrontation with Iran.
I assume that most people familiar with the region knows that a war with Iran would mean the last of Israel and very likely a WW 3.

While there are many ethical & peace seeking Israelis, I'm afraid that the American Government's unconditional support of Israel's aggressive Right Wing element has sidelined them so it's up to loyal Americans who have had enough of wasting $ Trillions and thousands of American lives for AIPAC's "quiet successes"(3) & a thankless foreign war monger:

Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

http://web.archive.org/web/20060512234448/http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html

Iran is neither a threat to the US nor has it attacked anyone in 300 years but Netanyahu wants war & Israel has used deceptive "False Flag" attacks on the U.S. as far back as the Lavon Affair in the 1950s.

Meanwhile, if you really care about the welfare of America's next generation, the least you can do is to bring them home & work to avoid leaving them an irradiated wasteland.




(1) "How Netanyahu Pulls Trump’s Strings"
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/10/15/how-netanyahu-pulls-trumps-strings/

EXCERPTS "Since Sept. 18, when the two men met in New York around the United Nations General Assembly, Netanyahu has been pulling Trump’s strings on almost every foreign policy issue.

Trump further showed that he is following Netanyahu’s marching orders with the extremist speech about Iran on Friday, essentially repeating all the Israeli propaganda lines against Iran and burning whatever bridges remained toward a meaningful diplomatic approach.

Although dressing up his capitulation to Netanyahu in tough-guy phrasing, Trump is doing what most U.S. politicians do – they grovel before Bibi Netanyahu.



(2) "Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Leads US President Trump to War with Iran"
https://www.unz.com/jpetras/israeli...hu-leads-us-president-trump-to-war-with-iran/

EXCERPT "Trump parrots Netanyahu’s falsehoods to the letter: He raves that Iran, while technically in compliance, has violated ‘the spirit of the agreement’ without citing a single instance of actual violation. The 5 other signers of the ‘Framework’, the US military and the UN’s International Atomic Energy Agency have repeatedly certified Iran’s strict compliance with the accord. Trump rejects the evidence of countless experts among US allies and ‘his own generals’ while embracing the hysterical lies from Israel and the ‘52’. Who would have thought the ‘hard-nosed’ businessman Trump would be so ‘spiritual’ when it came to honoring and breaking treaties and agreements!"CONTINUED


(3) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html