Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

There are a few major red flags surrounding the Burzinski clinic. First off, the clinic pre-registered 62 clinical studies (you are required by law to register your studies before they start, so that it's harder to brush failure under the rug), and of those, the status of 50 is unknown (presumed dead), 7 were withdrawn, 2 were terminated as failures, 2 are pending, and one was completed, but never published. There are two reasons why this is a massive red flag: firstly because it means there's no publicly availably strong evidence that the drugs being offered work despite a very long testing phase, lending credence to the idea that the drugs, in fact, do not work, and secondly because a permanent stage of clinical testing is the only way an unproven drug can be handled without serious legal liability issues.

Meanwhile, while he does this, he charges his patients at rates completely unheard of for clinical testing - given that this drug appears relatively untested, and that Burzinski cannot provide evidence that it works that is verifiable, this is, again, a serious red flag. Virtually no clinical drug test carry a price tag, let alone one so high. Then there's the way he markets himself - his movie is full of the type of marketing one sees most commonly from "alternative medicine", using buzzwords that sound good but don't really mean anything, or are being used in ways that make them meaningless. Oh, and the libel lawsuits against his critics, trying to silence them. To quote Respectful Insolence from ScienceBlogs:

 

I am certainly no expert but my daughter in laws mom is from the province of Loja, Ecuador and knows some of the background to the claims of longevity from the village of Vilcabamba. She has gotten the impression that the native people from that area have astonishingly high levels of energy and health even at advanced age!

In the book "The Miracle of MSM" it was stated that a certain percentage of cancer patients went into remission simply by adding 3000 mgms or more of MSM to their diet daily.

In Vilcabamba, the water and the volcanic soil apparently have an extremely high number of trace minerals. Adding eighty or ninety trace minerals to fertilizer costs about one dollar per person per year.

What leaves me scratching my head is that, considering how amazinly low cost it would be to add....MSM...plus trace minerals...plus all eight glyconutrients to the diet of people who have cancer.....why in the world is this amazingly low cost potential remedy not tested?????!!!!!!

Why do we try so hard to reduce our response to cancer down to one thing....when a cocktail of inexpensive immune system boosters might do a much better job!!!???

 

Stagnant....I'm not convinced that you are correct but I must admit that you do a good job of making your case!!!

 

It also seems that Dr. Burzynski is not the only physician who considers that the FDA is putting pressure on physicians and deliberately attempting to stop an individual to patent a drug that really works!



http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/01/19/cancer-doctor-burzynski.aspx

 

Father of Alternative Ultramodern Healing Arrested for
Telling the Truth About Disease

By Brendon Small
source http://www.hourofthetime.com/

On August 8th, an undercover officer for the Largo Police Department posed as a client in need, so Dr. Monus gave him an educated opinion as to a suggested protocol, and was then arrested as a result.

This morning, Veritas News Service along with CAJI/IS specialists, contacted and interviewed Dr. Monus concerning the attack he suffered at the hands of the FDA, Federal and State Government, powerful drug company special interests and found a man who was understandably beside himself with fear, anxiety and stress. Dr. Donald Monus fears for his life because of the way he was arrested and for what he knows and teaches. The minions of the FDA and big-pharma interests even brought in the ATF to attack and raid the 61 year olds office, home and lab. All this for a man who has no police record to date and served his country in Vietnam, being a veteran of that war. The Largo Police are abusing RICO laws by stealing Dr. Monus's car, microscope, computer, cash, other assets, and have frozen his bank account, all with zero evidence of racketeering.

He wanted us to pass along a warning to everyone out there which is; this is a concerted effort sweeping the country to shut-down people who are trying to help people, by telling the truth about fighting disease, the origin of diseases, the natural methods to use in combating diseases along with healthy living practices.

Dr. Donald Monus is being arraigned in Pinellas County, Florida, September 10th, 2012 on the allegations for the "practicing healthcare without a license".

Dr. Monus has the credentials and experience as an effective researcher, biochemical inventor, and as one most knowledgeable in the field of alternative ultramodern healing. In 1993 Dr. Monus was honored as Doctor by The Pediatric AIDS Foundation for writing research grant proposals to cure HIV. In 1998, Dr. Monus earned his degree as a Doctor of Naturopathy from the Southern College of Naturopathy. In 2004, Dr. Monus authored the revered and effective book, “What's Killing You And What To Do About It”.

From 1993 up until the arrest, Dr. Monus has been working as an alternative research Oncologist.

Since Dr. Monus has no assets, he cannot pay for legal fees, food, or bills. Correspondence of any kind can be directed to:

Dr. Donald Monus
604 7th St. SE
Largo, Florida 33771
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I happen to know this guy personally, he cured a dear friend of ours with breast cancer using herbs, change in diet, and radio frequency, "Rife" technology. She knew of 2 people that he also cured of cancer naturally, (which is why she went to him when she was diagnosed). Her oncologist wanted to remove both her breasts and put her through chemo and radiation, and we all know about the side effects involved in that treatment. When my own son was younger he was dealing with a horrific amount of emotional disorders, we took him to every psychologist, psychiatrist, neurologist, naturopath etc. to try to find an answer and all they did was keep pumping him with drugs...lithium, depakote, abilify, respiridol, gabapentin, and a few others I can't think of right now...he was about 9 years old and taking around 20 + pills a day which basically did nothing...then this friend of ours told us about Dr. Monus. to make a long story short, he ran some blood tests and guided us through some dietary changes, a regiment of herbs, and also this "rife technology". within 6 months our son had improved greatly and we had weened him off of his medications (against the psychiatrists recommendations of course). he was down to only taking fish oil pills and a B complex vitamin, his tantrums and fits of rage had all but ceased, his focus and attention had improved drastically and things where doing great...and then I get a knock at my door...our local DCF stopped by, they where concerned about our sons health, being taken off his medications, then we had to deal with a DCF investigation for a while. that case was eventually closed but it was a pain in the ass just dealing with them for 6 months or so...so I will assume you know where I stand on this matter.
many people talk about naturopaths, herbal healing, and the whole big pharma, FDA squishing inexpensive cures to disease etc. as tin hattery but I can tell you that I've seen both sides of it both directly and indirectly myself. when I say both sides of it I mean both the healing side of naturopathy and the big govt. opressive side of it.

 

It's because I do my research. I look into claims before buying into them wholesale. For example:

Vilcabamba was a fairly straightforward case: they lied. If you looked into this, you'd know that this was a myth... But you didn't. So you go on to make claims like this:

Even if this were the case, the longevity present in Vilcabamba is not inconsistent with the norm.

But it was tested. And the results are mixed at best. As I pointed out earlier in the thread, "glyconutrients" is a marketing term, that is completely bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

Because as a general rule, when you're going to assert a massive, international scientific conspiracy, you need to reevaluate your position, because your position is utterly unrealistic. And to assert that immune system boosters would work against cancer shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what cancer is. It's like saying you could heal a fragmented tibia with more vitamin C.

And then there's that article you linked from Mercola, showing that you have learned nothing since page one. Let's recall what I wrote back in post 87:

Mercola is yet another junk science "alternative medicine" website, feeding virtually all of the same paranoid crap that naturalnews does - from anti-flouridation efforts to the anti-vaccination hysteria to virtually every crap remedy and cure that comes their way, so long as it sounds natural and goes against the grain. Please, figure out which sources are reliable, and which aren't. The FDA has actually made a point of telling Dr. Mercola to stop making unverified medical claims on his site. To quote Quackwatch:

But as for why the FDA would try to shut down Burzinski... Well, take the information I offered you, about him not finishing clinical trials, about his unprecedented method of charging tens of thousands of dollars for what is by rights an experimental treatment, and his using endless trials to get around the necessary step of proving that his treatment works indefinitely, the fact that when he claimed remission through his drugs others were unable to replicate his results, and then ask yourself - would it make sense for the FDA to try to stop him from doing something like that? This isn't some vast government conspiracy; this is the FDA trying to prevent a fraud from taking people's money! It's really that straightforward, regardless of what conspiracies the writers for Mercola want to make up. Added bonus: he got off on a technicality. I actually looked specifically for this quote:

...But I couldn't find a primary source, nor any source that offered any context - just the naked quote itself, spammed on blog after blog after blog. Which didn't surprise me. It seems to be real in the same way that "We can't account for the lack of warming, and it is a travesty that we cannot" is. My guess? Taken wildly out of context. Can you offer me a primary source and prove me wrong? Because I'm sure as hell not taking Mercola's word for it, especially when it ain't here.


[MENTION=52854]ctarborist[/MENTION]: I couldn't find a single independent source on Dr. Monus, save for his own website, and copies of that dubious report you mentioned. What I did find was Dr. Monus's website, which was almost entertaining in its quackery - the moment you see reference to Deepak Chopra on a self-identifying medical website is the moment you should close the tab and find a better source.

 

Dennis Your first clue that your source has seious problems is the fact that you have me on the same page with Bowerbird and Stagnant, and that is all but impossible to do as we agree about almost nothing else.

 

Added Mercola bonus shot: Mercola endorses Tullio "Cancer is a Fungus" Simoncini.

The only way to support these people is to assert that there is a gigantic international conspiracy suppressing remedies such as MSM or Glyconutrients - after all, if the FDA isn't having it here, what's stopping these people from trying in other countries, unless they're also biased? - for the sake of continued profits. Oh, and that this conspiracy includes the majority of western medical societies, along with multiple independent cancer foundations. And I'm sorry, but when you have to concoct such an elaborate scheme on one hand, when on the other hand, the explanation is simply "Mercola, Burzinski, and numerous other 'alternative medicine' hacks with no established evidence that their remedies work are fraudsters", and that explanation has a fairly convincing batch of colluding evidence, well, what do you expect people like me to do? What's more, when you concoct such elaborate conspiracy theories, it opens your mind to all sorts of further ideas - any quack proposing some new, inventive, unproven (and non-functional) treatment that gets shut down by the FDA can just claim he was being suppressed by Big Pharma, and people like you instantly have his back, because, well, that's just what you think the FDA does, due to what you've already said - it shuts down people who get in the way of Big Pharma's profits. It also makes it harder to make intelligent medical decisions. It is without a sliver of doubt a good idea to get vaccinated against MMR, Polio, and any number of other dangerous diseases. If you listen to Mercola, you will make the wrong decision for yourself and your children, and end up endangering everyone.

Garyd, you and I don't often see eye to eye, but I think we can fairly assert that neither you, nor I, nor Bowerbird are idiots. And this issue is incredibly clear-cut.

 

Hey stagnant, I'm not here to try to sell you on anything or to pretend that I'm some kind of guru on alternative medicine, I know that some of Dr. Monus' theories seem weird and quackery like. but what I do know is that as soon as our friend, whom we speak to at least once a week, and her husband is a fishing buddy of mine, well, as soon as she started doing his recommended herbal treatments and change of diet her cancer began to disappear...she continued to see her oncologist to monitor her situation and after a few months he kinda mumbled to her "I don't know exactly what it is your doing but whatever it is keep doing it". I also know that she and the two other people that she knows that had cancer and saw this Dr. are now all cancer free and have been for quite some time. I also know the vast improvements I've seen in my son since we started working with him. regarding his arrest all I know is what I've read about (little bits) online and what I've heard from the Dr. himself (I've spoken with him on the phone briefly, twice, since his arrest. So in all honesty all I know is what I've seen with my own 2 eyes...but I've seen a bit. take it for what its worth.

 

There is this interesting thing called spontaneous remission. It happens time to time without any treatment at all. Not only God but occassionally the human body works in mysterious ways. This is likely what happened with your friend rather than Monus's crap cocktail curing everything.

 

its kinda funny that you just posted this...I actually was just now talking to my wife about this discussion that we are having here. She talks with this friend of ours more often then I do (its a woman thing ya know) and well my wife informed me that since our friend was cured of cancer she had recdomended Dr. Monus to 6 or 7 of her friends that where diagnosed with cancer...He cured all of them except for one young man, this one young man had had cancer for quite some time and the regular Dr.'s had deemed him terminal...after testing Dr. Monus agreed that his case was too far along,,,all the others he managed to cure. which means that of people that I know either directly or indirectly he's cured aprox. 9 out of ten with the other one being admittedly too far along unfortunately to help.
but like I said this is just what I and some of my friends have dealt with, but it does on the surface seem pretty impressive.

 

I hear a lot of stories like that about various things, from Monus's therapies to acupuncture to homeopathy to Miracle Mineral Solvents. They're always in just about the form you bring up, and the only thing separating what you bring up from the other three I just mentioned is that what Monus does has not been proven not to work - it's simply not been proven to work, rather than been disproved. I'm curious, if he had such a miraculous cancer (and apparently not just cancer) treatment, why he didn't go public with it. If he had results, how hard would it be to document them in an orderly fashion and get them published somewhere?

There are a number of reasons why I'm highly skeptical of this, and would be even if I took you 100% at your word (which I can't say I do). For starters, there's the fact that any quack with a microphone and a "remedy" (imagine those quotation marks the size of a small house if you can) can become highly publicized on sites like NaturalNews or Marcola, and it doesn't take all that much to get mainstream media attention when talking about cures for cancer. But a google search for him turns up, well... next to nothing, really. His own website, a miniscule mention at Quackwatch, mugshot websites, and a handful of bloggers and forum posters copy-pasting Brendon Small's article on his behalf. That's... bizarre, for someone with such great results.

Then there's the fact that he's apparently applying the same therapy for multiple diseases and neurological disorders with entirely different sources and getting positive results. Windex syndrome, as it's colloquially called (the idea that there's one cure-all therapy for all that ills us) should be seen as a massive red flag for the same reason you wouldn't trust a handyman who promises he can fix everything wrong with your house, from the stairs being creaky to the chipping paint to the TV sometimes not working by installing a box that rids the house of the magic termites causing all these ills. If someone is claiming that the same therapy cleared up serious mental disorders and cured cancer, you can usually assume that they're full of (*)(*)(*)(*). The human body just does not work that way.

My father keeps on blabbing on about how him and half his friends have seen significant health benefits from Acupuncture, but I don't buy it. Do you know why? Because in every study performed, acupuncture performed equal to or worse than an equivalent placebo. So it's either that him and his friends have some sort of confirmation bias and are misattributing their healing, or that decades of scientific research are bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I dunno about you, but I think it's considerably more likely that aging hippies are getting the source of their healing wrong. And even if I believed you, I'd throw up exactly the same objections.

Added bonus: Testimonials page, AKA something real medicine doesn't need, because it has actual science supporting it.

 

It's already scientifically well-established that cancer is mostly caused by living an unhealthy lifestyle - bad diet, overly sedentary, smoking, boozing, etc. Exercise after the onset of cancer reduces morality rates substantially. Nobody is suppressing that knowledge, it's widely available.

 

Nope cancer is the result of the fact that in the end entropy always wins, and we've blunted most of it's other tools. Unhealthy life styles and smoking don't actually cause cancer. What they do is to cause your body to wear out faster thereby making you susceptable to cancer at an earlier age.

By and large the reason there is more cancer and heart disease to day is because we have less bubonic plague, cholera and dipthera.

 

How does entropy cause cancer?

 

I'm certainly no apologist for the "alternative medicine" community, but the evidence for acupuncture's therapeutic efficacy is not as straightforward as you're making it out to be. In fact, Cancer Treatment Centers for America offers acupuncture as a complimentary therapy for its patients. There is some evidence which suggests it has a positive impact on inflammatory processes. Here is a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study that found a statistically significant difference between acupuncture and placebo in the treatment of chronic allergic rhinitis: A double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trial of acupuncture for the treatment of childhood persistent allergic rhinitis.

From the study:

CONCLUSIONS: This study showed that active acupuncture was more effective than sham acupuncture in decreasing the symptom scores for persistent allergic rhinitis and increasing the symptom-free days.

Basically, the evidence is ambiguous but suggestive. I wouldn't discount it at this point.

 

Excellent post Etherial!!!

Once in my life I saw what sure looked like the aura around a flock of birds. I was taking high amounts of a nutritional product at that time called Matol. Matol was supposed to increase the ability of the blood to absorb oxygen. The increased level of energy that I got when I took Matol sure would correspond with what the inventor Karl Jurak felt that his substance would do for people.

Each bird seemed to have its own unique blotch of colour...one colour per bird!!!!

I personally suspect that if somebody is really good at acupuncture we will eventually be able to see how the circulation of energy is altered in a patient by a genuinely gifted acupuncturist!

I know of some people who see the human aura on a regular basis. I suspect that somebody with that gift would be a lot better at acupuncture than I could ever be no matter how much training I would get!

 

On the other hand like Bowerbird.....you do some research....then you stop and thus your conclusions are flawed!

As I mentioned I know people from there and when I asked about the whole thing.....she said that yes....some people lied and exaggerated their age in order to get more media attention which they felt might translate into more money!!!!

Your conclusion though is seriously flawed in comparison to the opinion of somebody who actually has some family connections to Loja, Ecuador. She asserts that the people from there appear to be amazingly energetic even at advanced age. If all it costs is one Australian dollar per person per year to add ninety or more trace minerals to fertilizer......then the only reason that it is not done.........is because people in positions of power.........don't want it done because it would increase the human immune system and they would lose money......And perhaps they are convinced that overpopulation is the worst problem in the world implying that perhaps ninety percent of us ignorant masses need to be cleansed from the earth anyway.....so the last thing to do would be to make it possible for them to be energetic both mentally and physically at eighty or ninety or a hundred....or more!!!!

 

My post should not be construed as an endorsement of "alternative medicine" in general. I believe acupuncture's therapeutic properties are due to an enhanced placebo effect.

As for your experience on Matol, that, too, could just be a placebo effect. Unless this Matol was subjected to a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study, there would be no way to tell the difference.

 

Stagnant.....my last name Tate...is English!!!

For centuries now a tiny percentage of the population of England has been attempting to perpetuate their political and economic power over society.

I am Canadian and I honestly feel that I owe Americans an apology for the way that my ancestors ignorantly believed all that they were told regarding the causes of the American Revolution:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7653888/
An apology to all Americans from a Canadian, and a thank you!

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Some of my ancestors were Masons from Dixie who came to Country Harbour, Nova Scotia at the time of the American Revolution. I deeply appreciate the fact that so many Americans were closer to God than we Canadians tend to be and somehow your leaders were guided to not persecute us!


"Around 1776 this prophecy was given by the Puritan Reformers,
when the British Empire Loyalists turned north to settle in Canada
in order to remain under British rule. When zealous Americans
sought to persecute them because of this decision, the Spirit of
the Lord spoke through their prophets saying, "Do not hinder these
people. Let them move to Canada. Do not seek to incorporate the
land of Canada into America. I am in the independence of
America from Britain, and will mightily use this country. But
Canada has been reserved by me for the last days for a special work.."(Stand on Guard, Faytene Kryskow - Grasseschi).

I also wish to apologize for the fact that the leadership of my nation was less guided by the Holy Spirit and we did not understand how the independence of America was comparable to the division of the Northern Kingdom of Israel from the Southern Kingdom of Judah at the time of King Rehoboam the son of Solomon.

I also wish to apologize for our elitism because it has been playing a significant role in your economic crash of 2008. If a higher percentage of Americans understood the full implications of truly wise monetary policy the world would begin to look quite different indeed!

Chapter 49 — The History of Banking Control in the United States
http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty49.htm
Alain Pilote:

We are in 1750. The United States of America does not yet exist; it is the 13 Colonies of the American continent, forming “New England”, a possession of the motherland, England. Benjamin Franklin wrote about the population of that time: “Impossible to find a happier and more prosperous population on all the surface of the globe.” Going over to England to represent the interests of the Colonies, Franklin was asked how he accounted for the prosperous conditions prevailing in the Colonies, while poverty was rife in the motherland:

“That is simple,” Franklin replied. “In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one.”

The English bankers, being informed of that, had a law passed by the British Parliament prohibiting the Colonies from issuing their own money, and ordering them to use only the gold or silver debt-money that was provided in insufficient quantity by the English bankers. The circulating medium of exchange was thus reduced by half.

“In one year,” Franklin stated, “the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed.”

Then the Revolutionary War was launched against England, and was followed by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. History textbooks erroneously teach that it was the tax on tea that triggered the American Revolution. But Franklin clearly stated:

“The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament: which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England, and the Revolutionary War.”

The Founding Fathers of the United States, bearing all these facts in mind, and to protect themselves against the exploitation of the International Bankers, took good care to expressly declare, in the American Constitution, signed at Philadelphia, in 1787, Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5:

“Congress shall have the power to coin money and to regulate the value thereof.”
(Alain Pilote)

 

All right, never mind.

 

I haven't touched Matol myself since 1999 because my reaction to it could be termed alergic! It apparently elevates my level of norepinephrine! An old guy from near home found that he had nearly total remission from his psoriasis when he took Matol. Many people went through the usual side effects of the body detoxifying! If I was ever diagnosed with cancer it is one of the products that I might just take again because getting rid of the cancer would obviously overshadow the negative effect of having too much norepinephrine!!??

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Way too much logic in the idea that we English are just as evil as people in Germany or Japan or Russia aye???!!

http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...-how-we-behaved-during-revolutionary-war.html
We Canadians owe Americans an apology for how we behaved during Revolutionary War!

 

Dr. Oz seems to be at least somewhat impressed by what Dr. Burzynski has discovered!

Read more: http://www.oprah.com/oprahradio/Dr-Stanislaw-Burzynskis-Cure-for-Cancer-Audio#ixzz2QXmCARCG

 

Not impossible when you consider that Pharma OWNS the FDA just like Wall Street OWNS the SEC.

 

Other than just making the blanket statement, what do you offer as proof of this assertion?