Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

A highly logical and intelligent assessment of the whole situation Phoebe Bump!!!

Your comment is quite encouraging! Perhaps tremendous political and economic power should indeed be wrested out of the hands of my grandsons and bestowed on my granddaughters from all those probable past lives of mine??!!

http://near-death.com/experiences/reincarnation01.html

 

I offer as evidence the hundreds of former prescription medicines that became over-the-counter when the patents ran out. Regardless of the economics, how does a drug require a prescription one day but be safe enough to be sold over-the-counter the next day without FDA duplicity?

 

Yup........definitely time for a female dominated era!!!!!!


http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...en-may-have-30-more-connections-than-men.html

 

A drug requires a prescription one day, and becomes over the counter the next via a complex process that usually starts with the manufacturer submitting data that shows that particular compound is safe for self administration. In order to prove that a compound is safe for self administration, they must show a documented history, along with numerous post launch studies, of its safe use while under doctors prescription. In evaluating this application, the FDA scrutinizes very closely any reported adverse events including drug interactions that have occurred while this drug was written under physician guidance. The safety bar must be set much higher for OTC drugs, and as such, this burden isnt typically met until a great deal of data exists that shows its use under a physicians care. In no way shape or form does having a higher safety bar for OTC products show duplicity between the FDA and Pharma.

 

Baloney. The complex process involves lunch and an envelope.

 

Once again, you simply say that by virtue of a blanket statement rather than providing one shred of proof of such. You cant argue that the bar OBVIOUSLY needs to be set much higher for an OTC drug, so instead you turn to the comfort of the baseless blanket statement.

 

He was also impressed by Deepak Chopra. He's also featured Joe Mercola (hmm... where have we heard that name before...) and, of all people, John Edwards. I'm sorry, but if you think a TV doctor who has endorsed damn near as much woo as Oprah has is a good source, we're back to what I said in post 87.

Great! Then offer them as evidence! It's not enough to say "they exist", you know. How about a list? Preferably featuring the time when the patent ran out, the time when it became available over the counter, and the name of the drug at the very least.

 

Sounds like Apricot salesmen to me......

 

I watched the movie again today with my wife. She was shocked that all this could happen in the USA!

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/11/burzynski-the-movie.aspx

The Great Cancer Hoax: The Brilliant Cure the FDA Tried Their Best to Shut Down...

 

Yes....and I would certainly promote MSM and Glyconutrients and trace minerals as well!

Salesman is a rather harsh term though because I don't own shares in any company that sells any of these products!?

 

So... a documentary by the known bull(*)(*)(*)(*) artist Mercola? I'm sorry, but you still trust that guy? After it's been shown how incredibly full of (*)(*)(*)(*) he is? Really? I'll take a look at it later, but I'd bet 100:1 odds that it's full of utterly false claims and conspiracy-mongering, with a bibliography about a tenth as long as it needs to be.

 

You tube........'nuff said

 

I actually thought for a moment that "The Great Cancer Hoax" was the title of the movie, and that Burzynski was somehow related... Turned out it's just, well, his movie. 100 minutes of conspiracy theories and bad science. The FDA tried to shut him down... But somehow, they keep approving clinical trials. Only thing is, he's only ever published one. And when other doctors looked into his results, they could not replicate them. And he's touting his drug as a cure for cancer? If your trustworthiness threshhold is that low, then you'll fall for damn near every medical scam. This isn't even really about Burzynski - he could be totally right (although ever indication is that he's really not), but the fact is that he needs to put in a hell of a lot more legwork, and stop acting so creepy in the process.

 

Both my wife and I commented after seeing the film that if we or anybody in our family were diagnosed with cancer we would get in contact with Dr. Burzynski's clinic to see if we could become part of one of the tests!

 

Actually it is on Vimeo and it worked great on our computer screen, just as good as the Netflix movies we view!

The first version of the film that I saw was on Youtube but they were duplicates. That link takes you into the official version. If you don't view it yourself I can only chalk that up to extreme intellectual cowardise!!!!!

This statement about "millions of lives" sure seems accurate to me!

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/06/11/burzynski-the-movie.aspx

 

The statistics table didn't past perfectly. Here is the actual stats:

 

In the forty years since "antineoplastons" were extracted from urine, there has been no convincing evidence that they actually do anything.

 

In the ??? years since Colonel Klinck was extracted from semen same result.

Sorry just couldn't help myself.

 

And you believe Mercola, when he brings up the conspiratorial nonsense he does? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Once again, Mercola brings up the results from the only tests Burzynski ever went public with (out of 62!), but does not cite their sources so that we could examine them, and fails to note that when other scientists tried this, they could not replicate Burzynski's results. At all. The Japanese National Cancer Institute couldn't replicate them either - are they also bought out by big pharma? Is it starting to make sense why the FDA would be skeptical? What, with the numerous violations of protocol, the endless phase 2 test with no end in sight, and countless other issues like this surrounding Burzynski? Oh, by the way, you remember that video from C0nc0rdance I linked earlier with regards to Dr. Burzynski? The one where he respectfully tackled the issue? Well, guess what: it got taken down by false flag DMCA claims. I'm sorry, but if you think cheating the system and bullying others into agreeing you is a sign of good science, then you have another thing coming.

And yet somehow, despite all of this, despite the fact that Burzynski's results have never been replicated by anyone outside of his business, despite the fact that the FDA has had countless real problems with him and his clinic, and have expressed these as such, despite the fact that the state of Texas has made it clear that he is not to distribute his unproven therapy outside of clinical trials until it gets proven, you still think the reasonable thing to do is pretend the FDA (and the NCI, and the JNCI) is bought out by big pharma. Weird.

Also, question. Let's say a company got approval for a fast-track application for a drug for a specific use, then decided to use that as a foot in the door so that they could use it off-label for numerous other uses (for which it is not approved or tested). What would your reaction be?

 

The film refers to one study led by a Dr. K...... that certainly proved that if patients were given thirty percent or less of the dosage recommended by Dr. Burzynski for that specific type of case then the patients will all die.

Can you think of another name for deliberately under dosing volunteer test subjects Colonel K....against the recommendations of the Doctor who invented the substance? What about if you forbade anybody to send updates to Dr. Burzynski....do you think that might have been to help set the stage for a large drug company to obtain the patents are a lower cost?

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Have you watched the film Stagnant?

Do you personally think that Dr. K...... is a more reliable source of information?

On the other hand I do thank you for a truly intelligent and obviously informed response that I will attempt to look into....in spite of the fact that I am a janitor....not a doctor or scientist?

 

He's a quack. Of course he blames others for the failings of his snake-oil. Big Pharma is conspiring against him, it couldn't just be that it doesn't work. I'm not a doctor, but I know a fake when I see one.

 

I just came across a scientific take on his magic cure.

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2011/12/12/what-dr-stanislaw-burzynski-doesnt-want/

 

Stagnant, can you understand why both my wife and I, after watching the film, decided that we would prefer to take our chances with Dr. Burzynski's treatments if we were in the future diagnosed with cancer?

All of us die sooner or later and we were powerfully affected by the testimony of Sargeant Rick Schiff that his daughter died.....CANCER FREE.......as shown in the autopsy......because apparently Dr. Burzynski's anti-neoplastons had gotten rid of her cancer....but ....the chemotherapy and radiation treatments had already done so much damage that his daughter died.....but NOT FROM CANCER....but instead from the side effects of radiation and chemo!!!???

If you are a doctor, as I suspect you might be or might soon be, and if YOU had a patient who decided to go with Dr. Burzynski rather than radiation and chemo....would YOU support them in their freedom to make this decision, even if they were going against your advice?

 

Thank you Colonel K for this link. I had been sent this one in another discussion. The author certainly seems to be more objective than many skeptics but it also seems that he does have some bias against Dr. Burzynski. I suspect that this writer will do a much better job within a year or two!

(What Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski doesn’t want you to know about antineoplastons
Posted by Orac on December 12, 2011)

I wonder would he write essentially the same thing at this time as he did over a year ago!!?????

 

Wow!

I just heard the explanation from a high ranking official in the American government as to why the Dr. Burzynski treatments CANNOT be honestly written about!!!!

If the Dr. Burzynski treatments were honestly reported.......the big drug companies would drop in share prices.....and another crash similar to 2008 is feared......He is said to have stated that we could not deal with this.....for another ten years at least.....it is just TOO BIG!!!!!

Listen to what is said just after 14 minutes!!!!!

https://www.burzynskimovie.com
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