Do you Trust Religious or Non-Religious people more?

Now I will address the outstanding issues in your post.
Punishment does nothing for a person, as I said, the fear of punishment only brings about attrition, not true remorse. The best way to warn a child or adult about wrong is to explain why such and such is deemed wrong and should not be done, then leave it to the individual to make the decision whether or not they will commit the act in the future.

Natural Man is a moral being because his knowledge (Divine Knowledge) causes awareness of the inescapable universal law of cause and effect, which is the second law of creation.

Liberalism does not nor has it ever considered natural man good. Liberalism has always viewed man as weak and flawed, especially after the introduction of Charles Darwin's thesis and Theory of Evolution, equating Man to an animal. Your buddy A random man is an excellent example of how Liberals view Natural Man.

It is moral man, ancient man who considers Man as a morally conscious being, especially an intelligent and enlightened man who has moral foundation, i.e. principles.

 

Wrong.

Jesus and most if not all the Middle East "prophets, sons of gods and various other loons" were very likely if not outright assuredly "Blasted out of their mind High" on DMT from ingesting the local, common acacia tree which contains the most powerful hallucinogenic known to man, DMT, in super high amounts.

Numerous authors and videos go into this in much greater detail than I care to but it does add up if you think about. Talk to any hardcore drug user or watch them online and you will very quickly find that they almost all have stories (that they actually believe were real) where they either became god or were in direct communication with god and or god(s). They weren't obviously, it was the drugs they were on, point being they truly believe they were and literally if you ever watch a video of one it's part and parcel the same **** that's in the Bible or every other "holy book". It's all delusional crap from being high. The only difference is these guys named Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed and others decided to write **** down or tell others to. That doesn't make them gods or divine. It makes them perhaps ingenious psychedelic users but nothing else.



Research the Aztec shamans and or priests. All used drugs heavily. What a surprise.

 

Say what you please and makes your feel comfy, I am not concerned with your preposterous assumptions about what you obviously wish to distort to fulfill your own agenda. I have my way and you have yours. Why is it that you Liberals cannot stand to let things be that you do not agree with?Is it because you are a miserable people and wish everyone to enjoin in your misery with you? Or is it that you seek to gain mastery over others? Either way, what you say has no effect on me atall. Those who you know as Aztec Shaman, where expelled from the East for that very thing. I suppose that you do not know that beer or ale was invented in Kemet (Ancient Egypt) but the people noticed the ill-effect that ti was having on society, so they collectively banned it. See, people of decency, refrain from that which has a negative effect on society as a whole, unlike you Liberals, who are actually the degenerates who where rejected from the overall society, and now that you and your ilk have gained the upper-hand, or so you think, you seek to rub your perversity in the face of those who reject it. War like you are, not a people of peace atall. So be happy in your world of delusion and illusion, it still does not make right your waywardness.
As for the numerous authors and videos, stating this, that or the other, it does not matter in the realistic scope of things. Those videos, books and article give THEIR OPINIONS and NOT FACT; complete conjecture, and conjecture is a lie, so they are liars and you follow liars and their lies, typical.

 

I'm not Jewish though I have nothing against Jews in the slightest. I give most Jewish people this (I say most because some are crazy just like all other religious people), out of all the religious nutjobs (and I live in Texas, I'm surrounded by wannabe Christian Nazis every single day) Jewish people on average are the most rational and science based people, even to their own religion.

Credit should be given where credit is due I feel. Carl Sagan is a good example. Though certainly there are many rational Atheists who were raised as Christians such as myself (Catholic), a majority of Jewish people seem to be far more educated than most from other religions.

 

Do you have any relatives or friends who are religious, and do you treat them like this and say these awful things to them? Do you think your religious friends and family members are delusional and crazy or comparable to a drug user? I don't believe either and at times, I do like to challenge the belief, but why do you have to be insulting about it? I find belief in religion to be no more "delusional" than a man who believes he is a woman.

 

No doubt because you treat all people with dignity and respect.

 

I think most people subconsciously know that they don't know what ever it is they believe is really true or not at some level. It seems like you are trying really darn hard to shove your agenda of no God existing down everyone's throat. Maybe deep down you know by the law written in your heart that God exist and this is your way of trying to get it out of your system?

In any case I think people know that being gay is just a sexual fetish and that transgenderism is a delusion but everyone has choices to make. Also that Trustworthiness has many factor's, is built over time and that a persons Religion or lack of Religion has nothing to do with it.

 

Go ahead and say it. You can't hurt my feelings. I already KNOW that I'm an attractive lady.

Are you going to try and say that I look like a man again? Go ahead. Say it. And while you're at it, post one of yourself. Obviously you won't because you are a cowardly little man with emphasis on the word "little." Lol!

 

If I report and show the mods the copies of your posts that I have that you already made, you will probably be banned. I mean really, talk about a blatant personal attack on a female and trying to pick on a woman's appearance no less. I bet you thought I would run away crying or something, you tiny little man. Lol. Even though I'm not a man, I could probably kick your sorry butt as good as one!

 

Respectfully I disagree. I'm not forcing non-religion on anyone I'm just making better points as are the other secularists and the religious dislike this is all.

I am an atheist I do not subscribe to any religion or belief in a fake human created god. Sorry to disappoint (well not really but if it makes you feel better I can say that).

 

thanks chris

 

I've posted my views on religion MANY times on this forum, and in fact, I posted it in the thread as well.

 

You are very welcome.

 

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Neither. People are going to be people no matter what religion has to say. Look at the ones who call themselves "christians" that supported Trump in direct contradiction to the tenets of Christianity.

Exodus 18:21 for an example "Furthermore, you shall select out of all the people able men who fear God, men of truth, those who hate dishonest gain; and you shall place these over them as leaders of thousands, of hundreds, of fifties and of tens."

 

You were doing pretty good until you had to get that partisan lie in there. I guess Trump is your example of a "real man".

 

Nope. I'm not crazy about Trump as a person. I don't like arrogant jerks. However, that has little to do with this most recent election. The choices were horrible.

 

Choice: Arrogant jerky reality TV star or career criminal politician.

 

Well, I was referring to this conversation, and your reference to what your assume to be the "typical liberal man".

As to the election, I voted for Darrel Castle a real American patriot.

 

Well, you asked if I considered Trump to be a real man. No, I really don't. I couldn't stand being around that man for more than 10 minutes, I'm sure. I don't care about how much money he has either. If I don't like somebody, I just can't fake like them. That's not how I roll.

 

She sounds like a wonderful person ChrisL and you are too and don't you forget it. I think it's great that you are not religious but I totally agree with you, religious people are awesome people. Just wrong is all. But still awesome.

 

I don't trust anyone who doesn't believe in something...

 

But I believe in so much more as an Atheist than you or any Theist believes in. And I mean that with all respect. But come the **** on. You know it's true. I know there is a giant universe full of billions of Universes, and we are just one of those universes, one of billions if not infinite.

I believe and or know of so much more than you even accept in your mind just in that above that I typed. Surely you see that truth.

 

You just proved my meme true.


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