Does Religious Freedom Supercede Gender Identity?

The act of molestation reveals the true nature of the individual responsible for committing the act. Not what they claim, not what they do otherwise, but the act of molestation itself. If the victim of the molestation is the same gender as the one who committed the act, then the one who committed the act is homosexual.

 

Ignore their preconceived misconceptions about the world. A male individual who believes they are actually female, is no more valid in their belief than an individual suffering from paranoid schizophrenia who believes the government is reading their thoughts when they do not have tinfoil on their head, or who believes extraterrestrials are sending them encrypted messages through their dental implants.

Individuals who suffer from eating disorders such as anorexia or bulimia believe they are morbidly obese, even when their physical condition could be accurately described as being one of skin and bones. Yet there is no effort being made to pander to their delusions and confirm that their beliefs are accurate. Instead their conditions are treated as being a danger to their well being and addressed through other means, to help them realize their preconceived notion of themselves is factually incorrect. Why should body and/or gender dysmorphia be treated any differently, as if it were a valid physical issue?

 

I don’t understand the question, this has nothing to do with “benefitting their rights”, it is about being a decent human being.

Numerous states have moved to allow medical professionals and therapists the ability to deny service to homosexuals and transsexuals. Try again.

Self identified homosexuality is reaching 8% as of the last polling — actual numbers are much higher. You have zero statistically relevant or unbiased data that shows self identified homosexuals are more likely to harm a child.

 

So we should ignore their suffering until they potentially commit suicide — so that you don’t have to refer to a person as mam or sir?

Such a shameful self-centered and disgusting narrative.

Because gender dysphoria can be treated to almost virtually remove the negative aspects of the disorder — save from a handful of bigots that exist solely to make the lives of others as miserable as their own. The same can not be said for the others you listed.

 

Part of "being a decent human being" means telling a person that they are wrong when they are wrong, rather than letting them believe that they are right when they are not. Allowing a person to walk into oncoming traffic because they cannot tell the difference between a red light and green light is not being a decent human being. Forcing them to stop so they are not injured as a result of their own stupidity, even if it requires telling them that they are stupid, is far more decent than allowing a delusion to flourish.

Cite the evidence of such.

Unless the act of molestation occurred in a homosexual manner, meaning both the victim and the perpetrator are of the same gender.

 

How does feeding a delusion serve to help anyone? Should a minor who believes they can fly by leaping from a tall building be encouraged to attempt such, simply because they believe it to be true?

It is a mental disorder, no different from schizophrenia. It should be treated as such, rather than pandered to in the name of making the afflicted feel normal and accepted. The afflicted need actual help, not having their delusions pandered to as if they were real.

 

For that matter you have as much right to call a cis male "she".

 

Please show me where in the bible that dictates you have to address anyone by their pronoun you think is correct?

 

I'm absolutely amazed that you won't even consider bisexual as a potential.

 

Why are they wrong? How does them transitioning harm them if it brings alleviates their condition?

Who do you believe you are helping by refusing to refer to them as a male or female?

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Again, the vast majority of male-male molestation is done by men that identify and live as heterosexual.
The percentage of self identified homosexuals that molest boys is not significantly higher than the general population, how does banning gay couples reduce anything besides being a rallying cry for people that dislike gay people?

 

Such is not considered because it is not relevant to the matter of the crime that is being committed, that being molestation of a minor. The criminal act reveals the true nature of the individual, not the false veneer they present for the public to view in an effort to hide their actions. If the one who commits the molestation chooses a victim of the same gender, then it is an act of homosexual-related molestation. The fact they may be married to a member of the opposite sex changes nothing, as homosexuals have historically been married in an effort to appear heterosexual.

 

Or that homosexuals or heterosexuals are not attracted to children, pedophiles are attracted to children.

 

no it doesn't.

you are welcome to hold that incorrect opinion, but you will remain incorrect. Both terms are defined. Homosexual is an adult orientation. Attraction to a prepubescent child is different than adult orientations. The vast majority of men who abuse boys are heterosexual. This is just reality.

 

A child would be injured doing that — how is a transgender person injured by being referred to as the gender they feel they are emotionally?

And what type of help do you believe the need? Schizophrenia is treated with pharmaceuticals, pharmaceuticals have shown not to alleviate the suffering of many people with GID or gender dysphoria — only surgery does. What should the treatment be in your medical opinion?

 

Because they are. Just as a cat is not a turtle simply because it moves at a slow pace of speed.

How does an individual starving themselves serve to harm them if it brings alleviation to the belief they are morbidly obese when they are in fact underweight?

Those that are actually in need of help. Validating delusions does not help anyone, it only serves to victimize them further.

Why is it necessary for individuals to label themselves as homosexual when seeking services? Why is there the perceived need to disclose such irrelevant facts that have no bearing on the services being sought?

Simply because they wish to believe there is nothing wrong with them, does not mean that belief is valid.

Such is not presently being discussed. It is merely being pointed out that molesting a child of the same gender makes the individual a homosexual by default, as the nature of the crime reveals the nature of the individual.

 

I have to correct this. No, not only surgery does. In some cases, GID can be alieviated simply by presenting as the gender. In other cases, top alteration is the furthest that needs to be gone, either surgical or hormonal augmentation or surgical reduction. And in the rest, the full SRS surgery is necessary. And most professionals will work those stages to ensure that only what is needed to alieviate is done.

 

Such a preposterous copout. So let’s say we have a male who is a pedophile and he has sex with a 15 year old boy. They engage in a relationship and the boy turns 18. Does the pedophile magically become a homosexual on the 18 year olds birthday?

Let’s say they stay together until the kid is 20 years old and they break up and the homosexual finds him another underage boy to have sex with. Does he magically turn back into a pedophile and cease to be a homosexual?

 

That’s not what I asked you. Whether you believe minorities should have special status or not, they do. So if a white person identifies as black, does he or she qualify for minority status and benefits?

 

By lending credence to the belief that their delusion is reality when it is not. It locks them into a mental cycle of believing their delusion is confirmed as being fact, making it impossible for them to move beyond such.

The afflicted need whatever help is necessary for them to come to terms with the fact their delusions are wrong, and enable them to move on past the point of believing their delusions defines who they are, what they are, and limits them from being able to move beyond the confines of their delusion.

Mutilation of the body does not bring alleviation to the one suffering from the delusion of gender dysphoria. The number of individuals who have continued suffering even after such surgeries demonstrates that it is neither a cure, nor a treatment to the affliction, as it does not bring them the happiness and peace of mind they are seeking.

 

I’m not sure how you don’t understand the question given that I was using the exact verbiage of YOUR definition of the word harassment.

“Moving to do so” does not equal doing it. How about you try again.

I provided you with a government source. I can provide in fact as many as you’d like. But your liberal poll doesn’t prove anything. Regardless according to that number they STILL only represent 4% of the total population and as such are still GROSSLY overrepresented in regards to child molestation.

 

Both of these are detrimental to the individuals health, not treating it likely reduces their lifespan, freedom and happiness — the opposite is true of gender dysphoria. Treating it with surgery improves their life — it does not diminish it.

You keep dodging the question, How does them transitioning harm them if it brings alleviates their condition?

That is false, rates of depression and suicide plummet after gender affirming surgery. You are making false claims without evidence to justify your narrative.

It might come up with a doctor of therapist. Have you ever been to a doctor? They ask tons of questions that would indicate your orientation. I love that you demand evidence and once presented with it you make a new excuse.

There is something wrong with them, they know there is something wrong with them, that is why they have the surgery.

Except it doesn’t, but your opinion is noted.

 

First if he is a pedophile then he will not be attracted to a 15 year old. That would be a ephebephile. Pedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children, up to 11.

Secondly, there is not a claim that a homosexual cannot be a pedophile. There is just a refutation that an overwhelming majority of pedophiles are homosexual.

 

No several in here are claiming they can’t. They’re asserting that once they become attracted to children the sex of the victim is irrelevant. Which is patently absurd.

And I’ll be happy to start with age 11 and move to 18. You still didn’t address the question.

 

Legally, that depends on a myriad of factors and what state the individuals reside it. First off, age 15 - 18 is ephebophilia, if the individual was an actual pedophile (attracted to prepubescent children) it is highly unlikely the “relationship” would continue past this age. If it did — legal speaking, yes the act would go from child abuse to an adult homosexual act.

No one is saying that heterosexuals or homosexuals (or bisexuals) cannot also be pedophiles — just that pedophilia is not an act of heterosexuality or homosexuality. It is a separate attraction. So no, not a copout — just poor understanding on your part.

Since he is attracted to adult males as well as children he is both a homosexual (or bisexual) as well as a pedophile or ephebophile depending on the victims age.

 

Except they are not — you are trying to state that all acts of male - male child abuse makes the assailant a homosexual, even when they identify as heterosexual. You are then correlating that number of victimizations against the number of self identified homosexuals.

It’s intellectually dishonest.