Don's Stalinist purge has begun

I want the people who work for me to support me. They can voice their objections to me. But they don't voice their objections to the rest of the world. They either work for me or they should find employment elsewhere.

 

This quote comes from Vindman's attorney's statement...........

"LTC Alexander Vindman leaves the White House today. But we must not accept the departure of truth, duty, and loyalty that he represents. In this country right matters, and so does truth. Truth is not partisan. If we allow truthful voices to be silenced, if we ignore their warnings, eventually there will be no one left to warn us."

The point being...........Vindman isn't a rat. Trump is the rat.........he was seeking to corrupt the most sacred element of our democracy.........an election.

 

Vindman's a rat.

He had a political ax to grind, and he jumped his chain of command to throw it at Trump. He missed.

Vindman's a notorious "chow thief" and he's a political activist in a uniform.

His military career is basically over. It doesn't matter how many bleeding heart anti-Trumpers worship him and admire his rattery, he'll never be anything but a rat to his fellow soldiers, and that is not a thing you want to be when you're serving in the military.

 

Actually, he didn't jump his chain of command. He went through proper channels when he reported the disturbing things the Bigot-in-Chief said during the Zelensky call. He then responded to a legal subpoena to testify to what he heard.

There is no evidence he had a "political ax to grind." Claiming he did indicates the smear campaign launched against him worked among Trumpette's. He didn't "miss." His intention was simply to report the improper nature of what he heard.

Your problem with him is he told the truth about your Dear Leader. Full stop.

 

Rat.

Period

 

My point is If you were Trump you would have booted him too. Nobody likes working around someone who was a informant, rat, whistleblower or whatever term you prefer. It’s just human nature.

This “high and mighty moral” stand of the Dems is transparent as hell. This was a politically motivated attempt to unseat an elected POTUS by them. Their attempts to portray it as defending the COTUS is not working. Many see it as just the opposite in fact.

Either way it failed, and failed badly. The fallout will occur between now and November.

Nobody is being shot behind the White House regardless of how many Stalin references are made...it’s just more bitter grandstanding after the acquittal by the left To try and gain some kind of negative impact for Trump. In other words politics as usual on both sides. The left contrary to their puffed out chest do not hold the moral high ground on this.

Hell the previous DNC poster boy Biden hands are dirty as hell gaining personal advantage from his position. Might want to address that if your calling out Trump for using his position for personal gain.

 

Vindman was reassined to the Pentagon and Sondland (who serves at the pleasure of the President) was fired for lying about a quid pro quo. Good riddance.

 

Do you see how your blind devotion to this orange pig has corrupted your thought process? Rendering it completely incapable of rationally interpreting what is right in front of you?

 

It doesn't matter what I think about the bad Orange Man. My opinion is of no consequence to the rest of Vindman's doomed military career.

Vindman is a rat in the eyes of his fellow soldiers, and you can go shake your shame shame finger at them if you don't like it.

I'm just telling you how it is. Whether you choose to rationally interpret the truth of it is up to you. You do you.

 

Putting aside your assumptions, my point is this kind of behavior, both the call and the retribution, from the POTUS is unacceptable.

Esper says 'Pentagon protects its service members from retribution' amid reports of possible Vindman ouster
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/...service-members-from-retribution-amid-reports

Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Friday said the Pentagon protects its service members from retribution, following reports that President Trump may oust the top White House expert on Ukraine after he testified during House impeachment hearings.

“We protect all of our persons, service members, from retribution or anything like that. We’ve already addressed that in policy and other means,” Esper told reporters at the Pentagon during a press conference with his Colombian counterpart.
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They protect them so as not to discourage people from speaking up in the future to report unethical/immoral/illegal behavior...........FROM ANYONE IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.

Let's see if Esper is true to his word and follows policy or is cowed out of fear by Trump's authoritarian, vindictive tendencies.

 

On the contrary, he is a decorated vet who fulfilled his duty to the nation by telling the truth. President Bonespurs is a coward who defends war criminals and interferes with the established processes of military justice.

Trump grants clemency to troops in three controversial war crimes cases
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/...oops-in-three-controversial-war-crimes-cases/

 

The more attention Bonespur's ouster of Vindman gets the more vehement Don's smearing of Vindman will be. The rule of thumb here is..................never believe a word Don spews or a tweet he writes until you can verify it.

"In a pair of tweets, Trump asserted he has never met Vindman but cast him as a rogue underling at the NSC who undermined his superiors, even though a lawyer for Vindman said he received “exemplary” reviews during his White House service."

 

Seems Atwater thinks Trump should keep the people who do not want to support his administration on payroll, along with the incompetents that would stand in the way of progress. Now why would a left-sympathizer advocate that? Because such people are like moles or termites, doing the same damage from the inside that they are trying to do from the outside. Those people are working for the opposition- not the team they are part of. Trump's mistake was in not canning a lot more of them on day one; but he generously assumed that someone like Vindman, as a soldier and officer would understand the duties of his own commission and oath. Vindman of course, was also offered the job of Minister of Defense for the Ukraine.... AND Vindman IS Ukraine by birth. If those connections don't cause you concern for what is behind his actions, you are a very naive person- or a left sympathizer that questions nothing if it can be used for your advantage.

When you serve the president- at his pleasure, as the legal saying goes- he has the right to fire anyone for any reason. And more importantly, HE SHOULD, he would be errant if he did not. The swamp is composed of bureaucrats as well as others, and when your objective is to clean it up, part of what you must do as soon as possible is remove people who are part of the swamp society from your clean-up team.

Trumps enemies will always be trying to slander, allege wrongdoing and turn proper acts into criminal acts. They do this because they lack character, because they fear the loss of power that is provided by this swamp of corruption and special privilege- and because they need to keep the attention of those who they con into supporting them focused on Trump.... lest they look in their own house and find the real horror lives there.

Trump wins again. LA logic is as durable as the water in your toilet- it has to be flushed and replaced frequently, because it contributes nothing to our greater good.

 

Do you think any of those people care about being "smeared by right wing media and the POS in the Oval Office?" That makes them heroes to the establishment and media at large. I don't see the Stalinist comparison. Obama fired all the US attorney's in taking office as did Clinton, and barely a peep about "Stalinist purges."

It seems the real trick is that if you fire everyone immediately than it's nothing to see here, but if you fire them piecemeal, than it's a "Stalinist purge."

The truth is that the President has a right to fire a lot of people, and one if his biggest flaws is that he didn't do this on day one. If Vindman, Sondland, or Yovanovitch disagreed with the President's policy on the Ukraine, that is a reason to fire them. The President gets to set foreign policy, and he gets to fire those who work to undermine his policies. If you are worried about someone speaking out don't worry, there have been well targeted leaks throughout the President's term, and that will continue. Luckily for you, you only have to worry about this for a little less than a year and then there will be a Democratic President who will fire all of Trump's hires on day one, and you'll be fine with that right?

 

Trump is crap when dealing with the military. Always has been IMO. One of the reasons I don’t like him. But he is better for the military than any of the folks on the left IMO. The squid Buttigieg might be the only exception. But empowering the left politically never works out well for the military.

He is a good POTUS overall and i hope he gets re elected. The fact that the other choice might very well be a proclaimed socialist even more so.

 

Stalin, as Hitler, was an absolute dictator and conqueror - hardly a liberal. Your attempt to paint him as such, destroys your credibility. You have been exposed to a litany of factual information of retribution. Recently, Trump fired Vindman's brother.

 

Well then, it should hold a special place in your heart

 

Right, cuz Iraq worked out perfectly for them.

 

Failed attempts at snark really don't get the job done.

 

Stalin and Hitler were both ego maniacs. Trump is as well.

Trump is not Hitler or Stalin in actions at all. People are idiots who compare Trump with men who killed millions upon millions of their own country men. It’s just basic 3rd grade name calling mentality. No substance at all.

 

Go back and read the transcript of Marie Yovanovitch's testimony for the answer to your question.

 

You won’t or can’t see the big picture. Do you have a connection to the military?

 

Apparently, I need to refer you to the first sentence of the OP.

"To be clear, I acknowledge the use of the term "Stalinist" is a bit hyperbolic.........but I thought it was appropriate since Trumpette's threw it around so loosely (and inaccurately) in referring to the impeachment hearings in the House."

 

What act, in your opinion, could be worse for the military than sending them in harm's way unnecessarily and ill-equipped?

 

The use is widespread well beyond this thread. I was not intending to point that comment at you directly. I should have been more clear, sorry.

I don’t really care who “started it”, both sides should tone down the references to it as it’s just stupid.

Whatever the outcome in November is the turnover of power will be a peaceful one. Some loud protest, some really vocal pissed off people, a few sucker punches thrown here or there, a burnt car etc. But to compare that to the death and destruction of the Hitler and Stalin is foolish.