End Affirmative Action. Yes / No & Why

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Should Affirmative Action be ended? Including diversity considerations.

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    colin powell says he would never be where he is today if it hadn’t been for affirmative action.
     
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    Pay Obama's Sa-I-Gu responsibility tax. That lets you go to college without seeing any blacks. The sa-i-gu tax keeps the marauders satiated, they buy warpaint.
     
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    This is such a Boomer thing to say it is almost as if you are knowingly making fun of them. :laughing:

    Even if you do, you are clueless on how to interpret the history because you are blinded by your ideological bias and political agenda.
     
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    The man is a politician and obviously has an agenda to create a false, fairy tale narrative of "Without us Congressmen, minorities would not get anywhere in life."

    Affirmative Action does not fight discrimination. There is an inbuilt paradox in "Anti Discrimination Laws" that is you cannot fight discrimination without being guilty of discrimination. However, the main issue with Affirmative Action is not that it contains a logical paradox, but rather that it is a notion that assumes a person is only to be judged by their sex, race and ethnicity.

    As Thomas Sowell has proven in his research, Affirmative Action does not have much of an impact at all on the group they are intended to assist.
     
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    yep, I was blinded then too..lol. And look what happened! . I don’t make fun of the men and women who fought for women’s rights. And you keep saying that we shouldn’t look in the past. Abortion is a perfect example. I fought long and hard for women’s reproductive freedom and I can see history repeating itself with men wanting to control us again by limiting our rights.
     
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    See, I'm going to link the economy of the allocation of limited resources upon your striving merits of , 'oah I shouldn'a done thaaaat'. Obama 2021 ,you All shouldn't had done that now I don't know who I am, we're all Americans, don't divide, ya American, so keep your heads down... Its a sacrifice you're willing to make. Get out the vote.
     
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    Aren't you just perfect? Here, have a cookie.
     
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    Which exists entirely in her choice to enage (or not) in unprotected sex, now that marital rape etc are outlawed.
     
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    That's true, marital rape and studying for college. Get on your computer and sit there!
     
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    Translation please?
     
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    What is it?! Does this forum exist, does my interaction exist, because I can't leave, until crank hears I am a marital mouth rapist? Then I am. I'm a marital mouth rapist. Now you can go ban yourself.
     
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    Do you need a coffee? Maybe some quiet time in a garden?
     
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    maybe you're not looking for it, but this is progress for investigators, or the college, or parents or somebody, everybody. everybody needs a forum concerning wetnoodle. I got a lot of wetnoodle.
     
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    you could be sure that’s one thing I could never say about you :bonk:
     
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    What is it that you so often say about sarcasm flying over the head?
     
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    Do you really think I didn’t know you were being sarcastic? Oh my God but on the other hand maybe I am perfect
     
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    Merit, not race.
     
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    Are you saying that the African-Americans and women do not have merit? Did you say that about white man who didn’t have to compete with minorities and women?
     
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    It's amazing how often this "affirmative action" thing comes up as a thread topic.

    Simply put, "affirmative action" is nothing more, or less, than a mechanism to promote unfairness and inequality among the races. It deliberately and unashamedly advocates giving some citizens an unfair, undeserved advantage, while putting other citizens at a disadvantage -- BASED PURELY ON RACE! Call it what it is -- REVERSE DISCRIMINATION....

    The United States put the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 into rock-solid law to establish, finally, and for all time, the total and complete EQUALITY OF ALL THE RACES BEFORE THE LAW. Then, just a few years later, this "affirmative action" thing came bubbling up from the minds of those who have no grasp of the concept of genuine equality and fairness at all, and it continues to exist to this day....
     
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    Reverse discrimination would be making you sit in the back of the bus because you’re white .. denying you admission to harvard, Yale, Princeton...because you are male. These groups have been denied equality for hundreds of years while white makes had the whole field. . Did you see them as less qualified?
     
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    Isn't the :flagus: world improving?

    Isn't it time to rate merit and not racism, genderism, etc.ism

    I do not view Affirmative Action a success witnessing S.W. Los Angeles remains. California has had equal opportunity housing since the sixties.
    S.W. Los Angeles where Jackie Brown was filmed. (see blaxploitation thread opinions) :)
     
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    BTW

    Is there anyone who witnesses a White Male News lead
    on CBS, ABC, NBC ?

    Imagine Walter Cronkite unemployed. ;)
     
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    Do I see which groups as "less qualified"...?! Re-read your post, Renee, because you didn't altogether make much sense.

    Look -- what I'm talking about is not ancient history, like when the Roman Empire conquered my German ancestors and took them as slaves. I'm not talking about when one tribe of Sub-Saharan Black Africans conquered other tribes of Black Africans and took them as slaves, either. And, I'm not referring to a more recent time when Black African conquerors took their Black African slaves and sold them to waves of European explorers and traders!

    I'm talking about the United States of America, which forever made all American citizens EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW, with the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965! Thus, for over 54 years we've wiped away the old 'Jim Crow' days and all the bad times of segregating American society. GOOD! Fifty-four years ago, we removed discrimination against any citizen solely because of RACE!

    But... then along came "Affirmative Action", which was nothing but "Reverse-Discrimination"! And so, we simply replaced one wrong with another... and your faction approves of that?!

    Why don't you just come out into the light of day and admit it, Renee? Admit that by supporting a scam like affirmative-action, you approve of and endorse bald-faced RACISM!
     
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    why do you assume there isn’t merit? Did you assume that when there was white male affirmative action?
     
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    No.
    I'm just advocating no color coded bean counters
    effecting our lives today.

    Color Coded Bean Counters, inclusive of genderism, sexual preference,
    and all such considerations beyond - merit for the application.
     
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