Epic Fail: Rachel Maddow Mocked After Dragging Out Trump Tax ‘Scoop’

The DNC has no requirement for parity. NONE, NADA, ZILCH. They are a PRIVATE organization.

Wasserman Schultz is an idiot, but she "resigned" because the DNC was trying to save face. She did not resign for any legal reason, she resigned due to the PR hit the DNC took over this. It has become some urban myth that the DNC and the RNC are some government entity that runs their party. They are not, they are the PRIVATELY HELD financial arm of the party, and he who controls the purse strings controls the candidates.The DNC and the RNC control the lions share of the moneys the candidates receive, THAT is their power. But let me say again, the DNC and the RNC are not parity bound to the candidates.

The RNC did the very same thing. The gave more money to some candidate than others. THAT in itself shows that they are not parity bound.

Bernie wasn't cheated. Bernie lost the popular vote by almost 4 million votes. That being said, yes, the DNC favored Hillary, but the DNC's only power is that of the purse.

I never claimed that the DNC didn't favor Hillary. But that is not "cheating" Bernie Sanders. Look at it this way, why do you think that a third party candidate never really makes a difference in the Presidential Race......its because they don't have the money. The RNC and the DNC are necessary evils in the election. I hate both of them. They are the puppeteers, but make no mistake, they are are 2 sides of the same coin

 

Can you say, "Tony Rezko"? http://www.wnd.com/2011/04/289529/

 

That's the beauty of having a "charitable foundation". It keeps your dealings at arms length. (Wink wink). Bill and Hillary have been around long enough that they know very well how to get rid of the smoking guns.

As to Trump, either the release of tax returns is a requirement of presidential candidates, or it's not. At this time, it's not. Donald Trump decided not to release his returns, and people voted for him anyway. So keep harping if you must, but don't expect your concerns over Trump's tax returns to go anywhere. As I say, I'm all for keeping an eye on the Trump administration to be sure they don't run into conflict issues, but this idea that his taxes are a must see is simply untrue. But as I say, keep harping if it makes you feel better...

 

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The problem is what did Trump owe the Russian oligarch for in order fir the the Russian oligarch who is tied in with Putin as all Russian oligarchs are. Do you think that the Russian oligarch overpaid for that property because he us stupid? Do you not see that every timevwe turn we find another connection with Russians. So are you Trumpeizdas convinced yet that Trump is owned by Putin and the Russians or do you still have your heads buried in sand.

The trump supporters do not believe Russia has a time machine to jump 9 years into the future to see that trump would pull off the biggest upset in American history in regards to the presidency. The trump supporters know that businessmen like trump tries to make a profit all over the world and has and they are aware Russia is no longer the USSR and americans have done deals in Russia ever since the fall of the USSR and communism was replaced with capitalism. The only bad thing about this is that the communists who were not experienced in capitalism were taught by American elites who showed them the oligarchy form of capitalism where the elites get rich by exploitation of other human beings and the elites in Russia learned it very well.

Trump unlike politicians like Obama and Hillary cannot be owned, instead he is used to owning others. Which is one of the many reasons he pulled off the biggest upset in presidential elections. No one owns trump and this has created what looks to be a soft coup, by appearances. If not for this hatred from the Hillary supporters, they would be able to see that. Hatred always wrecks judgment, and trumps rationality and critical thinking. This can be seen in every trumped up Trump post coming from your tribe. So, the fools live in the Hillary tribe, not with trump supporters. But hey, you guys were wrong with what the election outcome would be, and were so arrogantly certain. After licking your wounds you come back with even more prophesies, figuring if you make enough of them one will come true just from the odds.

 

Right?
Hilarious!
Trump paid the feds 38 million dollars in one year!
And he paid 25.3% - more generously than anyone named. Bernie paid 13.5%.
Looks like he is rich after all.

 

Well said.

You don't see any of the Trumpsters complaining about the fact that the only reason he got the nomination was because of winner take all primaries, which are hardly democratic at all.

 

All was saw was two pages of a tax return that ran to several thousand pages. We still don't know what business entities he reported income or losses from. Who he owes money to, or who his associations are.

Of course, right wingers are happy being ignorant of these basic facts, and even defend their willfull ignorance.

 

So you're saying the DNC charter is bs? That's what the lawyers seemed to argue in court too.

Hilarious actually.

 

Actually YES.....

 

The most amazing thing is some of the libs who are defending this circus. No wonder there are scientific papers on why liberalism is a mental disorder.

 

I have a different view. There are very few virgins left. Trump was in business for decades, and moved in rarefied circles. I would totally expect there to be something there that is undesirable. I care what he is doing now -- and I like his money management style and his choice of staff and cabinet. There are plenty of people more capable than you or I to keep tabs on any illegal or untoward activity -- you have any doubts on that?

By contrast, you have lifetime civil servant politicians who become billionaires through mysterious means and are seen gallivanting around with crooks. Those questionable associations may not show up in their tax returns, but they are very real and very current.

 

Wasserman-Shultz lost her job over it and yes the pledge to be neutral to all candidates IN THE PROMARIES. And they weren't. PERIOD.

Not in the primary they don nothing of the sort, they are neutral to the candidates. The RNC gives not a penny to candidates in the primaries. They ONLY dispearse funds to whomever WINS at their convention.

Oh he most certainly was and Donna Brazille just issued an apology this week for her role in it.

YES and THAT's the issue there weren't supposed to do so, they are only to facilitate the primaries and then the convention to whomever wins they are NOT to play favorites during that stage.

Yes it clearly was.

This isn't about a third party it is about within the Democrat party and their primary not races between parties in the general election.

 

You mean in her or her husbands or their joint banking account. well where do you think they put all that money they were earning and how did all the money get into their banking accounts? We know they were worth about a hundred million, where did all that money come from?

 

He filed his FEC financial disclosure you can find it online so go look and see if he is "beholding" to a person although I never knew presidents were never to have mortgages or personal loans if that is what you mean by "beholding", and how is someone "beholding" to another nation? And of course the intelligence agencies are in agreement there is no evidence the Russians influenced the election nor colluded with the Trump campaign.

 

You know what? I don't and didn't really need to know what Trump or Hillary or what ANYONE did on their taxes to know what kind of person they'd likely make as prez. It's like looking into my student's permanent files - I've done that maybe ten times in the past 20+ years I've been a teacher. I don't need to know what's in there because after a few weeks, maybe even a couple days, I already know what kind of person they are and I don't need to look at their report cards or what other teachers wrote about them to confirm what their words and actions have already said. Trump didn't need to show me his tax returns anymore than Hilla had to show me her health records. Who and what both candidates were as potential leaders was already well known. And before you go there, I've stated before years ago that as far as Obama's birth records were concerned, I was far less concerned about where he was born and more concerned about what he was doing. So I've been pretty consistent about this issue.

The issue in this thread isn't that Trump was hiding his taxes but rather that it seems several people over at MSNBC don't appear to have any kind of clue. Rachel hypes that she has his tax returns. And what's the payoff? Two whole pages from years ago that prove Trump paid taxes. I dunno, if I were her, I wouldn't have run with this story at all. But she decided for some inexplicable reason to run with it.

The whole episode was so bizarre that I can almost see this happening: Rachel is told that the returns are there and starts the news on her Twitter or whatever it was - except she doesn't know what the returns are herself, and doesn't get them until just before showtime. She gets handed the two pages, looks at it, and ad-libs the next 20-ish minutes hoping that someone will provide more info that isn't coming, then runs outta gas and reads the two pages knowing she's got nothing - because no one actually bothered asking if what these two pages they had were worth it. They decided to run with the story without even checking to see if there WAS a story because they were just itching for a gotcha moment and their enthusiasm outran their common sense. Meanwhile Rachel has to sell it like it was a real story because she's a loyal MSNBC employee and she can't out-and-out say "Whoops! We got nuthin' - never mind!" Yeah, it's an unlikely theory, but then again, how many times have we had the press operating without doing their own due diligence and getting caught up in their own hype and self-delusion only to have their credibility crash down like a house of cards when someone else does some investigating and discovers that the story was based on lies? Well, too many as it turns out. Just recently and without my even bothering to Google a list I can name Rolling Stones and A Rape on Campus, people believing Lena Dunhams rape story, the numerous hate crimes lately that turned out to be faked, and so forth. And it just goes on and on with the press where it seems every press employee out there was absent the day they taught journalism at journalist school.

The worst part? I don't think MSNBC learned a thing from this. I don't think they realize they made a mistake. In fact, given the chance they might do it all over again. The willful ignorance you're seeing may actually be coming from MSNBC itself - ignorance of the idea that you check your story first before running it on the air. I jokingly mused years ago that Rush Limbaugh was secretly financing MSNBC so that he would have an easy target to make fun of on his show. Stunts like this have me wondering if I was closer to the truth on that than I thought.

 

I just want someone to explain how it could be true he paid no taxes for two decades (as the NYT reported) and also true he paid $38 million in 2005.

 

It's why they call it fake news. And they wonder why no one believes them.

 

It is something I don't believe any 'politician' could have done. It wasn't like no one was a skeptic prior to Trump, but he has managed to blow wind up their skirts and exposed the ugly truths beneath. So desperate for them to destroy this man, Maddow had just done herself great harm. And exposed the entire network. What other network would leave this woman on that desk, everyone knows she's as slanted and biased as it gets. Who would believe her now, it's clear from election might forward she's become unglued. What she did should be seen as a disgrace by other media outlets...Trump forces people to choose sides.

He's single handedly destroyed what remained of the media's integrity.

 

You got it in one. The MSM has for decades defined the narrative in this country. Now their power is slipping away and they know it. CNN and MSNBC are laughable as is the WaPo and NYT. They can't even control their own content now or the so called on air "talent." Pathetic doesn't even describe them.

 

I mean....even for those that enjoy watching her, she's done herself irreparable damage here. It was clear her reporting on Trump's tax returns was with biased intent, she clearly became unsettled when it was clear she was having a Geraldo moment.

Indeed, she's become a joke.

 

I saw a video clip from MSNBC on Twitter where Rachel is sitting at a desk with two men. They all had Trump's two pages before them, and they are going through trying to find something there. It was a short clip - but what I saw instantly was Rachel's body language. She was like the lost kid in class who wants to keep up but can't. She leaned forward to look at the notes made by the man sitting to her left. He commented that an interesting line item was the amount under "wages and salaries" and Rachel immediately picked up her yellow highlighter and highlighted it on her own copy. Then sat looking at it like she was trying to figure out why that meant anything. I say this to you, Stuart, because as a teacher you will immediately recognize that move, the one who just can't quite comprehend. This was after her fiasco - an attempt to legitimize her. Obviously, she doesn't know what she's talking about.

Oh yes, the guest was David Cay Johnson who inexplicably, touts prestigious awards, and the clip was posted because of DCJ's horrible statement about FLOTUS. Speculation was about the wage line in the tax return; if it might have been Melania's salary (it was a joint return). The "honorable and esteemed" DCJ made a pejorative and misogynistic comment about her that brought down another rain of wrath on MSNBC.

 

You conveniently ignored the fact that the first thing David Kay Johnson said about Trump's 1040 was that it was woefully incomplete, didn't tell us much, and probably came from Trump himself.

I can't help it if you don't know who David Kay Johnson is. But then, since you appear to get all you "news" second hand from out of context repetition on right wing blogs and Twitter, I'm not surprised.

 

You aren't helping sista Rachel much. Woefully incomplete tax return, didn't tell us much (except that Trump is a wildly successful businessman who pays much more in taxes than do his political counterparts), probably leaked by the POTUS himself.

So Mz. Maddow decided to hype it to the moon and it blew up in her face.