Erdogan; Zionism is a " crime against humanity "

Gazan installation artist putting the final touches to his exhibition at the Gaza City Arts Complex;

 

They only opened it for 4 hours:

Egypt opened the Rafah crossing for four hours,

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/25/w...egypt-opens-borders-with-gaza-strip.html?_r=0

How many goods and supplies were allowed in from the Egyptian side of the border exactly?

 

Gazans enjoying an impromptu street barbecue;

 

Quaint Palestinian locals maintaining the old traditions for visitors to the Tourist Quarter;

 

BS - Utter dreck - Palestinians are nothing more than third class citizens, discriminated against in every respect , forced to endure lowest standards of living in Israel.

"Israelis favour discrimination against Arabs - poll
A majority of Israeli Jews favour introducing discriminatory policies against the country's Arab population and would support an "apartheid" system in the West Bank if it were ever annexed, an opinion poll has shown.

Nearly three-quarters -- 74 per cent -- say they also support a system of segregated roads for Palestinians and Israelis in the West Bank, although the majority say they would view such a policy as “necessary” rather than “good”.
"Just under half of respondents, 49 per cent, said they want the state to treat Jewish citizens better than Arab ones, while 42 per cent said they did not want to live in the same building as Arabs and did not want their children to go to schools that also admit Arabs.

Tellingly, 58 per cent of those surveyed said Israel already practices a system of apartheid against Palestinians, an opinion normally only voiced by the Jewish state’s staunchest critics.

This finding in particular has already prompted soul-searching on the Israeli Left-wing.

“This [survey] lays bare an image of Israeli society, and the picture is a very, very sick one,” Gideon Levy, a prominent commentator, wrote in an opinion piece accompanying the poll.

“Now it is not just critics at home and abroad, but Israelis themselves who are openly, shamelessly, and guiltlessly defining themselves as nationalistic racists.

“We’re racists, the Israelis are saying, we practice apartheid and we even want to live in an apartheid state. Yes, this is Israel.”
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Typical Jewish Chutzpah , WOT ?



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...favour-discrimination-against-Arabs-poll.html

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Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

"I’M a Palestinian who was born in the Israeli town of Lod, and thus I am an Israeli citizen. My wife is not; she is a Palestinian from Nablus in the Israeli-occupied West Bank. Despite our towns being just 30 miles apart, we met almost 6,000 miles away in Massachusetts, where we attended neighboring colleges.

A series of walls, checkpoints, settlements and soldiers fill the 30-mile gap between our hometowns, making it more likely for us to have met on the other side of the planet than in our own backyard.

Never is this reality more profound than on our trips home from our current residence outside Washington.

Tel Aviv’s Ben-Gurion International Airport is on the outskirts of Lod (Lydda in Arabic), but because my wife has a Palestinian ID, she cannot fly there; she is relegated to flying to Amman, Jordan. If we plan a trip together — an enjoyable task for most couples — we must prepare for a logistical nightmare that reminds us of our profound inequality before the law at every turn.

Even if we fly together to Amman, we are forced to take different bridges, two hours apart, and endure often humiliating waiting and questioning just to cross into Israel and the West Bank. The laws conspire to separate us.

If we lived in the region, I would have to forgo my residency, since Israeli law prevents my wife from living with me in Israel. This is to prevent what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu once referred to as “demographic spillover.” Additional Palestinian babies in Israel are considered “demographic threats” by a state constantly battling to keep a Jewish majority. (Of course, Israelis who marry Americans or any non-Palestinian foreigners are not subjected to this treatment.)

Last week marked Israel’s 64th year of independence; it is also when Palestinians commemorate the Nakba, or “catastrophe,” during which many of Palestine’s native inhabitants were turned into refugees.

In 1948, the Israeli brigade commander Yitzhak Rabin helped expel Lydda’s Palestinian population. Some 19,000 of the town’s 20,000 native Palestinian inhabitants were forced out. My grandparents were among the 1,000 to remain.

They were fortunate to become only internally displaced and not refugees. Years later my grandfather was able to buy back his own home — a cruel absurdity, but a better fate than that imposed on most of his neighbors, who were never permitted to re-establish their lives in their hometowns.

Three decades later, in October 1979, this newspaper reported that Israel barred Rabin from detailing in his memoir what he conceded was the “expulsion” of the “civilian population of Lod and Ramle, numbering some 50,000.” Rabin, who by then had served as prime minister, sought to describe how “it was essential to drive the inhabitants out.”

Two generations after the Nakba, the effect of discriminatory Israeli policies still reverberates. Israel still seeks to safeguard its image by claiming to be a bastion of democracy that treats its Palestinian citizens well, all the while continuing illiberal policies that target this very population. There is a long history of such discrimination.

In the 1950s new laws permitted the state to take control over Palestinians’ land by classifying them “absentees.” Of course, it was the state that made them absentees by either preventing refugees from returning to Israel or barring internally displaced Palestinians from having access to their land. This last group was ironically termed “present absentees” — able to see their land but not to reach it because of military restrictions that ultimately resulted in their watching the state confiscate it. Until 1966, Palestinian citizens were governed under martial law.

Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. And although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, the 2012 budget allocates less than 7 percent for Palestinian citizens.

Tragically for Palestinians, Zionism requires the state to empower and maintain a Jewish majority even at the expense of its non-Jewish citizens, and the occupation of the West Bank is only one part of it. What exists today between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is therefore essentially one state, under Israeli control, where Palestinians have varying degrees of limited rights: 1.5 million are second-class citizens, and four million more are not citizens at all. If this is not apartheid, then whatever it is, it’s certainly not democracy.

The failure of Israeli and American leaders to grapple with this nondemocratic reality is not helping. Even if a two-state solution were achieved, which seems fanciful at this point, a fundamental contradiction would remain: more than 35 laws in ostensibly democratic Israel discriminate against Palestinians who are Israeli citizens.

For all the talk about shared values between Israel and the United States, democracy is sadly not one of them right now, and it will not be until Israel’s leaders are willing to recognize Palestinians as equals, not just in name, but in law.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/24/opinion/not-all-israeli-citizens-are-equal.html?_r=0

 

Shell-seekers on Gaza Beach;

 

Oh the horror.

 

There weren't any incoming shells that day.

Bustling downtown Gaza City throngs with affluent christmas shoppers, 2008;

 

Provide the statute which discriminates against Arab citizens of Israel your articles are referencing the enemy populations who are not Israeli citizens living in the West Bank and Gaza.

 

Gaza's luxury mall packed to the hilt with goods:
[video=youtube;QxaDmAyt84g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxaDmAyt84g[/video]

 

Open your eye.

 

OMG - Surely you're well aware that those devious SOB's aren't as stupid as Sth African racists , HUH ?

Of course , they are much craftier :


"

"Israeli government to back law allowing discrimination against Palestinians, ultra-Orthodox



The Israeli government’s Ministerial Committee for Legislation decided today (Sunday) to back a bill by MK Yariv Levin (Likud) which will allow discrimination against Arabs and ultra-Orthodox in employment and real-estate rights.

According for the suggested legislation, favoring people who served in the IDF will not be considered discrimination nor will it be challengeable in court. Since Palestinian citizens of Israel are not required to serve in the military and most ultra-Orthodox are exempted from doing so, the new bill will give employers and real-estate owners a legal way to reject Palestinian applicants.

Palestinians are underrepresented in almost all areas of public life in Israel. While they constitute 20 percent of the population, only 8 percent of the public sector’s workers are Palestinian. Unemployment is higher among Palestinians, and two-thirds of Palestinian citizen’s children grow up beneath the poverty line.

“On the one hand, the government claims that participation of Palestinians and ultra-Orthodox in the workforce should increase, while at the same time, it initiate laws which are meant to leave them out of it,” Meretz leader Zehava Gal-On told Ynet News

http://972mag.com/israeli-governmen...on-against-palestinians-ultra-orthodox/73778/


"The UN Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination said Israel's security measures to ward off suicide bombings and other attacks must be re-calibrated to avoid discrimination against Arab Israelis or Palestinians living in Israeli-occupied lands such as the West Bank.

The committee specified that Israel should ease roadblocks and other restrictions on Palestinians and put a stop to settler violence and hate speech.

Its 18 independent experts, who examined the records of 13 countries at a four-week meeting in Geneva, also said Israel should cease building a barrier in and around the West Bank and ensure its various checkpoints and road closures do not reinforce segregation.

In its conclusions, the committee also voiced concern at an unequal distribution of water resources, a disproportionate targeting of Palestinians in house demolitions and the "denial of the right of many Palestinians" to return to their land.

Differing applications of criminal law between Jews and Arabs had caused "harsher punishments for Palestinians for the same offence", said the committee, whose recommendations are not legally binding.

A high number of complaints by Arab Israelis against police officers are not properly investigated and many Arabs suffer discriminatory work practices and high unemployment, it said.

Excavations beneath and around the Al-Aqsa mosque, Islam's holiest site in Jerusalem, should also be undertaken in a way that will "in no way endanger the mosque and impede access to it", it added.

Israel argues that the UN committee's remit, to ensure compliance with a 1965 international treaty against racial discrimination which the Jewish state has ratified, does not apply to the Palestinian territories it has occupied since 1967. The committee rejects that position


http://www.haaretz.com/news/un-israel-must-stop-discrimination-against-arabs-palestinians-1.215158

 

" Arab citizens of Israel face entrenched discrimination in all fields of life. In recent years, the prevalent attitude of hostility and mistrust towards Arab citizens has become more pronounced, with large sections of the Israeli public viewing the Arab minority as both a fifth column and a demographic threat. There are glaring socioeconomic differences between Jewish and Arab population groups, particularly with regard to land, urban planning, housing, infrastructure, economic development, and education. Over half of the poor families in Israel are Arab families, and Arab municipalities constitute the poorest municipalities within Israel.

ACRI seeks to eradicate this socioeconomic inequality. Consequently, a majority of ACRI’s work regarding Arab equality involves the discrepancies in housing and infrastructure. ACRI engages in legal maneuvers and public advocacy to promote equality in housing and planning, to challenge discriminatory policies and decisions, to oppose home demolitions, to promote local planning efforts, and to encourage equal distribution of state resources. ACRI also seeks to ensure equal access to education including the construction of Arabic schools in mixed and predominantly Arab cities. In addition, ACRI addresses a number of other issues in an attempt to ensure overall equality, including safeguarding the rights of Arab Knesset members and political parties, promoting the sufficient inclusion of Arab representatives in State bodies, protecting the freedom of expression, and opposing the legalization of racial profiling.

http://www.acri.org.il/en/category/arab-citizens-of-israel/arab-minority-rights/


....

 

UN Res 181

The partition is of palestine, not FOR sissyville.

basic wiki:

The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine was a plan for the future government of Palestine. The Plan was described as a Plan of Partition with Economic Union which, after the termination of the British Mandate, would lead to the creation of independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem

Jerusalem aint israel, and israel never existed until well after palestine. (fact)

Israel has 5 star hotels and is a pee hole.

More palestinians are having children, because the men sleep with their wives instead of the whores of tel aviv.

I never said that.

You make up what you like as you go along. For example; you make up crap like the 'partition plan' was for israel, when on the very document, it is for palestine.

jerusalem aint a country or israel.

Zion is the single spot under the dome of the rock, that the zionist pukes cant have, no matter what.

It's funny

and then sad to realize people are dying over such a stupid desire and the misleading of the old, to their children

That is as true as santa claus runs the north pole and the eskimos have to move when he comes back.

Israel has NEVER existed before 48'..................... not anywhere in history, beside torah, babble and the tailmudd of

zionism is the pursuit of the mount

even if the idiots dont know what they are supporting.

It's almost like Obama about to O bam us all to hell, over the lies about syria and from the oxymoron of 'israeli intelligence'.

Zionist are supporting a bigot state, that has its leaders banging their head on a wall.

 

let me know when egypt does this to gaza,



[video=youtube;WbLUUo3EYOk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbLUUo3EYOk[/video]

Israel is the oppressor that uprooted the people from their homes, of palestine and put them into gaza (fact)

 

So that's a big negative on the single piece of actual discrimination against Arab Israelis by the state of Israel, not a single piece of legislation under the law, rather only the same challenge that minority populations face in any country on the planet including the United Kingdom, touche.



Muslims households were the least likely to be homeowners (52%) and are the most likely among all religious groups to be living in accommodation rented from the council or housing association (28%); 4% live rent-free.

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32% of Muslim households live in overcrowded accommodation. Average family size for a Muslim family is 3.8, which can contribute to overcrowding. 34% of Muslim households contained more than five people. 63% contained at least one dependent child, and 25% contained three or more dependent children.

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Unemployment rates were higher for Muslims than any other religion, for both men and women. Muslim male unemployment rate was 13% in 2004, and for women it was 18%.

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Muslims between the ages of 16 and 24 had the highest unemployment rates at 28%; 11% of Muslims over the age of 25 were unemployed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wik...04838/UK-MUSLIM-DEMOGRAPHICS-C-RE8-02527.html

The report revealed Muslims were more likely than any other faith group to be jobless and living in poor conditions.

It said 14% of Muslims aged over 25 were unemployed, compared with the national unemployment rate of 4%.

University researchers in Birmingham, Derby, Oxford and Warwick also found Muslims had poorer levels of education.

The study, commissioned to review the prospects of faith communities in England, also said Muslims were more vulnerable to long-term illness.

And one in three lived in the most deprived areas of England.

'Multiple deprivation'

"Taking the Muslim population as a whole, they face some of the most acute conditions of multiple deprivation," the report said.

John Prescott's former department, the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister (ODPM), commissioned the academics to review data on the Hindu, Sikh and Muslim communities.

As well as highlighting the disadvantages suffered, the report found members of these communities were likely to remain concentrated in the same areas.

This was because families wanted to stay close together and many prefer to live near to their places of worship.

Researchers reviewed a variety of data, including information from the 2001 national census.

The government will use the study in its work to encourage equal opportunities for members of all religious communities, a spokeswoman said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4771233.stm

But the extent of Muslims' deprivation was the key finding from the ONS data, with implications for community relations.

In 2003/4 Muslims had the highest unemployment rate. Among men it was 14%, compared with 4% among Christians. For women it was 15%, almost four times the rate among Christians. Muslims aged 16 to 24 had the highest unemployment rates of all at 22%, compared with an average for Christians of 11%.

The health of the Muslim population was particularly poor. Among men, 13% said they were in "not good" health, about double the percentage for Christians and Jews. Among women the figure was 16%.

After adjusting for the different ages of the religious groups, Muslims also had the highest rates of disability: 24% for women and 21% for men.

Muslims had the lowest level of educational qualifications, with 31% of men of working age having none, compared with 23% of Sikhs and 15% of Christians. But Sikhs were as likely as Christians to have degrees (16% in each group in 2003/4.)

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2004/oct/12/religion.news



There have been cases of threats,[103] one alleged fatal attack,[104] and non-fatal attacks on Muslims and on Muslim targets, including attacks on Muslim graves[105] and mosques.[106] In January 2010, a report from the University of Exeter's European Muslim Research Centre noted that the number of anti-Muslim hate crimes has increased, ranging from "death threats and murder to persistent low-level assaults, such as spitting and name-calling," for which the media and politicians have been blamed with fueling anti-Muslim hatred.[107][108][109]

The British media has been criticised for propagating negative stereotypes of Muslims and fueling anti-Muslim prejudice.[110] In 2006, British cabinet ministers were criticised for helping to "unleash a public anti-Muslim backlash" by blaming the Muslim community over issues of integration despite a study commissioned by the Home Office on white and Asian-Muslim youths demonstrating otherwise: that Asian-Muslim youths "are in fact the most tolerant of all" and that white British youths "have far more intolerant attitudes," concluding that intolerance from the white British community was a greater "barrier to integration."[111][112] Another survey by Gallup in 2009 also found that the Muslim community feels more patriotic about Britain than the general British population,[113][114] while another survey found that Muslims assert that they support the role of Christianity in British life more so than Christians themselves.[115] In January 2010, the British Social Attitudes Survey found that the general British public "is far more likely to hold negative views of Muslims than of any other religious group," with "just one in four" feeling "positively about Islam," and a "majority of the country would be concerned if a mosque was built in their area, while only 15 per cent expressed similar qualms about the opening of a church."[116] The "scapegoating" of Muslims by the media and politicians in the 21st century has been compared in the media to the rise of antisemitism in the early 20th century.[117]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom#Discrimination

I guess the UK is an apartheid state too eh?

 

The partition was for a Jewish and Arab state for the mandate of Palestine.

There has only ever been one state which has claimed and maintained sovereignty over Jerusalem, even under the partition plan Jerusalem was not deemed Arab territory but rather was to be governed under an international mandate.

Abject nonsense:

Iron Age I (1200 BCE - 1000 BCE)
The Merneptah stele (JE 3140, bearing the first record of the name Israel (Cairo Museum)

The name Israel first appears in the stele of the Egyptian pharaoh Merneptah c. 1209 BCE, "Israel is laid waste and his seed is no more."[17] This "Israel" was a cultural and probably political entity of the central highlands, well enough established to be perceived by the Egyptians as a possible challenge to their hegemony, but an ethnic group rather than an organised state;[18] Archaeologist Paula McNutt says: "It is probably ... during Iron Age I [that] a population began to identify itself as 'Israelite'," differentiating itself from its neighbours via prohibitions on intermarriage, an emphasis on family history and genealogy, and religion.[19]

In the Late Bronze Age there were no more than about 25 villages in the highlands, but this increased to over 300 by the end of Iron I, while the settled population doubled from 20,000 to 40,000.[20] The villages were more numerous and larger in the north, and probably shared the highlands with pastoral nomads who left no remains.[21] Archaeologists and historians attempting to trace the origins of these villagers have found it impossible to identify any distinctive features that could define them as specifically Israelite – collared-rim jars and four-room houses have been identified outside the highlands and thus cannot be used to distinguish Israelite sites,[22] and while the pottery of the highland villages is far more limited than that of lowland Canaanite sites, it develops typologically out of Canaanite pottery that came before.[23] Israel Finkelstein proposed that the oval or circular layout that distinguishes some of the earliest highland sites, and the notable absence of pig bones from hill sites, could be taken as a marker of ethnicity, but others have cautioned that these can be a "common-sense" adaptation to highland life and not necessarily revelatory of origins.[24] Other Aramaean sites also demonstrate a contemporary absence of pig remains at that time, unlike earlier Canaanite and later Philistine excavations. Modern scholars therefore see Israel arising peacefully and internally in the highlands.[25]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah#The_archaeological_record

It's actually an economically advanced paradise in the middle of region of deprivation, barbarism, and backwardness.

I agree that the polygamy of the Muslims contributes considerably to their high population growth.

You clearly stated that the only purpose for marriage is procreation so according to your logic heterosexual couples who don't or can't have children should not be allowed to marry.

Israel is a country and Jerusalem is a city founded by Jews.

Well they could if they really wanted to and there is absolutely nothing the Arabs could do about it.

No its historical fact, name the sovereign nation state which existed within the current territory of the state of Israel aside from the Jewish kingdoms of Israel and Judea.

Yes it has you're just wrong.

Nope:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah#The_archaeological_record

No Zionism is the support for a Jewish homeland and its continued existence.

Zi·on·ism
ˈzīəˌnizəm/
noun
noun: Zionism

1.
a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.

 

I already dealt with this nonsense here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...maker-slams-neozionism-26.html#post1062407737

And here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...maker-slams-neozionism-42.html#post1062427545

And here:

http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...ning-gaza-high-schools-14.html#post1062405640

 

Wasting bandwidth as they are not very good at definitions preferring to just make their own up on the fly. Some of them even invent entire nations.

 

Call us when Isreal will gas a 1000 ppl a day, no need to even reply to anything less than that, and thx for setting a new standart btw

 

Israel is a manmade creation


of 48'

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you'd like to see that wouldnt you?

 

The 'mandate' already existed. UN Res 181, was the partition plan for palestine. A named land, well before israel EVER existed.

i love stepping on bigots' pride

 

Jerusalem was NOT founded by "Jews" it was founded by Jebusites

There was no such thing as "Jews" - By the time of Jesus the word Edom or Edomite had been translated by Greek and Latin into Ioudaios and Iudaeus meaning a Judean or person living in Judea. The original King James version of the Bible, 1611, translated Idumaean-Judean into Iewes. It wasn't until the revised editions of the King James Bible, that the word Jew appeared. The word Jew does not mean Israel or Israelite! We must conclude therefore that the first "Jews" were Canaanite-Edomite-Hittite. It is certain, according to the Bible, that Jews are not Israel.

The term originated in the late eighteenth century as an abbreviation of the term Judean and refers to a resident of Judea without regard to race or religion, just as the term "Texan" signifies a person living in Texas.

In spite of the powerful propaganda effort of the so-called "Jews", they have been unable to prove in recorded history that there is one record, prior to that period, of a race religion or nationality, referred to as "Jew". The religious sect in Judea, in the time of Jesus, to which self-styled "Jews" today refer to as "Jews", were known as "Pharisees". "Judaism" today and "Pharisaism" in the time of + before Jesus are the same.

 

BBC2 9pm tonight

http://www.radiotimes.com/episode/cm72vf/the-story-of-the-jews--series-1---1-in-the-beginning

 

It wasn't ' nonsense ' and your rebuttal fell on its arse.