Erdogan; Zionism is a " crime against humanity "

Numerous genetic studies prove conclusively that the overwhelming majority of modern Jews can trace their lineage directly to the neolothic Levant IE to the Canaanites of whom that adopted monotheism became the Israelites.

 

Numerous genetic studies prove conclusively that the majority of modern Jews can trace their lineage directly to the neolithic Levant IE to the Canaanites of whom that adopted monotheism became the Israelites. Yes there is genetic admixture within the Jewish community as there are in all ethnicity's,

 

OMG How many more time do I have to tell you, and provide supporting evidence
- exposing the fact that your so-called "Numerous genetic studies" was carried out and FUNDED by Zionists .

"He who pays the piper , calls the tune"..

Every one in that long list of sources you keep posting have received substantial donations from JEWS.

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this is false.

many Jews have genetic markers that are most common in the Fertile Crescent, mostly among Lebanese, Palestinians, and Kurds.

This is not PROOF of Canaanite ancestry. why?

because these genetic markers that are supposedly proof of Fertile Crescent descent, are also somewhat common among other Mediteranean peoples, notable Italians.

why is this relevent? because at one time 10% of the Roman Empire was Jewish, and Judaism was a prostelityzing religion throughout the Roman Empire before 350 AD.

it is indeed possible that Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Maghreg Jews are descended mostly from Roman Empire converts in the Meditaranean region.

 

That is incorrect information.

"Jew' is a belief, not a blood right. Nothing will change that!

 

Jew started as a nationality, one that people could join by being conquered by the Jews..or by choosing to join the Jewish people.

people today can choose to join the Jewish people by converting to Judaism.

once you are converted to Judaism, your children you create will also be Jews.

 

which is a neanderthal belief. Make the old garbage extinct or change the pretense of your claim. ie... in the past judaism taught people that to believe in judaism, you are 'a jew'.

but no parent makes their kid follow a religion, unless cruelty is involved and labeling them is inhumane to start with.

The past, 'belief' is not representing 'today'.

'do unto others as you would have them do unto you' is chinese. Do you hold that belief? Is that now your country?

who is 'our' rules? I know that being jewish is not being 'israeli'.
don't like it? no one really cares.

how many african americans, speak african?

again, by choice, not by birth

No human being is born a 'jew' as judaism is a religious belief. Likewise, no one choosing judaism, is now an israeli/hebrew/jew. Judaism is a religious belief and people choose to identify as lots of things, but all are just human beings.................... equally!

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Mods, no removing my posts............................. I am posting facts and i am tired of having my posts removed because some people do not like it.

 

everything pre-Christian is "neanderthal"?

whan an ignorant and bigoted statement.

its also a Jewish and Christain belief.

someone actually told you that there is a language called "African"?

wow, someone really lied to you and you fell for it!!!!!

sorry buddy, but we follow pre-Christian rules with regards to nationality.

if the Christians don't like it, they can go scratch.

 

Those who describe themselves as "Jews" today , was never a Nation. While there are biblical /mythical claims abt there having briefly been an "Israel " a Judea/Samaria, the descendents of those people died away/was absorbed over the centuries , they no longer exist. they're extinct.- JEWS are not a nation.

 

Jews are a people.

if Gentiles don't like it, they can go scratch....cause we don't care what they think about us.

 

no it didnt as no nation existed for 'judaism' prior to 48'

Yet the belief of judaism, has for 1000's of years.

move to new york and have all the company you want.

But 'conquered by the jews' is ugly, especially knowing that a concentration camp (gaza) still exists and oppression is what enabled that 'conquered' in our modern times.

And zionist christians join the oppressive nation and dont have to wear a beenie or give up bacon.

beat that?

believing in judaism, offers many benefits. I never said otherwise.

It is zionism, israel and the quest for the mount that gets israel wiped off the map. Some dont know that, dont care, dont have a clue, and even delete information that can wake people up.

That's a false witness. There is zero fact to that claim other than a belief, which is easily proven to be 'false'; freedom of choice.

You have chosen to post incorrect information, why?




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what?

who is scratching?

 

'everything'? did i say that?

keyword....'belief'

aint nuttin to do with what is real.

im smaught
Now you meditate on what it means.

ie... semitic is a language, not a people too

i aint the one claiming that a child is born with a belief on his head (being born 'jew').

who is 'we'?
You are telling me, that every 'jew' in america is actually an israeli?

Not only would that be treason to any military personnel in the US forces (that claims as you do), but it would mean that there is a secret, that the US public doesnt know, about 'jews'.

Ill stick with equality. Bigots end up extinct, anyways.

Did you just insult all christians?

 

My understanding is that its a religion, not unlike the other Abrahamic derivative believe systems .i.e. Christianity/Islam with all its various denominations .

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No they are not. They are human beings that hold a belief. And that is the fact on the matter.

are you insulting christians, based on what i have to say?

funny.

I suppose that is because hilter was christian and holycause is why you deserve israel?


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and the same 'god' of abraham

i guess that makes them all 'arabs'

 

Actually it did as I have already proven, ancient Israel is a historical reality:

Israel and Judah were related Iron Age kingdoms of the ancient Levant. The Kingdom of Israel emerged as an important local power by the 9th century BCE before falling to the Neo-Assyrian Empire in 722 BCE. Israel's southern neighbor, the Kingdom of Judah, emerged in the 8th century[1] and enjoyed a period of prosperity as a client-state of first Assyria and then Babylon before a revolt against the Neo-Babylonian Empire led to its destruction in 586 BCE. Following the fall of Babylon to the Persian king Cyrus the Great in 539 BCE, some Judean exiles returned to Jerusalem, inaugurating the formative period in the development of a distinctive Judahite identity in the Persian province of Yehud. Yehud was absorbed into the subsequent Hellenistic kingdoms that followed the conquests of Alexander the Great, but in the 2nd century BCE the Judaeans revolted against the Hellenist Seleucid Empire and created the Hasmonean kingdom. This, the last nominally independent Judean kingdom, came to an end in 63 BCE with its conquest by Pompey of Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah#The_archaeological_record

and it is still palestinian 'land'

Israelites and modern Jews are the descendents of the Canaanites, not the Arabs who today call themselves Palestinians.

No it was not, the first use of the word Palestine was by Herodutus in the 5th Century long after the establishment of Israeli and Judea the two Israelite kingdoms, and referred not to the lands of modern day Israel but rather to Philistia

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Your source can call Israel proper whatever it likes, but the Egyptians did not use the word Palestine, the first use was from Herodotus in the 5th century.

Sorry it was Herodotus who first used the word Palestine in the 5th century, and it did not refer to the lands of modern Israel or the United Kingdom, or the Northern Kingdom of Israel or the Southern Kingdom of Judea, it referred to a province of Syria which traces its origins to the Philistines and Philistia.

Provide me the translation which uses the word Peleset to refer to the lands which would later become the United Kingdom of Israel, the Northern Kingdom of Israel, and the Israelite Southern Kingdom of Judea, the term Peleset was used to refer to the Philistines/Philistia not the Canaanites/Israelites/Israel.

Once again it was the Romans who named the lands of Israel Palestine after their hated enemies the Philistines after they destroyed the 2nd temple:

The term was first used to denote an official province of the Roman Empire in c.135 CE, when the Roman authorities, following the suppression of the Bar Kokhba Revolt, combined Iudaea Province with Galilee and other surrounding cities such as Ashkelon to form "Syria Palaestina" (Syria Palaestina), which some scholars state was in order to complete the dissociation with Judaea.[20][21]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine#Etymology

No I am not I am rendering the actual historical facts not the biblical narrative, Israel and Judea were real Kingdoms, and Palestine referred to the Philistines.

The Arab League, and the Arab Higher Committee rejected the partition plan, and attacked Israel, in fact they attacked Israel before the Zionists even declared independence and the end of the British Mandate first through the Army of the Holy war directed by the head of the Arab Higher Committee the Nazi Mufti of Jerusalem and his nephew, and then by the Arab League organized, funded, manned, and directed Arab Liberation Army.

I support the two state solution based on the '67 borders and while I would prefer an Arab capital in East Jerusalem it is not a deal breaker for me since Israel offers the Arab residents therein full citizenship which unfortunately in the main the Arabs reject.

Zionism is only support for a Jewish homeland and its continued existence, nothing more and nothing less.

I never claimed that the lands of Canaan were never a province of Egypt, what I did say is that the only independent and sovereign states to exist there were the United Kingdom of Israel from which the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the Southern Kingdom of Judea were born and whose historical roots helped to form the modern state of Israel, all of these were Jewish states.

I'm sure the Canaanites adopted a lot from their Egyptian overlords prior to their independence and formation of the United Kingdom of Israel in the 9th century BCE four and a half centuries after the Amarna Tablets were written in 1350 BCE

Abject nonsense, the people who today refer to themselves as Palestinians are in actuality Arabs, they are not the descendents of the Philistines.

I didn't bring up Muslims, but now that you mention it the Arabs didn't enter the Levant until the Islamic Conquests, in actuality the original inhabitants of the region were not Arab but rather Berber, Phoenician, Philistines, Egyptian (not the same thing as Arab Egyptians) Asryians, Canaanites/Israelites etc etc et al none of which had anything to do with the Arabian Peninsula.

If the Israelis actually wanted to rebuild the temple they would have rebuilt the temple and there would not be a damn thing the Arabs could do about it.

I support a homeland for the Jewish people within the Levant based on secular and historical reasons not religious reasons, the Jewish people are the indigenous inhabitants of the modern day Levant.

 

And Philistia is not the same territory as that of the United Kingdom of Israel, the Northern Kingdom, or the Southern Kingdom., and the Canaanites from which the Israelites descended far exceeds the presence of the Phillistines in the Levant from the Aegean.

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A) You need to learn the difference between a state, a nation, a nation-state, and a country.

B) A state without sovereignty within the whole of its territory is not a state.

C) Palestinians will never achieve a sovereign independent state through unilateral declarations or violence but only through peaceful negotiations with Israel.

 

and it is still palestinian land,

ie... arab

canaan is arab and was egyptian (arab) before anything 'jewish' even existed. That has been my point from day one.
It means that there is no such thing as an 'exodus' from an egyptian land, to an egyptian land.

you have a belief, that you hold which is incorrect

Ill delete the other times you reclaim this crap on this one post

see the links that i provided.

Go read. I offered the information to you already but you dont do the read, but you sure like wiki.

who hates who?

I will accept what is in stone (amarna tablets) before wiki. Meaning, egypt was there before anything israel/judaism. ie.... arabs were there in the land of palestine, before anything israel/judaism ever existed. Muslim has nothing to do with arab as a designation. There are muslim israelis, that are of the arab region, living there since its his/her palestinian homeland.

which were well after egyptian, arab and palestinian people already living there.

I can agree that people that believed in judaism, lived there. As i see judaism as an egyptian born religion (an arab religion).

attack of 48'?

Was it because the locals were defending themselves from the zionist occupiers?

zionist ended the british 'mandate' by terrorizing british interest for over a decade before 48'.

It was by terrorism that israel even exist
That's historical fact!.

back to 48'

pay reparations

never hold a weapon again

ask to be forgiven by the children orphaned. Many will be old men and women.

incorrect

[video=youtube;036l1U296JE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=036l1U296JE[/video]

listen to the song

Tell the forum, what it says. Be honest.

sorry

but apparently you did not know the truth.

Egypt is where judaism was born. ie... Moses was born, raised and learned everything he knew, from living in pharoahs house, per torah itself.

Apparently you didnt know that either.

Not bad.

israel is an arab land.

If you are born there, you are of arab lands

Especially if your family migrated there, as a 'roaming nomad' (as if homeless, coming back). It is what 'arab' means.
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There's a ripley's for anyone to know.

rrrrrrright.

but at least you touch on the subject as it is what 'zionism' is all about.

but the 'religious reasons' are why israel calls palestine their 'holy land' "homeland' or even are there, in the first place.

SHALOM AND WELCOME to the official website of the TEMPLE INSTITUTE in Jerusalem, Israel. The Temple Institute is dedicated to every aspect of the Holy Temple of Jerusalem, and the central role it fulfilled, and will once again fulfill, in the spiritual wellbeing of both Israel and all the nations of the world. The Institute's work touches upon the history of the Holy Temple's past, an understanding of the present day, and the Divine promise of Israel's future. The Institute's activities include education, research, and development. The Temple Institute's ultimate goal is to see Israel rebuild the Holy Temple on Mount Moriah in Jerusalem, in accord with the Biblical commandments. We invite you to read our Statement of Principles. To learn more about the Temple Institute,



Folks, that above is what zionism is all about.



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Yes we know Yes we know the Laboratory of Molecular Systematics and Evolution, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85721; ¶Department of Genetics, Università degli Studi di Pavia, Pavia 27100, Italy; **Department of Genetics, University of Leicester, Leicester LE1 7RH, England; ‡‡SAMIR, University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg 2000, South Africa; ††Department of Pediatrics, New York University Medical Center, New York, NY 10016;the peer review process of the University of Washington the Department of Pediatrics, Human Genetics Program NYU Langone Medical Center, New York, NY; the Department of Medicine, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; the Department of Computer Science, Columbia University, New York, NY; the Department of Genetics, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; and the Center for Genome Informatics, New Jersey Medical School, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, Newark, the peer reviewed American Journal of Human Genetics, the Estonian Biocentre and Department of Evolutionary Biology, University of Tartu, Tartu 51010, Estonia, the Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics, Ufa Research Center, Russian Academy of Sciences, Ufa 450054, Russia, the Research Centre for Medical Genetics, Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Moscow 115478, Russia, the Dipartimento di Genetica e Microbiologia, Università di Pavia, Pavia 27100, Italy, the Instituto de Patologia e Imunologia Molecular da Universidade do Porto (IPATIMUP), Porto 4200-465, Portugal, the Faculdade de Medicina, Universidade do Porto, Porto 4200-319, Portugal, the Institute of Evolutionary Biology (CSIC-UPF), CEXS-UPF-PRBB and CIBER de Epidemiología y Salud Pública, Barcelona 08003, Spain, the Department of the Languages and Cultures of the Near and Middle East, Faculty of Languages and Cultures, School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS), University of London, London WC1H 0XG, UK, and the ARL Division of Biotechnology, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona 85721, USA, and the peer reviewed Nature Magazine who conducted and peer reviewed the genetic studies: "Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes," "Abraham's children in the genome era: major Jewish diaspora populations comprise distinct genetic clusters with shared Middle Eastern ancestry.", and "The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people." are all part of a massive Jewish conspiracy.

You have to this very day not provided a scrap of evidence for this fact whatsoever, not a single scrap of evidence, this is an overt lie on your part that you continue to repeat over and over whenever confronted with those inconvenient little things called facts.

Which Jews? To whom? How much were the donations to these numerous universities? Who in the University ordered the research teams to falsify their results in return for these donations? When? How did these donations effect the peer review process of the well respected scientific journals in which they appeared?

 

No the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians are in fact Arabs not Philistines; furthermore, Philistia did not encompass the Northern and Southern Kingdoms and in fact the Canaanites from whom the Israelites are descended long pre-date the Philistines who arrived from the Aegean thousands of years after the proto-Canaanites settled in the Levant.

No Arabs are from the Arabian Peninsula and did not make it to the Levant until the Islamic conquests less than 2 thousand years ago.

Arabs are from the Arabian Peninsula, Canaanites of who adopted monotheism became the Israelites are not Arab, ancient Egyptians were not Arab.

And it is historically false.

I already stated several times that the biblical narrative is a fiction and that the Israelites are simply the descendents of the Canaanites who adopted monotheism.

No I have the historical facts and you are claiming that Arabs who didn't venture out from the Arabian Peninsula until the Islamic conquests less than 2 thousand years ago are the indigenous peoples of the Levant.

The links which you provided to not provide a translation which uses the word Peleset to refer to the lands which would later become the United Kingdom of Israel, the Northern Kingdom of Israel, and the Israelite Southern Kingdom of Judea, because the term Peleset was used to refer to the Philistines/Philistia not the Canaanites/Israelites/Israel. The reason why your links can not provide such translation is because the Philistines to whom the cuneiform term Peleset referred did not arrive in the Levant from the Egyptian until 1175 BCE more than a century after the Amarna Tablets were written in 1350 BCE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philistines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amarna_letters

A) The Amarna Tablets do not contain even the root cuneiform word for Palestine or Palestinians because that word referred to the Philistines who did not enter the Levant until more than a century after they were written.

B) The term Palestine was not actually used until Herodotus in the 5th century.

C) The root word for the term Palestine did not refer to the Canaanites who are the ancestors of the Israelites.

D) The Philistines were not Arab, Arabs did not make it to the Levant until less than 2 thousand years ago with the Islamic conquests.

Abject nonsense, ancient Egyptians and ancient Philistines/Palestinians were not Arab, the Arabs did not arrive in the Levant until less than 2 thousand years ago.

Your assertion that ancient Egyptians were Arab is just laughable on its face.

Y-Chromosome

Haplogroup E1b1b is the most frequent haplogroup in Western Arabs (Maghrebis) while haplogroup J is the most frequent haplogroup in Eastern Arabs (Mashriq).[139]

The Paternal Ancestry found across all Arabic countries is Haplogroup J1 especially its major subclade J-P58 the haplogroup that spread with Arabic conquest in the 7th century. It was found that Haplogroup J1 occur at high frequencies among the Arabic-speaking populations of the Middle East and is the prevalent Y-chromosome lineage within the Near East. Haplogroup J1e (J-P5 is also associated with a Semitic linguistic common denominator, with the YCAII 22-22 allele state is closely associated with J1e.[140] J-P58 subclade of J1 is single paternal lineage originated in the Near East of high frequency in Bedouins 70% Yemenis 68% Jordanians 55%, 55% of Palestinian Arabs, 48% of Omani People 34% of Tunisians, 35% of Algerians[141][142][143] , and its precipitations drop in frequency as one moves away from Saudi Arabia and the Near East. J-P58 include all the J1-CMH haplotypes and is YCAII=22-22 motif, both are found in Arabs and J1-Cohanim (Y-chromosomal Aaron)[144][145] The motif YCAII=22-22 characterize a monophyletic clad found in Arabs but less frequent in Ethiopian J1 and rare in Europe and Caucasus.[146] [147] It is now been resolved that the Arabic clade J1-P58,L147.1 (the major clad of P58 and still the major clade of J1) include all CMH haplotypes and is YCAII=22-22 (both specific to Arabs and J1-Cohanim). was the J1 clade that spread far and wide by the Islamic conquest [148] Both Qahtanite and Adnanite Arabs are J1-P58 haplogroup since the Arabs of North Africa like Algeria (known to have Qahtanite lineage from the Arab conquest and Adnanite lineage from Bani Hilal and bani Sulaim migration to North Africa in the 10th century by the Fatimides, yet only E of the Berber and J1 are found in Arabs of North Africa and this J1 is marked by CMH and the motif YCAII=22-22. The J2 in Algerian Arabs is minor 3% and is of the rare J2-M67 of Chechnea rarely found in other Arabic countries and non existent in Arabian Peninsula and Yemen.[149][150] The Arab conquest appears to have had a dramatic influence on the East and South Mediterranean coasts. The presence of Arab Y chromosome lineages in the Middle East suggests that most have experienced substantial gene flow from the Arabian peninsula.[151]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_people#Genetics

No, the Zionists didn't initiate the violence in the mandate, in fact they started in 20s the first being the Battle of Tel Hai when Arabs attacked a Jewish settlement in which 8 Jews were killed, this was followed by the Nebi Musa Riots in 1921 in which the Arabs killed 5 Jews, then the Jaffa Riots, also in 1921 where the Arabs killed 45 Jews, and then we had the Palestine Riots in 1929 in which the Arabs killed 133 Jews, this was followed by the Safed Massacre in 1929 in which 20 Jews were killed, this all culminated with the anti-Semitic Jihadist organization known as the Black Hand which routinely targeted Jewish settlers culminating in the Arab revolt between 1936 and 1939 in which the Arabs indiscriminately targeted Jews.

The British Mandate was never intended to be permanent. The United Nations ended the British Mandate when they recognized the Jewish peoples right to self determination within their ancestral homes.

Fighting for independence does not equal terrorism.

International Law recognizes the pre-67 borders, the Arab League and Arab Higher Commission for Palestine rejected the partition plan not the Jewish Agency.

So long as the Arabs pay reparations for the Jews ethnically cleansed by the Arab states under a coordinated plan and whose assets lost far exceed their Arab counterparts.


Text of the Law Drafted by the Political Committee of the Arab League
Summary

In 1947, the Political Committee of the Arab League (League of Arab States) drafted a law which was to govern the legal status of Jewish residents in all Arab League countries. This law had already been approved by Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, provided that, “beginning with a specified date, all Jews – with the exception of citizens of non-Arab countries – were to be considered members of the Jewish ‘minority state of Palestine,’ and that their bank account be frozen and used to finance resistance to ‘Zionist ambitions in Palestine.’ Jews believed to be active Zionists would be interned as political prisoners and their assets confiscated. Only Jews who accept active service in Arab armies or place themselves at the disposal of these armies would be considered ‘Arabs.’” 1

Excerpts of Direct Quotes of the Law drafted by the Political Committee of the Arab League

• “All Jewish citizens…will be considered as members of the Jewish minority of the State of Palestine and will have to register [“within 7 days”] with the authorities of the region wherein they reside, giving their names, the exact number of members in their families, their addresses, the names of their banks and the amounts of their deposits in these banks…”2

• “Bank accounts of Jews will be frozen. These funds will be utilized in part or in full to finance the movement of resistance to Zionist ambitions in Palestine.”3

• “Only Jews who are subjects of foreign countries will be considered ‘neutrals.’ These will be compelled either to return to their countries, with a minimum of delay, or be considered Arabs and obliged to accept active service in the Arab army.”4

• “Every Jew whose activities reveal that he is an active Zionist will be considered as a political prisoner and will be interned in places specifically designated for that purpose by police authorities or by the Government. His financial resources, instead of being frozen, will be confiscated.”5

• “Any Jew who will be able to prove that his activities are anti-Zionist will be free to act as he likes, provided that he declares his readiness to join the Arab armies.”6

• “The foregoing…does not mean that those Jews will not be submitted to paragraphs 1 and 2 of this law.”7

1 Memorandum Submitted to the U.N. Economic and Social Council by the World Jewish Congress. (Jan. 19, 1948 ) Section I. (2) a. June 2, 1948. [ZIIC - This reference is in the document prepared by JJAC and is probably incorrect]

2 Text of the Law drafted by the Political Committee of the Arab League. Paragraph 1.

3 ibid. Paragraph 2.

4 ibid. Paragraph 3.

5 ibid. Paragraph 5.

6 ibid. Paragraph 6.

7 ibid. Paragraph 7. (Paragraph 1 & 2 indicate all Jews must register and disclose personal and banking information and

that bank accounts will be frozen and utilized for anti-Zionist resistance.)

http://www.zionism-israel.com/hdoc/Arab_League_Law_Jews.htm

So that the Arabs can finally get their dream of pushing the Jews into the sea?

As soon as the Arabs apologize for attacking Israel since before it was born, and the numerous wars which the Arabs have started ever since resulting in tens of thousands of Jewish dead.

No it's correct, because Jews revere certain holy sites in Israel, Samaria, and Judea, does not change the fact that Zionism is simply support for a Jewish homeland in the Levant and its continued existence.

I don't speak Hebrew, besides it's irrelevant as destroying the Al Aqsa Mosque and rebuilding the Temple is not even close to a mainstream Israeli view and has nothing to do with Zionism.

Moses is a fictional character, the United Kingdom of Israel, and the subsequent Northern Kingdom of Israel and Southern Kingdom of Judea formed as independent Kingdoms, they did not pay homage or swear fealty to the Pharaoh.

The Arab lands are in Arabia.

You're honestly trying to use the etymology of the word Arab to define the Arab ethnicity?

The Arabs have been trying unsuccessfully to destroy Israel for more than 60 years, if Zionism was about rebuilding the temple rather than establishing a homeland for the Jewish people then Al Aqsa would be gone and the temple mount rebuilt decades ago.

They are there in the first place because they are indigenous to the Levant and have had an unbroken presence there since the neolithic.

Abject nonsense, the majority of Israelis are not orthodox Jews let alone radicals like the cite you just quoted.

 

okey dokey

Were you there?

So then the people that call themselves to be a bloodline of the old jew, have to admt that they are egyptian roots. Simply because judaism is from egypt as per torah, moses was born, raised, lived and learned, in the house of pharoah. So talking to god would be like having dinner with him at supper time. It makes the exodus as being the schism from one belief system to monotheism.

 

No matter how many times you post the same crap - it'll remain just that , .
The only one who's likely to keep swallowing it are crap heads.


GERTCHA ..

 

The only crap being posted are the anti-Semitic conspiracy theories regarding manipulation of these studies and the peer review process by conducted by well respected researchers, at well respected universities, and published in well respected scientific journals by the JOOZ, for which not a scrap of evidence whatsoever has been posted.

 

Facts are stubborn things.

No but genetics were, archaeological records were, linguistic record were etc.

a) Moses is a fictional character.

b) Canaanites from who the Israelites descended were not Egyptians they were conquered by the Egyptians and did not achieve independence until the United Kingdom of Israel.

 

I could barely breath after that.

 

You have tested all them palestinians dna?
If they are born in palestine and have 500yrs of same family, on same property, then i could care less if they're a creation from Mordor of middle earth.
You're not giving facts, you are rendering what is understood and then stop at the period that YOU like, versus allowing us to go back even further.

and before judaism, there were human beings living there.

So why even use the word 'jooz' as you sling? So now let's lose all religious designation. Are the people of the levant, human beings, no matter which period of time?

Were the people that call themselves palestinians, living in homes that people born from all over the world, came and took from them, by force?

And if that is OK to believe, does that make of difference of land ownership in palestine?

Basically no matter who was there 1000-2000-3000 yrs ago, it does not mean, that people can take by force today, what does not belong to them, and then have no responsibility to them and confine them in a concentration camp (gaza).


My argument has no need of religious observance. You are a self proclaimed atheist, and see moses as a ficticious character. Perfect!

DO you agree, that the people occupying palestine have no right to be doing what they have for the last 70yrs?

Or can i ask, if force is NORMAL and how people take what they want?

You can be honest, if you want,

of course.