Erdogan; Zionism is a " crime against humanity "

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  1. Jonsa

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  2. moon

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    All the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights reports cover one week only. Your pro-neoZionist counter is pathetic.
     
  3. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Palestinian Terrorist Centre for Human Rights of Victims of Suicide and Rocket Attacks" would be a more reasonable name
     
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    President Erdogan of Turkey, is playing a role in a dialectical game plan that favors the Israelis. He is just acting out his script.

    As for "anti-Semites":
    Semites are descendants of Shem, and that includes most of the MIddle East, Europe, the Americas, Russia etc. Even the Cambodians and Vietnamese can claim through Shem - Israel.

    To be a real Jew one has to follow the King of Judah, Jesus Christ. (Romans 2:28-29)
    Any self professed Jew, who does not follow the King of Judah is a member of the Sinogog of the enemies of mankind and God.

    The Ashkenazi "Jews" are descendants of Japheth, not Shem. They have lived in the tents of Shem a long time, and probably most of them can claim a Semitic heritage, just like Esau & Amalek's kids can claim to be Semitic.

    But the honest use of the word Semitic applies only to those following in the ways of Abraham, the Prophets, & the King of Israel and Judah, Jesus Christ, even those not of Semitic blood.

    Let's compare the actions of those claiming to be the New Israel of 1947:
    Abraham treated the inhabitants of Canaan with respect and honor. He did not conduct any aggression against them.
    The invaders of Palestine who call themselves Israel have been attacking the inhabitants of Canaan over and over again for 80 years or so.

    Those claiming to be an extension of the Jerusalem Fig tree of 33 A.D., have to show some good fruit, otherwise they are a cursed tree that cannot produce good fruit. As Christ mentioned: Matt. 21:19;
    And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
    And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. Mark 11:13-14
    The fig tree, here, represents old Jerusalem and the New Israel of 1947.

    Who is that invading GOG and MaGOG in Ezekiel 38-39?

    1 It is GOG the CHIEF PRINCE from MaGOG, Ashkenaz etc in the Pharisee spirit of Esau Amalek who has ALREADY invaded.

    2. GOG the PRINCE dictates the policy and wars.

    3. GOG knows the Gospel better than Christians to thus control them.

    4. GOG invaded and made America into the world’s first and foremost communist country.

    5. PRINCE GOG, leader of world powers and enemy of Christ and mankind, worships death and works to bring the world to Armageddon.

    6. GOG builds his zion with blood and iniquity, but Christ has prepared a burning devastation for him and his Jerusalem

    Christians who are with the PRINCE of GOG are playing the role of Judas and have accepted the enemies of Jesus Christ as brothers in the Lord.
    In doing this, they have confirmed these "Jews" in their desolating abomination and state of unbelief thus helping "Jews" and their victims into inevitable disaster

    When GOG assumed the name Israel, he also accepted the citizenship, duty, blessings and curses that go with it.

    They are a type for a re-run if we choose.

    So where are the good fruits and blessing to mankind that this people is supposed to deliver?

    “They build up Zion with blood and Jerusalem with inequity. Therefore, Zion is plowed and Jerusalem ruins.” (Micah 3:10-12) “Judah multiplied fenced cities; but I am sending a fire upon his cities, and it devours the palaces thereof. (Hosea 8:14)

    To escape the curses Israel must realize that they have no future apart from Christ.

    “The judgment upon GOG is upon the corporate body of people—the nation called “Israel.” It is not directed at every individual" who calls himself a "Jew." The divine fulfillment of Judah’s religion is Jesus Christ, King of Judah and the whole universe.
    http://mysite.verizon.net/ress8ouv/whoisgogandmagogwellitaintrussia/
     
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    Israel is here now, in possession of the land, fact. Go back to Jordan where you belong. 168 - zip who cares. Go live with your Palestinian queen that's where you belong not in england hiding.
     
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    Very much this, just like the French President that time, remember?
     
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    I didn't realize this guy was such a whackjob.
     
  8. litwin

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    agreed, but you know that Israel supported(weapons and media support) all kemalists governments in their war on Kurdish nation
     
  9. Jeannette

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    I'm not denying that there was a group that came from Greece and killed some Turks, but it was the Turks that committed genocide. Every Cypriot that was captured by Turkish troops was killed. The two hundred thousand who escaped had their homes and land stolen and given to Turks from the mainland.

    Look, I read Turkish newspapers and I know the lies that is fed to the Turkish people. For example, just recently seven Turkish jets flew over the Greek island of Chios and were chased away by the Greeks. The Turkish papers presented it as student pilots being harassed by Greek jets in Turkish air space. If the Turkish government wanted people to know the truth and what's really going on, they wouldn't have one hundred journalists in jail on minor charges.

    The same lies are being fed over the Armenian genocide. The U.S. did not declare war with Turkey at the time so it could protect its tens of thousands of teachers, nurses, and doctors in the Ottoman Empire, and because of this these Americans were witness' to the events. We have records of the attrocities and genocides against Armenians, Assyrians and Pontiac and Anatolian Greeks in our Congressional Congress.

    Erdogan stated that there is no such nation as Cyprus, and yet it is recognized by every country in the world except Turkey. In the meantime Turkey recognizes the North of Cyprus, while every nation in the world considers it occupied. Do you think all these nations are stupid? I mean come on, wake up before the man sends you people to the graveyard. Let's not underestimate the 'bear' sitting on top of you people. It's watching Devotoglus instigations in the Caucasus and Balkans, as well as Turkeys machinations in Syria, the Eastern Mediterrean and Aegean very closely. :eyepopping:
     
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    I can but like I said, that wasn't the definition I was using. I clearly told you the usage I was using.

    I didn't say any of their actions were "virtually" a crime, I said virtually all of their actions were a crime. In other words it was the proportion of the actions which were crimes, not the criminal extent of any particular action. Simply swap the term "virtually everything" for "almost everything". Or just actually READ what it is I wrote.
     
  11. Jeannette

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    From what I gathered, Israel began to have a close relationship with the Northern part of Iraq, (probably because it needed its oil), and it might be the real reason for the friction between Israel and Turkey. I know the incident outside of Gaza, in which some Turks were killed was a set up by Erdogan. I'm sure Turkey considered them expendable, and probably even notified Israel that there were activists/terrorists on board. It seems Israel knew exactly who each person was.

    Israel did a lot of things in support of Turkey, but the friendship between the Turks and the Jews goes back hundreds of years. The Turkish lobby was united with AIPAC, so I'm sure a lot of what AIPAC supported, such as the invasion of Serbia over Kosovo, was because of Turkish influence. In a way Israel got what it deserved by a back stabbing Turkey.

    What is strange is that the Turkish lobbyist in Washington is pushing for Turkey to become the transit point for the Israeli gas into Europe, and yet Erdogan is screwing it up. Is it because Erdogan believes Obama will force Israel to bow down to his terms...such as getting rid of the blockade on Gaza? One can only wonder...:confuse:
     
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    Dont try to promote the struggle against pkk terrorist organization as a military campaign against regular kurds.You read too much of pkk's propaganda media organs it seems.
     
  13. moon

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    Job done. Kerry is anti-Turkish, pro-ethnic cleansing. US of AIPAC reputation remains in the sewer despite new faces. Best get these things out of the way before any more shams of ' honest brokery '.
     
  14. litwin

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    its not 100% true , In Spain the Jews were near the kings and queens sometimes they were richer then the kings and Catholic nobilities what they get in Ottoman empire? they all became peasants , many Jews felt that Sultans fooled them to OE in order to get some silver coins (jizya )
     
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    In 1492 Queen Isabella and Ferdinand expelled all the Jews and Muslims, so the Sultan invited them into the Ottoman Empire. Most of them went to the Greek city of Thessaloniki, and it was always considered the largest Jewish city in the world. I came across some writings by the Venetians in the twelfth century, and they mention how many Jews lived in each town in Greece. When the Ottomans captured these places, the Jews were allowed to live inside the castles with the Turks, while the Greeks and Latins lived outside, so they must have had a close relationship.

    I could get into more gory details, about how the Jews did a lot of the dirty work for the Turks...especially towards priests, but there was evil people on both side of the fence, so best not to mention these things. Of course they were all fighting for their survival... :pray:
     
  16. Jeannette

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    Moon, the U.S. wonders why Turkey is always so outspoken about attrocities against Sunnis, and could care less about attrocities towards, Shias, Christians, and Alawites? Is there a double standard there? :confuse:
     
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    This might surprise you, Jeanette, but I completely ignore anything related to religion in my observations of politics. That's because I agree with the premise that it's ' the opium of the people ' and I do not view it as a prime mover for intelligent politics. It's used to control and to contain and, I am absolutely certain, thinking people would rather be free of it- if only their brute and beastly overseers would allow. It's a crime to brainwash children and if we could but prevent their brainwashing today then the world would be a finer place within a decade.
    Turkey's issue with Israel is the neoZionists' murder of Turks. Muddying the waters with religious fervour is cheap and , ultimately, senseless.
     
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    not really they , Jews have been the just loyal "citizens" of the OE, not like you guys)
     
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    As the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. In the Jewish mind the Christians were their enemies, so the Muslim Turks and Jews had a kinship there. They did do the dirty work for the Turks, and one of the cruelest was towards a Venetian in Cyprus. The Venetians of course retaliated on them in Venice...so contrary to what many Jews believe, they were not innocent angels. But then again, they had to prove their loyalty to the Ottomans....:worship:
     
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    links? what did they do to V.?
     
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    Their defenses are helping them so far. They've got some new anti missile thing I heard about that helps the civilians when terrorists specifically target these civilians to be murdered. It is helping these civilians that developed the land feel less "poisicuted".
     
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    How's this for ' poisicuted ' :

    Whilst attention is turned to the brutal actions of the Egyptian junta , the Syrian civil war and the phony ' peace ' negotiations in Washington the neoZionist regime continues its killing of Palestinians , ethnic cleansing and the theft of Palestinian territory.
     
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    now you know the 'jewish minds'?
     
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    RT viral;

    The Zionist regime is racist. They offer you ethnic cleansing via building regulations drawn up by ethnic cleansers.
     
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    My muslim friend recently went on an interfaith school trip to Palestine/Israel. She couldn't speak for a month upon her return from the pain of what she saw- particularly the illegal settlements. They also took her computer. I wonder how long Allah will allow the brutal occupation of Palestinians to continue and the constant, leaching on U.S. to start war in every damn Arab country on behalf of the Zionists. Naziism fell. So shall zionism. Both are extreme, totalitarian, mounstrous idealogies. I hope I can see it in my lifetime.
     

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