Erdogan; Zionism is a " crime against humanity "

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  1. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

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    I still think one of the worst war crimes you can do is to attack farmers, fishermen and the food supply, or restrict farming. Why would Israelis need to do this? "Security" to stop all the produce projectiles being launched at Israel?

    And if rockets aren't currently firing, and Israel aren't being attacked by anybody, why would they STILL continue establishing additional checkpoints? This fact, and also that they are on Palestinian land, and not the border, proves it has NOTHING to do with security.

    I think they are just trying to make their lives hell in order to drive them away.
     
  2. Taxcutter

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    Erdogan better learn from Egypt.

    Forget Israel and take care of business in Turkey.

    Morsi didn't and now he's in deep merde.
     
  3. Jeannette

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    I have news for Erdogan, he's a crime against humanity. The only thing he's consistent in is the inconsistency in anything he says and does.

    Isn't it about time he started telling his people the truth, and why he's hated by all his neighbors....Uhhh, except maybe the Chechnyans? :roflol:

    He must be getting a great deal of respect at the U.N. considering Turkey's illegal occupation of Cyprus, among everything else......like for instance helping the Al Nusra terrorists enter Syria. :disbelief:
     
  4. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not sure, but I think the good relations the Israelis had with the Kurds was what cause the break up with Turkey. The Mavi Marmara incident was just a set up. The Turks are good at those things...
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A Jew skinned alive one of the leading Venetians in Cyprus for the Ottomans after he surrendered the city. The Venetians were so appalled that they retaliated on the Jews in Venice. There were other things, but as I said I would rather not get into it. The problem with the Jews is they keep licking their wounds on their suffering in Eastern Europe, and have no knowledge of the crimes they committed. But again Jews like others, will do anything for survival.
     
  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I read nothing about the killing of Palestinians in what you posted, only about arrests...which I'm sure were well deserved. Yet you find this more important than the hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria, the killings of hundreds of civilian Kurds and Christians, including children by Al Nusra terrorists, as well as Chechnyan and Turkish mercenaries. Yet in a previous post you said you pay no attention to religions when all the killings going on in that part of the world is because of religious differences and strife.

    Seems to me you are totally indifferent to the sufferings and loss of human life, and can see things only in terms of reclaiming Jerusalem for Islam. :confuse:


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    I read nothing about the killing of Palestinians in what you posted, only about arrests...which I'm sure were well deserved. Yet you find this more important than the hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria, the killings of hundreds of civilian Kurds and Christians, including children by Al Nusra terrorists, as well as Chechnyan and Turkish mercenaries. Yet in a previous post you said you pay no attention to religions when all the killings going on in that part of the world is because of religious differences and strife.

    Seems to me you are totally indifferent to the sufferings and loss of human life, and can see things only in terms of reclaiming Jerusalem for Islam. :confuse:
     
  7. moon

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    That might be a private matter between you and your optician.

    Of course, these periodic reports only list the crimes of the past week or two. This particular one chronicles the murder of just one Palestinian- along with many other crimes committed by the illegal Occupiers- but these murders are frequent events. Fortunately, the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights maintains a data-base of all these reports along with all the relevant details which any interested reader will find summarised at the foot of every list of crimes.;
    http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/i...-august-2013-&catid=84:weekly-2009&Itemid=183

    http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=84&Itemid=183


    Who supports this illegal occupation ? To a great extent the US taxpayer does, like it or not, but other AIPAC-associated organisations do too- and they care not one hoot if their activities are illegal;

     
  8. Gilos

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    What incident are you talking about or is it a general "rage" post ?

    Ridiculous while there are org that defy Hamas and PLO and try to commit attacks, that said I dont trust Hamas either.
     
  9. happy fun dude

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    Chopping down of olive trees and attacking fishermen and farmers and such and burning crops. We had this very conversation before and you acknowledged there were attacks against food and that those responsible should be brought to justice. I remember it because I was happy and praised you for it.

    You not trusting people doesn't mean there's a threat. This will only increase your threat, because you provoke them. How can the checkpoints provide more security? You're only delaying people going from one part of their own country to another. They're not border crossings.

    They are just another way to make Palestinian's lives even more unendurable.

    Nevertheless, like transfer of civilians into occupied territories, restricting the free movement of civilians is against the law.
     
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    Yea but the last event was when ? nothing recent if I recall yet the post states "the Israelis continue to do...." as it happened just a few days ago.

    Also, you will agree I hope that Palestinian sources will never say a fisherman is a smuggler and its a fact there are smugglers in Gaza as both Israel and Egypt agree, so you can do the math.



    How do you suppose weapons and bombs make their way from the producer to the terrorists and from there to Israel ?

    I dont like that reality either but itys one thing to hope for the best and another to lower your shields, worst case ppl will die ........, not acceptable.
     
  11. moon

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    The report covers the past two weeks.

    How many Israeli smugglers have they harassed and shot lately ?




    Please link us to confirmed arrests of Palestinian smugglers and show us proof of the ...er.....contriband.

    The IOF has no qualms about killing Palestinians. Read the recent PCHR report.
    http://www.pchrgaza.org/portal/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=84&Itemid=183
     
  12. Gilos

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    No "crop burning" and "tree uprooting", only arrests, naturally there is the other side of the coin here.



    Far too many, that's why we are having the driest period in ages in terms of :weed:, damn Zionists...........






    Not going to but the news headers note these events from time to time, in the Israeli news they are either smugglers or scouts sent to check Israeli posts way beyond the "border". in Palestinian news thet are always orphants that scrach for food and get arrested....


    It comes down to the soldier on the field, if he thinks there is a risk then he can make an arrest according to regulations, ofc they shoot when they recognize a threat, its their job.
     
  13. happy fun dude

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    I didn't use those words. The recent events are documented in post 97.

    You have any proof these fishermen were smugglers? How come you shoot at them?

    Nothing can get into Israel because you can do all the screenings you want at your border, like any normal country.

    As I said, you would have less of a chance of people dying if you stopped making all their lives hell and discontinued the provocation. When was the last time an Israeli living in Israel got killed that you know to be Palestinian fault?

    BTW, you quoted, but didn't comment about the illegality of the checkpoints and colony transfer. What do you think about the fact that both of these are against the law?
     
  14. happy fun dude

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    Nobody claimed those happened in the last two weeks.

    I merely said attacking food supplies and harvesters is among my least favorite war crimes. You asked like what and I gave you examples. Different things are done at different times but food attacks in one form or another are ongoing.
     
  15. Gilos

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    Im not investigating arrests, I know there is a line Hamas agreed not to cross yet ppl do cross it and get arrested, I know there are smugglers and that they smuggle throu the sea and underground tunnels. they are being shot at when they commit an offense and try to run away , soldiers will alawys assume the worst like terror, thats why they are there for, but there are regulations to that as well.


    lol, not really, and any country would do the same if it had such close proximity to their enemies.

    No I dont belive that, its much much more than smile to them and they will smile to you, only a signed agrrement will lift those blockades and some of the settelments, nothing else.
     
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    But its not state orders, the state fights it, these ppl are called as criminals, true there arent many arrests but still I would be happy if the Palestinians would name their own terrorists as well, those that actually murder etc', that would be nice.
     
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    Exactly!

    The 900-Pound-Gorilla cannot be hidden any more.

    If somebody cannot see this gorilla yet, then he still sees the world through the "magic" Zionist glasses.
     
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    i refereed to Junta´s time, it can no be any form of friendship between Turkey and and Israel today
     
  19. happy fun dude

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    Some kind of regulations, when you said they shoot people in the back assuming they are terrorists! What offense?

    If you don't investigate these crimes, how do you know the fisherman are smugglers?!?! Smuggling weapons? Are you finding lots of weapons? Or unauthorized calories?

    You can speak on behalf of every country!

    So it's only when, or if Israel choose to give it back. But Net. says Israel are keeping every single settlement they have built, are building or will build. And they can do that perpetually. And demand any terms they want or just refuse to sign. You think Israel can do this per Resolution 242?!?!? You know the checkpoints and settlements are illegal.
     
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    Which murders are you on about?
     
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    The only gorilla in the room is the fact that this population that has supposedly been ethnically cleansed for over 60 years, only continues to grow.
     
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    But not in the country it has been ethnically cleansed from. That's the part you'd rather overlook.
     
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    And the true crime against humanity of Islam which dominated the UNGA through the OIC repealed it. Now let's be real, Islam has been genocidal and imperialistic since its birth under the schizophrenic ramblings of the false pedophile prophet who declared himself to be the lord of the pagans, and that is if he even existed because all evidence dictates that Mecca did not become a trading post until long after the mass murderers death.

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    You are exactly right in the apartheid ethnically lands of dar al-Islam genocide is the name of the game and pedi's are the players/
     
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    Won't you tell us again how Hitler was misunderstood and the holocaust never happened, interested parties want to know lmfao ha ZIG SMILE
     
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    Including Israel AND the territories. The arab populations have continued to grow. The delusions of your ideologies prevent you from seeing the real world in front of you. ~ Edit/focus on the topic ~
     

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