Events similar to 9/11: Pirelli Tower, Empire State Building

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  1. holston

    holston Banned

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    No, circa 1960's. Read the articles I posted.
    If I supply evidence to support that contention you will run to the moderators to have me banned for being off topic.

    It should be apparent by now to anyone who has followed this thread what faction presents the main impediment to 9/11 truth.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Wir sind die braunen soldaten,eh Adolf?
     
  3. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    The impediment to 911 truth is evidence which is why the movement is dead.
     
  4. holston

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    Are you advocating that we should forget about it?

    If so, may I suggest a few other things we may forget about while we are at it which are much further removed in history?

    http://www.educationbeyondborders.org/profiles/blogs/warren-commission-moot-court-may-29-2014
    http://costsofwar.org/article/economic-cost-summary


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    Just never you mind about the numbers of American (non-Jewish) servicemen who sacrificed themselves on the alter of bringing in a "Mashianic Age", let alone th"**********s" that were "liberated".

    I just wanted to put the matter in a perspective that even the likes of YOU could appreciate, not that it matters to you how much of OTHER PEOPLE's MONEY gets wasted.


    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/12/31/678817/-Who-owns-the-Holocaust-update


    If the statute of limitations has expired on the perpetrators of 9/11, they should have expired a long time ago on the "Nazi" war criminals you regularly sue for more reparations. Need we be reminded of it every day? To what end?

    What are you people going to do after the last person alive during WWII dies? Commit a false flag attack on yourselves so you can blame a new generation?


    Better yet. Let's just forget about history altogether. Have people ever learned from it? Did the Jewish Supremacists?


    Hitler has been dead a long time now. But youskies can't refrain from resurrecting his ghost almost daily. The same thing is true about the likes of Richard Nixon. He once said, "You won't have Tricky Dick to kick around anymore." Boy, did he underestimate the Jewish press.
    I'm convinced that you'd drag his corpse around in the street if you could get away with it, along with anyone else who dares insult your majesty or question your authority, especially in areas like 9/11 which you are particularly sensitive to.


    Since "9/11 TRUTH" movement is dead as you would have it, I guess we can now defund and disband the Department of "Homeland Security" as well as the "War on Terror".

    If you can't bring yourself to stop "beating this dead horse" then perhaps we should find out WHO was responsible for initiating it since no one to date has ever been formerly indicted or brought to trial for it, much less convicted. Or is that no more important than the PUT options which some say indicated a 99% chance of prior knowledge of 9/11?

    You never did say who it was that failed to step up and claim their millions in profits. The 9/11 Commission has already said that they were NOT connected to any "terrorist" organizations so don't bother looking there.
     
  5. Hannibal

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    Forget about the 'truth movement'? No, future CTers need to see how to not run a 'movement'.
     
  6. holston

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    For one thing, they shouldn't elect Jews to head up their campaigns. You see what happened to the Tea Party bunch when they adopted Sarah ZIO Palin as their mascot.

    http://septembereleventh.org/alerts/asner.php

    But don't worry. We crypto-truthers will make sure that nothing comes of it. AND MAKE A PROFIT TO BOOT!

    So keep that dough rollin' in! We'll use it ( at least part of it) to put up signs that the NY Kahilla can laugh at.


    But let's give the devil the benefit of a doubt, which is more than the Kosher media is willing to give 9/11 Truth. For at least he admits this much:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kehilla

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    Makes you feel all safe and secure knowing that these men have YOUR best interest at heart, doesn't it?




    Who can say for sure. Maybe Ed Asner is really sincere in his expressed desire to get at the truth.

    But that would make him "a self-hating Jew" then. Wouldn't it?

    [video=youtube;zlHMlxmtB48]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlHMlxmtB48[/video]
    [video=youtube;Pp-rAswo4Xg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-rAswo4Xg[/video]
     
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    You will notice that Asner admits he's a Socialist in this interview. He tries to exonerate all the actors in Hollywood for their cowardice over 9/11. And he hardly says a word about 9/11 anyway.
    The RT host speaks of the industrialists as though they are the ones to blame for everything, as if industry is the root of all evil.

    This is what happened to the Tea Party and it's what happens anytime a gentile elects a Jew to head any sort of social or political campaign. They either subvert it to their own interests or derail the thing altogether. In the end the Jews always wind up profiting by the whole thing because that's the idea in the first place.

    It's OK for any group or "tribe" of people to join together for to work for their own interests. It's not alright when they do so at the expense of outsiders. This is the way the Jewish Union plays the game. It's the reason that they wind up with the highest per capita income and occupying an inordinate number of powerful and lucrative positions. It's the way in which the Zionist agenda has come to preside over all other interests in the US.

    And it's this sort of subterfuge that winds up causing others to become "anti-semitic" as you are fond of calling it.

    What gripes my craw is that while you people play favorites among your own and double team the gentile competition you are making social demands and rules that are designed to prevent and prohibit anyone else outside your "tribe" from doing the same thing.

    This is exactly what you have been doing when you have attacked the "WASP" establishment over "discrimination", bigotry, and "racism". Anyone who calls YOUR hand on it you call an "anti-semite" or Nazi.


    It's clear enough to me that a cabal of Zionists were behind the false flag attack of 9/11 whether they set it up or just allowed it to happen.
    And the reason why nothing has ever come of it is because so many of them occupy key positions of power in Washington, Intelligence Law Enforcement agencies such as the NSA, FBI, and CIA, and the control monetary system in such a way as to keep a sufficient number of gentile helpers working for you. And you run the media so that the evidence of 9/11 is suppressed.
    You can say what you want about me, but this is the way I see it so I cannot say otherwise and be honest about what I think at the same time.
     
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    You could save a lot of bandwidth by just saying: "Because the Jews."
     
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    No one is going to forget 911.

    The problem as I stated clearly is that the truther movement has no evidence of their claims. Least of all you.

    I am fine with ending the war on terror and disbanding the Department of Homeland security but that is not related to who commited the terrorist attacks of 911.

    You are in fact the first person on this thread to resurrect Hitler and no one here has sued Germany for reperations.

    You are all over the map but still have nothing
     
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    There are ten 911's every year in the USA as another 30,000 Americans are shot to death by Americans.
     
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    riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

    well they should have been armed!

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    Which only goes to show how bogus the war on "terror" is..... and has been since they used it to gut the Bill of Rights and Constitution.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The same people that orchestrated 9/11 also want to confiscate weapons from US citizens.
     
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    they look everywhere but in the mirror
     
  14. holston

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    Not if I can help it.

    They won't forget that the case was never closed either.

    So you keep saying. Those that have been following these discussions can see for themselves.

    It most certainly is.



    What do you call a person who knowingly says things that aren't true? I'm not permitted to say.

    You mean you have been dressed up one side and down the other and still have no reply.

    I don't think you've answered a single question I've put to you the entire time you've been on, typical Hasbara behavior.
     
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    No,there aren't...
     
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    That's the problem, not the solution.

    The financing by the gun lobby being necessary for the survival of politicians, the right of madmen to slaughter children shall not be infringed.
     
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    This really isn't the board to spout your raging hoplophobia
     
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    No I have not been dressed down you have simply babbled without presenting evidence
     
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    You need to back up your claims with evidence.

    Try selecting some of my previous posts to illustrate your point, preferably one with links to pertinent information.

    I expect you to continue to dodge the subject by attempting to make this a personal attack rather than one that addresses the subject itself.

    Let me help you out Mr "Nazi". Rather than "soupNazi" why not "Matzi-ball soup"?... or "soupMatzi"?



    I interpret this to mean that in order to make the Progressive Collapse Theory seem reasonable, it's proponents must introduce fudge factors which exaggerate the momentum of the falling upper portion by giving them more weight than they had, allowing them to begin as a free fall for the full distance of one or two floors, and then underestimate the increasing strength all the remaining intact steel frame below the crash zone.

    This seems reasonable to me since the random nature of the crash damage as well as the spread, intensity, and duration of the fires would probably NOT create a pattern of damage which was symmetrical enough to allow for the simultaneous collapse of all remaining supports. The simultaneous collapse of all remaining structures would be necessary in order to get the upper portion of the building to strike the lower portion in such a way as to cause the ensuing collapse to continue STRAIGHT DOWN, as was observed.

    This is the way the INTENTIONAL verinage demolition is conducted.

    According to the debunker hypothesis, no such regulation as that which is seen in verinage is permissible, otherwise they would have to admit a controlled demolition.

    So what we are told that happened, collapse due to the secondary random effects of fire and damage, does not match what was observed, ie a collapse approaching free fall speeds where they should not be observed, and in a procession which allowed the STRAIGHT DOWN collapse of the entire structures with no deviation from that course.

    We are expected to believe that this occurred, not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES in a row, on the same day, in the same locality under a process which was heretofore unheard of and unseen in steel framed high risers.


    The unlikelihood of these events coupled with all the extraneous circumstantial evidence which showed prior knowledge cause many HIGHLY EDUCATED and WELL QUALIFIED men of various branches of science and fields of study to question the "official" explanation.

    Why would these men subject their reputations and careers to the kinds of attacks which people like yourself and mostly by those whose positions in high places gave them ample opportunity to do them real damage?

    What possible motive could those professionals have to place themselves in such jeopardy?


    You can turn that around and ask what motives their attackers could have by launching such a massive propaganda and smear campaign against them.
    The answers are fairly obvious, to hide the fact that they had foreknowledge of the attacks and probably participated in orchestrating their occurrence.

    Those people would have had the means, THE MOTIVE, AND the OPPORTUNITY.

    No other people could have.

    We see all the evidence we need to BACK this SUPPOSITION up in the ensuing wars which have been waged against ALL countries surrounding Israel. Those same countries were marked for "regime change" by none other than Richard Perle who is on tape naming them PRIOR to 9/11!

    So it isn't that there is no evidence to support the controlled demolitions theory. It's that there is so much of it, that the problem of how to present all of it in a neat, easily grasp, fully documented, and concise package is almost impossible.

    Given the average sound bite is seldom over a minute or two, and our entertainment inundated society is likely to lose interest in reading much more than a sentence or a paragraph, they can't reasonably expect anyone to hand them the entire body of evidence within that allotted time and space and expect it all to be backed up by citations and indisputable records of events.

    Ignorance, like the media, is on your side Mazti.

    But I prefer to go with the truth, even if one has to work a bit in order to get it.

    Unlike the Machiavellian tribe to which you belong, I believe in the end the truth will come out and justice will prevail, even if it is postponed until judgement day, which the Sanhedrin don't believe in at all.
    That's what separates believers from nonbelievers and the goats from the lambs. The unbelievers believe only in what they can see and touch with their senses. Their Gods are made of tinsel and their bellies are their guides.
    Whatever is expedient, whatever achieves the gratification of their senses and the consummation of their lusts is all "morally" justified according to their "humanistic" and SUPREMACIST credo.

    No thanks, I'd just as soon take my stand among the "losers". May your money molder with you.
     
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    "Because Jews".
     
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    "Because Blacks".

    "Because Jews".
     
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    no, in fact not only did you NOT get it you arent even in the same universe.
     
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    Evidently there's too much reading for our scoffers.
    They show as little industry in their replies. One wonders how much time and effort they would devote to the mathematical proofs they keep demanding.

    [video=youtube;NiHeCjZlkr8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHeCjZlkr8[/video]
     
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    tell you what, when you can write me an insurance policy that you will protect me and everyone else from all crime including government then I will come over to your side until then they should have been armed. dummies.
     
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