Everything Just Went Over The Side

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  1. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Hi Rev,,,agreed. The people threw out the Dems over Health care before, no reason to think they wont again,,,I think this is a pure gift to Romni. It's a Tax, and Obama lying for support is obvious. Cant wait to see some Town Halls now...LOL
     
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    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Agreed, this political climate is Toxic to spenders and that's why it was so important to not make it a Tax. The people that were angry before are twice as angry, and the ones that believed Obama are betrayed. I believe this may just bring out record new voters, maybe the largest numbers we have ever seen.
    If the Repubs leave this issue they will blow it,,it's easy to understand and everybody already knows the economy is screwed. They have to pound this issue, heck even people who normally carry health Ins are in jeopardy, anybody can find themselves in a bind, and skip a year of coverage,,,what happens then?...Your involved with the IRS.....PERFECT!!!
    Who the hell would want a law like that?
    It's them that decides if you can afford it or not, so the deadbeats will remain the same. It will be the same people sucking off us only this time the decent people are FORCED to support them, and it's the decent people that will be threatened by the IRS,,,,just great!!

    This is the Obama ''change'',,,if you work and earn like a normal responsible human being, don't slip up,,,,OR.....

    WE WILL GET YOU!!!!

    It's not the hard working guy that goes without Ins now and then that are the moochers, and they are not the ones that take up the emergency rooms. It's the same thing with car Ins,,,is it the normally hard worker that drives with no Ins CONSTANTLY??,,,,,,or is it the very people who are hiding a car from the welfare Office in the first place!!!!

    If this thing cant be repealed then at the very least if a person shows they have normally carried health Ins through the years then there should be no TAX!!
     
  3. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    The Policies and Actions of the Left are very Predicatable, if also contemptable.

    When in a "Bind" as you say, there will be very subjective, political and RACIAL forgiveness or strict enforcement, depending on what will create the most dependancy and power for the Democrat Pandering Machine.

    Don't under estimate the subtle and under-the-radar racial preferences parts of the ObamaCare Legislation. At first glance, it appears to be just a take-over of the funding for Doctor and Nursing Education, but it has been VERY carefully worded and crafted to insure that it is both vague and encompassing enough to be expanded after general acceptance to cover just about every facet of Higher Education.

    The Democratic Party has become a Nightmare and needs to go the way of the Wigs and Bullmoose parties, to be replaced by the TEA Party.
     
  4. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    It's a shame that these people cant see that the Tea party is what's new and different. Love your country, be responsible....


    How refreshing and NEW is THAT????......
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    My thoughts exactly. The last time I voted a two party candidate was in 1996.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    How very true. Why self-proclaimed intelligent people can't grasp this is beyond me...
     
  7. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    Well, several days later, and many news reports readings of forum posts later, and think the Original Post is correct, the election is now a referendum on ObamaCare, with the Presidency and the Democrats in Congress being ousted integrally tied to the Repeal Movement.

    The OP is right; the election is now a simple one issue election.

    I wonder if Justice Roberts deliberately chose his switch for that reason, or was it just a random outcome?
     
  8. bdtex

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    Favor it.
     
  9. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    You know I thought the very same thing, especially after what he said about choosing who you elect. Suppose for a minute he was really against this law, but knew the only way to be truly out of it was if Obama lost. I cant think of a single thing besides the economy that would make people take a special liking to Romney, he needed something else. Sure, if he was a Christie he would have no problem winning with just the economy,,but he aint no Christie.
    Roberts might figure,,,cut the head off the snake,,and you got the tail as well.
     
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    Don't think the Tea Party will drop this one.

    Until November, this is the litmus test:

    Do you support or oppose a complete repeal of ObamaCare?

    Nothing else matters.
     
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    I will vote for a Dem or Repub if they do not totally repulse me AND it will lead to gridlock. But for the most part I live in a district in a state where my vote does matter. The outcome of nearly election is known far before the voting occurs. But on the rare occasion that my vote for someone will likely lead to gridlock and a government that cannot get anything done, I will do it.
     
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    The Democratic Party has shown itself to be Corrupt and Institutionally Anti-White Racist beyond any Redemtion. I will ALWAYS vote Against Democrats, and for who ever has the best, most pragmatic chance of keeping the Democrat out of office.

    That usually means voting for Republican, at the moment.

    In time, when the Democrats are largely defeated and gone, there will come a time when the choice is between the TEA Party and the Republican.
     
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    And look how great that has worked.
     
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    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    Yeah! Wasn't 2010 Grand! and 2012 will be even better! :)
     
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    We are in the shape we are in because of both parties equally. It may take you another 10 years to see that, but hopefully there will be time to fix it. You are just one of millions who bought the Great Lie.
     
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    Wait my friend...there is much more than this one dumb and improper law.The main issue, at least to me, is his philosophical differences with our founding fathers. They would have kicked him squrely in his posterior had he been alive and in any impotant position back then. Today should be no different. So kick his butt out by voting Romney.
     
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    If your Government can now Tax you for anything at all, yes your life has changed. It's like if you said,,,''What do I care if the Government taxed all women that did not wear scarfs over their heads, it does not change my life''

    Soon, that head may be yours......
     
  18. stekim

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    Since when could they not? I pay more taxes than I can count.
     
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    Yeah! The vast majority of your Tea Party morons that swept into office in 2010 have changed NOTHING!
     
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    4 months ago it was the deficit, and nothing else mattered.

    3 months ago it was jobs and nothing else mattered.

    2 months ago it was gas prices, and nothing else mattered.

    Last month it was the economy, and nothing else mattered.

    Now it's Obamacare, and nothing else matters.

    Fickle lot.
     
  21. Kurmugeon

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    Its not the fact that they have a new way to tax you at all!

    The ObamaCare bill represents THREE very important and detrimental departures from traditional America:

    1] The bill was "Passed" via a process that does not even appoximate Democracy. We had Big Pharma, Big Health Insurance and Socialist Radicals working in the back rooms of congressman's offices to write / re-write legislation even as the partisan domination of the congressional floor was forcing a vote on a bill that was not justbipartisan debated, but it was un-read, because it wasn't even completely written! All the while the main stream press is complicite in a vain and almost humorous attempt to white wash the sorted affair with a level of sycophantic, biased cheer leading that should have made any true journalist sick.

    2] The new mandate to buy or pay "Taxes" opens a whole new door for federal corruption!

    In the beginning, you paid your taxes, same as anybody else.

    Then some corrupt politician created the idea of "Progressive" taxes, where "Some Animals are just MORE equal than others..." And from it we got the graft and corruption of the multi-volume TAX CODE. Anyone with enough money can now buy themselves and exemption, just cross the politicians palm with enough "Donations".

    No doubt inspired by the level of political power and money obtained by selling the details of the new inequality, some other corrupt politician created the concept of the "Sin" taxes, where demonizing a product or service results not the "EVIL" product being BANNED (which it should be, were it ever really so bad), but given a special tax to GUILD our behavior. So Alcohol, Tobacco, Ammunition, Yachts, Muscle Cars and what not all now get a special tax for being so wrong we have to be driven away ( but never so much as to reduce the take!)

    With that accomplished, we moved on the corruption of the "Saint" tax breaks, with special "oohhhhhh Wonderful Green Energy" new industries receiving much lower to no taxes, or worse outright government subsidies which undermined the production and competition incentives of free markets to the greed and inefficiency of back room government deals.

    Well, now with the new health care bill as precedent, we enter a whole new era of government involvement in controlling and wrecking our lives, Government can now decide what you can purchase and how much of your paycheck you’re going to spend on it! Just give it a few years, and won’t even need a bank account or a receipt file, because you’ll never make a single decision about how your money is spent and what products you receive, CONGRESS will make all those decisions FOR YOU!

    So much for advertising companies, no need anymore, unless you’re selling airtime and ads directed toward convincing Senators. We don’t want those “Common People” out there making their own purchasing decisions!

    3] Let not forget my personal favorite part of the ObamaCare bill, the Institutionalized Racial Discrimination in Higher Education!

    It is Legal and even admirable to judge and deny someone an education based solely by their paint-job and plumbing, as long as you’re the Government, and you dump on white men!


    It is NOT the Money that’s the problem, it is the Corruption!
     
  22. stekim

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    Are you saying that voting for Republicans leads to maintaining the status quo? No way.
     
  23. Taxcutter

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    Let's put some more Tea Partiers in we'll see action.

    Repeal and recission.
     
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    Yes, because 2010's Tea Party elected changed SO MUCH.
     
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    Definitively yes.
    They will bow to the will of the FED directive.
     

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