Everything Just Went Over The Side

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  1. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    When Obama retakes the Executive and the American Stock Market & Dollar Collapse, the FED won't have so much clout or importantance or influence anymore...
     
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    sure it will. It's whores in washington will force us to turn over our dollars for a new dollar that the FED issues, perhaps ten old dollars for one new dollar, for the sake of argument. Then it will pass a law that all old bank debts must be paid off in "new dollars" according to the specified number of dollars on the promissory note.
     
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    Yes, everything you've stated here is true, but if Obozo wins or more likely, voter-fraud Steals re-election, the Dollar and the American Stock markets will shortly thereafter collapse, the world will turn from the Dollar as the international standard currency and use most likely the Chinese Yuan in its place.


    At that point, the Fed can stamp, scream and holler all it wants, the Dollar printing presses running a Quantitative Easing full speed, and the world will watch America sink below the waves of Obozo ineptitude with a smirk and a chuckle.


    If Obozo wins/steals 2012, America as we've known it is a goner...
     
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    Not hardly, and I'd suggest that your Sky Is Falling Syndrome is unhealthy.
     
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    You ain't gonna kick tyranny out by voting, that is exactly what is going to cause more tyranny (giving this system even more power than it already has)
     
  6. Kurmugeon

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    Your Non-Logic Overwhelms me...
     
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    all the dollars being held by foreign creditors will end back up on the shores of the united states. We will no longer be able to export inflations while maintaining low domestic inflation. Instead, we will experience massive homegrown inflation and vital commodity scarcity. But not to worry, our homegrown military will be there to squash any civil unrest, assuring the control by our corporatist leaders.
     
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    like "the world will collapse if we don't bail out the trillionaire bankers" ?
     
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    I think massive American Inflationary Cycles has always been the Lefties un-announced plan to deal with the ridiculous deficits their Tax-N-Spend policies have created.


    Its just one more way to psuedo-legally Rob the Wealth of the Producers and re-distribute it to the moochers, looters, and race baiting bureaucrats.


    The fiscal disaster of the last four years brought to us by President Obama and the Democrats is not an accident, it is not incompetence, it is not an oversight and it is not a miscalculation.
     
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    only the disaster is a bipartisan effort, a long time in the making.
     
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    Moral hazard problems everything, complete lack of appropriate incentives and an implicit (turned out to be explicit) guarantee to creditors.

    How soon so many forget the savings and loan crisis.
     
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    Indeed. Some people choose to forget that we were already falling on our faces at the end of Bush II, and that the banker bailout was already in the works before Obama took office. After so much of this sort of tag-team collusion, one would think that people would start to wake up to the fact that voting D or R is not the answer to anything.
     
  13. Kurmugeon

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    While the making of the fiscal disaster is bi-partisan, I see allot more Rs than Ds calling for spending restraint.

    More importantly, as a lower middle class worker just trying to survive, I see almost no Rs saying that I (and my Son's-in-law, Grandsons, and extended family ) are disqualified, excepted, exempted, shut out, denied, un-deserving, guilty and thereby punished for being a "Dirty White Male".

    Survival in a society which ever more socialistic, and suffering from bad economics, means that being denied by the government based on RACE is ever more destructive.

    The Democrats have chosen be the Party of Institutionalized Racial Discrimination, therefore, the choice is easy, Romney is in, and Obama and the Racists are out.
     
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    it makes for good theatre. Where were these calls in 2002 ?

    divide and conquer. Works to perfection.
     
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    The big banks keep all profits and have their losses socialized.
    This of course, is for our own good.
     
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    I support National Health Care and also feel Obama did not go far enough!

    I love that the Conservatives are banking this is the hot button issue for most Americans, LOL.
     
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    i bet you believe in lots of "free" things being taken from others and given to you.
     
  18. Kurmugeon

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    But only if you're one of the Approved by Paint-Job & Plumbing version of American, otherwise, when you go to apply, you'll find that Pale-Males don't "Qualify".

    As George Orwell said it in Animal Farm

    "All Animals are Created Equal, Some are just MORE Equal than Others"

    And this is why Socialism will always fail...
     
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    George Orwell, great comparison. Might as well throw Ayn Rand in there too. Animal Farm was a novel that didn't come true, the only reason it sold a single copy was because of the Cold War. The lack if intellectualism in this debate is epic. Unless Obama is caught beating puppies Romney has no chance, although the election will be closer than it should be. One could make the argument that our over-paid CEO's are the more equal animals, but that would be an insult to mother nature. The ACA will become the basis for a single payer insurance plan in the future, you guys will whine and snivel through each new law that is passed and slowly the US will join the rest of the modern world. The thought of hearing you guys ape the FOX news line over and over for the next few years and dragging out your tea-bagger nut cases like they have some sort of cachet in these matters makes for a daunting future. The sad part of all this is that someone told you guys that we are practicing capitalism or at least have been in the past, rather than actually study the theory you just listen to the 15 sec sound bytes that the Koch bros pay for and believe it like a religion. Sheep.
     
  20. RedRepublic

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    I agree with what you said, except for animal farm. The book was actually rejected by publishers because they didn't want to be seen as criticizing the USSR. Orwell was a socialist himself who was distraught about the way the USSR went, and the book is a fair allegory for what happened.
     
  21. Kurmugeon

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    Divide... Maybe, for awhile.


    At some point, and we reached that point for my family personally many years ago, it goes from dividing us as White, Latino, Black and playing us off against one another, to becoming:

    Those who believe in an American Meritocracy were we aim to treat everyone equally without regard to Paint-Job&Plumbing

    Vs.

    Those who misuse the impulse toward Racial/Gender/Preference Tribalism to Divide and Manipulate for power and profit



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    If those on the left who insist on misusing America's Civil Rights movement succeed at keeping this country in the mode of never ending Racial Preferences, then they've only awoken a Sleeping Giant; White Identity.

    ( I’d much rather NOT, I detest Racial Identity Politics, but that doesn’t mean I’m willing to just roll over and be “Kill some Cracker Babies”)


    Whites, male and female currently represent 66% of the population, and while we were shrinking, currently, due to intermarriage and growing Eastern European immigration, and growing birth rates (I have 5, soon to be 6 or more grandchildren), the White-Tribe will soon be gaining rather than losing population percentage in America.

    More and More, particularly driven by the poor economy and the need for lower and middle class families to have two incomes, White-Women don't see Affirmative Actions preferences as a bonus, but as the reason that their Husbands, Sons, Fathers, and Extended family are denied an education, job, or services.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/249280-go-ask-alice.html

    When White-Women are added to White-Men, they are simply the single LARGEST Voting BLOC, No other is even close.

    Note that Italian, Irish, Polish, Russian, French, Canadian, Anything "Pale" are all Lumped together in Identity Politics as being the "GUILTY" and therefore disenfranchised.

    Well, All those groups are not, or should I say were not, ONE Group.

    Furthermore, by the way the left has chosen to designate qualification for "AA Racial Preferences", 2nd-3rd Plus Generations of mixed race households always join the greater White-Tribe.

    The Democrat's Racial Preferences Pandering is sowing the seeds of their own demise.



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    You're going to get one or the other;

    A] a Race/Gender/Sexual Preference Neutral Society,

    or

    B] a Racial Preference Society with the single LARGEST, Most Politically Active, and Best Organized, Racial Voting Bloc being the White-Tribe.



    CHOOSE!​
     
  22. squidward

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    there will be no voting.
    This "white majority" will cede any last bit of power or wealth that it has to the state, in hopes of being rescued from the coming chaotic and desperate socioeconomic conditions.
     
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    the rest of the world is broke and has sold it's soul to trillionaire bankers, while the bankers' silly dupes cheer on the continued transfer of wealth.
    Throw down you pom-poms.
     
  24. Kurmugeon

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    It could go that way.

    But I don't think it will.

    Our history has shown that when Americans are hard pressed, they remember their pride, get their dander up, and find the resolve to get the difficult job(s) done and done well.

    We carved a prosperous nation from a wilderness, and we can re-build a prosperous nation based on the principles of self-reliance, innovation, hard-work, individual responsibility, and racial/gender/sexual-preference tolerance and neutrality.

    Granted, we'll have to start from the train wreck caused by dabbling with Liberalism/Socialism, but we've overcome worse in the past, and we're up to the challenge, all most Americans need is a kick-in-the-pants to get them started and someone willing to forge ahead leading the way.
     
  25. squidward

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    recent history has show our propensity to cede power and wealth in exchange for security.

    "we", meaning the people who did that, are dead. We, the people alive today, are absolutely unique from those of the past. We, meaning the majority of which you speak, will turn you over as a living sacrifice to the state, in hopes of a few more table scraps and a feeling of security.

    I pray you're right.
     

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