Ex-Soldier GOP Rep Admits He's A War Criminal & Killed Civilians

Are you a terrorist?

 

No, those guys in the picture are ISIS members though....

They only look like civilians.

 

It does not remotely imply extremely racist undertones. Demonization and depersonalization of the enemy in order to essentially murder them before they murder you, is an essential element of military training when going to war.

Hatred can be as great a motivator as fear.

If by doing his duty as an artillery officer he is a war criminal because his unit's barrages probably killed hundreds of civilians in enemy held positions, then nearly all war fighters can be called criminals as well.

 

Its difficukt to say exactly when islam declsred war on America

But it was well before we accepted the challenge and fought back

 

It is fair to criticize America for our colonialist period

But thats not the case today

 

Yeah we should have went home and let ISIS kill all the civilians instead.

Would that make you feel better morally.

 

He was an artillery officer, that means when he gets a fire mission, he commands the rounds to be fired. I don’t like the thought of killing civilians either but if you are taking enemy fire from a building, you level the F’n building.

 

But that's not what happened. You're assuming it did without first informing yourself of the issue. Because the facts just don't matter to you.

 

Kill them all. Let God sort them out. **** it. We should've nuked the whole country by that logic. The enemy were scattered everywhere. USA. USA.

 

You should probably educate yourself on artillery. You don’t know what you are firing on. You respond to a fire mission you receive from the front line from a foreword observer.

 

Yup. Fire on anything moves. That was the order.

 

Close to 1 million Iraqis were killed. Is that enough? How many is too much?

 

I see you tend toward absurdist strawman logic. War is a crime against humanity - period, regardless of which side of righteousness one is on.

Know any nation who went to war with another where they didn't kill any civilians in theatre?

 

Your own quote states that we failed to crush the resistance. Which means the resistance was likely substantial and widespread.

I've read a bit into the fighting in Fallujah. Just as an example- there were enemy tanks scattered through the tight urban streets, using the cover of buildings and alleys to overcome their range and armor limitations. They were not careful about firing through their own civilians or even through their own troops to try to get a kill on one of ours. Caution in such a chaotic environment spells defeat and death.

It also sounds as though you're unfamiliar with the tactic of waving a white flag while hiding a weapon as a means to lul your oppenent into a false sense of victory before you strike, or arming apparent noncombatants to acheive the same. Thats why they're called 'insurgents' instead of 'soldiers'- they're just regular folk til they whip out a rifle and start firing. Eventually, after enough 'civilians' turn out to be combatants out of uniform, tactics must adjust if victory is to be acheived.

To be clear, I wont deny attrocities were comitted- they clearly and provably were. But just because that is so doesnt mean everyone involved is guilty of them. Asymetrical warfare has created a vast sea of gray areas in the ethics/morals of combat, and since neither of us has sufficient perspective to judge, I'll lean on 'innocent until proven guilty.'

 

Google what a call for fire is.

 

A staple of US counterinsurgency doctrine has been to "dry up the ocean" to get the fish. Indiscriminate bombing and "pump & dump": paramilitary abductions and interrogations, torture, and US advisers looking the other way when they dump the bodies.

 

Islam, never has declared war on America. That's why it's difficult to say when.

 

War is atrocity. All this high falutin' sentiment is great for those not fighting on the pointed end with an enemy that does not recognize how war is "supposed" to be fought by convention.

Different warfare but I've just been watching a day of D Day stories, mostly about Juno beach and the Canadian war effort, particularly in Holland. Damn they were all so young. And they didn't have a clue what PTSD was back then. The greatest generation indeed.

 

Numerous muslims have shouted Death to America and backed it up with terrorist attacls

 

Or we could have stayed the **** out of Iraq to begin with, instead of following the desires of the NWO, big liberal government, banking and defense contracting whore neocons like Bush, Obama and Clinton

 

Other than finding and killing the ****s responsible for 9/11, I agree. Let them continue doing to each other what they have been since 600 AD.

 

Smelly Butter was dumb as a brick...

 

Numerous americans have goosestepped down the road chanting "jews will not replace us" and back it up with terrorist attacks.

But that is not the same thing at all. Those americans were merely exercising their rights and responding to the existential threat posed by dirty colored invaders taking their parking lot attendant jobs.

 

So, that is people or a group.
White Nationalist are good at terrorist attacks also. Does that make white Americans bad?