F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia Following Presiden

The minute that Scott Cohen slipped in his Medicaid addendum to the original Obamacare bill, it became blatantly obvious that the whole construct was seriously flawed.

In other words, Obama knew he was throwing the country under the bus and so did all of the Democrats who voted for the monstrosity.

 

Most of what you said is false, which is normal......

No, the GOP and the insurance, big pharma and medical lobbies were never interested in health care reform and especially not interested in controlling costs.

Dig deeper (and not too much deeper) into the Obama quote, and you'll see that it was made in reference to saving that amount by reducing future increases in health care premium costs.

The ACA accomplished that for millions of people and made affordable insurance available to millions of individuals for the first time. Many of these people are sole proprietors, and commission sales people. I am one of them.

The right wing counter argument plays because only about one American in fifteen actually has any idea what their health care costs really are.

They're either retired, and Medicare and medigap insurance pays the bills (and the user only pays premiums for 20% of total coverrage, or thier employer makes the choice for them and pays most of the premium.

American indidviduals do not have choices. Their bosses make those choices.

Health care costs had been rising at three times the cost of living for three decades. They slowed briefly after the failure of Hillary care, and again during the debate over the ACA.

OF course, the GOP and the medical establishment have tried to sabatoge the ACA since the day it was introduced.
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The failure of red states to expand Medicare had a huge impact on the acturarial pool, and thus of premium costs.

In red state after red state, GOP politicians elected to screw their own citizens by depriving them of the opportunity to qualify for Medicaid under the ACA, and by squeezing people who would have qualified onto the ACA rolls.

Then the GOP overruled the mandate, doing further actuarial damage.

But the damage is done, at least damage to the pay more, get less, and trust the corporation ideology the far right is wedded to.

The exaggerations that right wing media circulated have not come true for most people.

And, I suspect, many people who may have bought the right wing scare tactics notices that not much really changed in their health care after the ACA was passed. And quite a few either heard stories, or were people who suddenly found that they could get insurance and therefore afford health care.

So the idea of Medicare for all isn't scaring the uninformed anymore. And the scare campaigns that are rote in right wing media and were once the core of the public relations effort the insurance industry ran to defend the status quo aren't playing like they used to.

You reactionaries are going to be the ones insisting that paying more, taking more risk, and getting less than the citizens of any other first world country is a good idea.

But one thing the ACA proved is that reform does work, and most people are, and wish to remain, better off.

 

What did I say that was false? And I agree insurance companies weren’t hence why the obama admin got in bed with them and gave them a bailout

 

He has not fixed anything and the insurance companies backed out because Trump stopped paying them deliberately to kill
the ACA rather than to fix it, and he could have fixed it instead of blaming everyone but himself. Typical narcissist.

 

Nonsense. Obama did not through any country under anything. The ACA was a work in progress and needed tweaking, and that is all it needs. To fix it no matter what flaws.

 

A rogue FBI, working to take out a government official is the definitional equivalent of the soviet secret police. That would greatly bother most Americans except those who want Trump gone and destroyed at all costs.

 

There is no rogue FBI, just an FBI attempting to do its job and protect our country.

 

Your conspiracy theories have Fox written all over them. Anyone in the FBI honestly can't do anything within the Department of Justice that doesn't have ten layers of review. It's not like the U.S. Attorney's office where agents are kind of on their own, start up an investigation and poof..it's that simple. At the DOJ, it involves multiple signature-signature-copy-signature, in yellow, in green, in blue and in red and everybody has to sign off step by step. Imagine what it takes to open a counterintelligence investigation of the president of the United States? If they were wrong, they were dead. But the counterintelligence investigation opened and the counterintelligence investigation proceeded and it expanded and ultimately it all fell into the lap of Robert Mueller. Keep in mind that Robert Mueller was retired, he has grandchildren, he has also gone through prostate cancer, but he came back and he did it for the right reason.

The job of Mueller now is to figure out where Trump is on the continuum or period of time during this counterintelligence investigation? Was he a 'useful idiot', was he an 'asset' or maybe he's an 'agent', actually doing Russia's bidding? That's precisely what they're trying to find out.

 

Yeah, right, Sherlock. Wanna buy a bridge?

 

You imply that the FBI investigation of Trump as a Russian agent was the dream child of a still wet behind the ears field agent. Bad guess.

Mueller's team is not trying to find out anything factual per se. They are trying to find fodder for impeachment hearings -- not the same thing.

 

You simply know Trump is in Putin's pocket, it's just a matter of time when you can no longer escape that reality.

 

No, not at all. It's my deepest, darkest nightmare to have the president of the United States a possible agent of Russia and not the leader of our free country. Our FBI, CIA, DHS and other agencies are here for YOU in case you didn't realize it. They're sworn to protect each of us in this country from foreign oppressors. You should get down on your knees and thank them for doing that, it's an extremely dangerous career and they're risking their lives for all of us. They cannot just open up a counterterrorism investigation on a whim, that's just not how it works.

 

Did you come across this vital information via a leak?

 

Yawn, I've been hearing this BS from you guys since day one. In fact one on posting in this thread swore to never return if Trump even won and guess what, two years later you tin foil hat wearing lefties still haven't produced the goods. Anyone who believes this BS, literally has TDS. The article itself said it found nothing you guys have lost it, seriously.

 

Insurance companies were leaving during the Obama admin. Yes trump stopped obama’s Bailout of private insurance companies

 

No, Trump stopped paying insurance companies for their service and since they were not being paid, they checked out.
Trump is trying to decimate Obamacare. But that has proved hard to do ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../trump-is-trying-to-decimate-obamacare-but-that-has...

 

You watch & listen to too much RW punditry, Breitbart and FaUX News......they are lying to you. Pay attention to the world around you and think critically.

 

They were bailing out during the obama. Admin. Yes, trump stopped the bailout program

 

Scumbag democrat stooges in the fbi spying on the trump campaign...

And hillary still couldnt win

 

Stopped the program and stopped paying the insurance companies, resulting in their exit from the ACA. He should have paid them until the ACA was fixed. Of course, he has money to bail out the agriculture industry to try and cover his tariff screw-up. Some government help will always be needed due to pre-existing conditions, in case you weren't aware. He simply stopped that help and will have to continue it no matter what the plan is. Of course, he is so full of sht that he will stall. He has no conscience, no empathy, and has a personality disorder to go along with his constant fabrications and fake truths. An example is his shutdown of our government and wreaking financial havoc among American citizens and using some stupid excuse about a wall that Mexico is not paying for and blaming the Democrats. Where does he get his balls? Only his base is fooled by his antics.

 

As I stated, they were leaving before trump took office. Yes, trump undid the insurance bailout program the Dems put in place. The purpose of the bailout is because of the law, insurance companies were losing money, so the Dems promised them tax payer dollars to bail them out. Highlighting how the law didn’t work.

 

And I also know the moon is made of green cheese.

 

Our president being a Russian agent would be a dark nightmare for me, too, but nightmares are not real. A colossal fear of mine is the politicization of the FBI, CIA, NSA and turning them into a stalinist police organization, which is real and obvious. I think the biggest threat to our constitutional republic ever. It wasn't the many valiant field agents or agents-in-charge that caused it; it was the same leaders of the FBI and CIA (though not so much the NSA whose Director got in much hot water for informing Trump of the surveillance), with the tacit approval of the white house, that instituted the effort to undermine Trump, and which effort continued past the appointment of Mueller, and for all I know is ongoing as we speak. It did not originate on a whim but a calculated plan to enlist government agencies to affect the election.

 

It's quite bizarre that you would discredit every single institution in this government that's sworn to protect and serve you and this country and the same institutions that has given us many men that have sacrificed their lives doing. You discredit them but you defend a man whose legitimacy is in serious doubt and who is leading this country into an abyss that we may never recover from. That's absolutely nonsensical.

"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."
1984 George Orwell

 

Tim to clean house at the FBI.

Media narrative fail: Majority of Americans now believe Mueller probe being used to delegitimize Trump's election

The tipping at last is here. Media hysteria is now counterproductive.