Fast-food protesters cuffed at higher-pay rallies

But most minimum wage workers are usually teen agers entering the work force for the first time. They move on. They finish school and vacate those jobs and leave them for some other kid just entering the work force.

 

go during a school day. you'll find retirees happy they're not eating dog food after they leave...and around DC, illegals looking people that can't even speak English taking your order

 

I'm sorry to hear you have not.

Several of the previous companies I have worked for, just as an example, forced manditory overtime on us. We had to work extra hours or risk getting written up, even if we did not want to, or could not, worth the hours. I've also seen companies that change your schedule on a dime without even 24 hours notice,

And that not even the counting businesses that cut hours to make sure people don't get a full 40 hour workweek, and then just heap that extra work on the employees that remain.

But hey, that's just what I've seen. Probably best to take it with a grain of salt.

 

You know what fast food worker I'd say deserves higher pay?

The people who work at every Chick-fil-A I've ever been in.

I'm sure there is an exception out there somewhere but every Chick-fil-A I've ever walked into has not only been incredibly busy/popular but the staff are on their toes, busting their humps, and doing it all with respect for the customer.

Compared to the common experience of a Burger King, McDonald's, or Wendy's where you get some lazy barely conscious burnout screwing up your order and acting like the customer is a damned inconvenience.

And not for nothing, or to derail the conversation, but nearly every single one the employees at the Chick-fil-A's I've patronized were White as compared to the colored employee majority found in the burger chains.

 

LOL. Now tell me you aren't a racist, but are only supportive of White Pride and White Heritage.

 

the white kids in my corner of suburbia are just as bad @BK...i can't comment on MickyD's since i don't go there.

 

Hows the Chik-fil-A there?

 

I wouldn't know if there was a strike going on at any of the local fast food places since I don't eat at any of them.

 

I get that. Robotics is a new, exciting market and we need to get people interested and trained up to help design and maintain these things. That said it takes a special kind of person to do the design, so your average person who was working a manufacturing line be it for cars, Mcdonalds, whatever, isn't going to cut it. You're looking for engineers. Maintenance I'm not sure about. Maybe it can be done by your average auto mechanic, and if so then that's a good deal. That said if you replace a factory that had 100 workers with 100 robots, you're not going to need 100 people doing maintenance on those robots. You will lose jobs.

Actually lets go right to the point here in this thread; if you replace fast food workers with robots, those people are not getting jobs working in the robot industry that now does their own job. A few will I'm sure, but you're not going to need 30+ people to run a McDonalds, and the ones that show up for maintenance will need to have training on the equipment they will be servicing. Imaging all the fast food places in your town, all automated, run by 5 or 6 people instead of 30 each. That's easily a few thousand people unemployed depending on the size of the town, and that's just fast food being automated.

Design yes but building will likely be done by robots (if not then China) and as robotics move shipping will be automated just like Amazon is trying to do now. The self driving car isn't that far off, and with it will be the self driving semi-truck and goodbye trucker jobs.

I agree that progress leads to better jobs and better lives; farm equipment has helped us massively since we don't have to tend the fields and can instead have people employed as yoga instructors and what not. The problem is that unless a new industry opens that requires human input and cannot be done with robotics, we are going to reach a point where automation has taken enough jobs that there will not be enough jobs for people here. We will have to address this issue. I don't know what the solution is but society will have to adapt. Maybe it's regulations regarding hours so everyone can get a job (that would be absolutely horrible, especially considering full time benefits would likely remain only for full time employees, which would be discouraged by government). It could be that the poor and stupid become something of a lesure class; no one has to work but those that do get more that just what the government gives them. Maybe we'll try not to change and end up with a revolution that destroys so much of our progress that we won't have to worry about automation for another few decades. I don't know but it's worth thinking about.

 

I believe they pay higher than mw.

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True and mw is enough.

 

they haven't gotten this far north.

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you would have up here. 24 arrests for blocking traffic....only 3 protesters missed any work.

 

And if they all lose their jobs its a good possibility that they could end up on welfare and you'll be helping to foot the bill as well.

 

Fast food employees are so young??? Hate to break this to you but most of the workers at the local McDonalds are seniors who cannot get by on social security and need the extra income to get by. There are a few kids but the ratio is about 2 to 1 in favor of the seniors.

 

Wait a minute; I thought that Chick-fil-A cares about the welfare of its employees or so they claim; I can't believe they'd not give them higher pay!

 

A world-wide revolution will be exciting. For some reason the 1%'ers think that they can stiff the workers and replace them with robots. The dummies have forgotten that the system requires a lot of people with money to buy the goods and services and robots don't buy anything.

What's the point if a billionaire can buy every house in Boston or Seattle? The people need money as well.

 

1. This is Australia I'm talking about

2. This is a specific store near my house which has exclusively pre-teens.

3. I'm sure the wider industry has older people working.

 

Such an economy won't come from Liberalism, namely because Liberals think "Wealth Redistribution" over Economic Mobility


As the Economists themselves pointed out, a policy or a thesis on "Inequality" or "Wealth Redistribution" will not jumpstart the Economy, but a Thesis based on growth itself.

 

It sounds like the protesters should have known better than to stand in front of a cop trying to get his morning coffee. (Don't blame the cop either. Just about anyone would do the same thing at 5:30 in the morning with no coffee.)

 

The chikfila by me mostly employs white kids as well. There is a little of everyone but the demographic shift there is very apparent compared to the Wendys, BK or McD. The kids working at Chikfila are always friendlier more helpful and well spoken mostly because it's Demanded. It's part of the job. Better training as well. But you are highly ignorant to not understand basic stats.

Are You claiming Chikfila is a racist organization for not hiring enough blacks or is it simply a matter of those applying and being the best candidates? Statistics and silly crap like that.

 

Ok, since McDonaldss is an international business I was assuming you meant international, but i was wrong then.

2. This is a specific store near my house which has exclusively pre-teens. [/QUOTE]

Ok

3. I'm sure the wider industry has older people working. [/QUOTE]

Yes, we do; sorry for the miscommunication.

 

Let's see they harm them by requiring some OT and then hurt them by not offering 40 hours, so employees are harmed if it is anything BUT exactly 40 hours a week.

 

I'm not talking about design although that is a booming industry.

I'm talking installers, programming and maintenance. A two year community college certification. We increase production still employing thousands, they need more installers and painters and inspectors and logistics and maintenance and engineers and clerks and on and on and on.

But we will have people designing and building them at higher pay, people installing and maintaining them at higher pay and people running them at higher pay.

Yes so the people demanding the pay the people I have just listed for doing menial labor are digging their own grave.

No even as with cars robots can only do so much, welding and basic paint is what they do now, there are still plenty of people on the assembly lines installing engines and transmissions and dash boards and seats and on and on.

That fact is these factories are BEGGING for people to come and work and struggling to retain people they do hire who work just long enough to go back and collect benefits again. Was at a building products plant a few weeks ago and an entire line was down because they didn't have enough people to run, a Georgia-Pacific plant that pays GOOD money.

And the same could have been said throughout history but the fact remains a free and open market where people can use their talents and skills.

Government can't just mandate that, people aren't going to invest their money in companies that pay employees more than the value of their labor is worth, why would anyone do that and lose money? The purpose of a company is NOT to hire people and pay them.

 

careful what you wish for... no jobs will in turn bring on a socialist society

 

Pretty defensive little fella, ain'tcha?

When you climb off the ceiling and calm down, maybe you'll see the different between questioning whether a poster's comment was racist and the topic subject matter.

 

The problem is that "merit" is completely arbitrary. Who gets to decide how much you deserve? Your boss? Good luck with that. Workers want to earn the highest wage for the least amount of work possible and bosses want to pay the lowest wage for the most amount of work possible. class struggle and the cost of operating the business are what determines wages, not "merit", and if you think otherwise you're living in a fantasy world.