Fast Food Workers Go On Strike For Higher Pay From The Business Men

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  1. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    The value of a day's work is a day's decent provisions. That can be determined by government bean counters. If you do not have an hour's pay left over after paying for a minimal grocery basket and a sanitary, safe, warm room, somebody is not paying enough.
     
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    Government decided everyone "deserved the dream of homeownership"...how'd that work out...economically speaking?

    Roommates. not a new concept, that.

    The answer is labor markets... specifically, supply and demand.... by the way.
     
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    Not necessarily; there are a lot of varibles to consider.

    We are talking a small portion of the McDonalds workforce thats unionized. As far as I know, very few other fast food establishments are non-union, so the employer has the right to set the wage levels unless the employees decide to unionize. So curently the impact of increased wages is only to a rather small segment of the fast food industry; furthermore McDonalds can only employ so many people before they have no job openings; therefore it stands to reason that unless another fast food establishment decides to increase the pay of the workers, everything will remain status quo.

    The word "eventually" only comes into play if the employees unionize or management decides to increase wages to retain "good" employees.
     
  4. sammy

    sammy Well-Known Member

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    The government is free to run fast food franchises if it want, but we know they
    can't run anything at a profit.

    It has already killed enough jobs under Obama to set poor
    folks back in the US, 100 years.
     
  5. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Precisely, that's why you won't see prices raised to that level. You might see a much smaller increase combined with the owners making a bit less in dividends/profits. They want to stay in business so theyll do what they have to do since those franchise agreements are rather costly and no one wants to lose every penny they put down on it.
     
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    except I lived THIS life. I made good decisions and got OUT of this life. While others were busy popping out babies they couldn't afford, chain smoking, flunking out of college..... I was working my ass off, in fast food, not getting girls pregnant, not dropping out.

    YOu do suggest owners are greedy by saying "maybe they should take a little less".... NO... Maybe if a person wants more... he puts HIS money on the line. Maybe a person makes better choices in life and works their way out of fast food (like I did in the life I 'haven't lived')

    Maybe a person makes develops a skill actually WORTH 15$ hour, because flipping burgers is NOT that skill.
     
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    that's fine.... I NEVER treat fast food employees as 'below me' There were a lot that did me that way. But facts are facts.... you can't complain about a minimum wage being too low for living when it was poor decisions that led to your job at 36 being entry level.
     
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    That's exactly it. McDonald's is paying $15 and everyone else is paying $7.50. You can't get that $15 because they aren't hiring so you demand your boss at Wendy's match McDonald's.

    It won't stop until everything doubles and then the McDonald's employees start demanding $30 because they can't live on $15 any more.
     
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    why should it be on the OWNER to lose any money to bail out those who made poor decisions earlier in life?
     
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    Liberal hippy fart dreaming.

    Fire these incompetent burger-flipping losers. Replace them with less-liberal, higher quality Americans
     
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    I actually started to type up something to address the comments made by those
    who seem to believe raising minimum wage to $15.00 for hamburger flippers, cashiers, etc., is the beginning and the end of it.....that the retail level business owner can swing it, if they just pay themselves and/if investors a little bit less...

    but I'm feeling lazy, and not really in the mood to politely deal with the stupidity I'm reading on these pages anymore this evening, and this guy sums it up pretty well.

    pay particular attention to the bolded, lefties.....maybe a light will come on....maybe not.

    To the costs of that Quarter Pounder with Cheese, I'll add "pick, herd, clean, load, mend fences, feed, bake...."
     
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    Show me the post where any liberal here defines a living wage as a "sanitary, safe, warm room" ? A "living wage" is the minimum amount that each of four roommates needs to earn to have one hot and a cot. Its the current minimum wage, and a bit less.
     
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    You can demand your boss at wendy's match McDonalds all you want but there is no law saying that the employer has to match what McDonalds pays. The employees only choices are to either continue working at Wendy's for the $7.50 or unionize.
     
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    OR GO TO WORK FOR McDONALDS!!!!

    FOR (*)(*)(*)(*)S SAKE!
     
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    or a 18 y.o. just out of highschool. It's burger flipping, it's not rocket science.
     
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    the employer is currently paying them the least he can, that is what they are supposed to do if they do not think they are being paid enough, if others want to fill their jobs then they were wrong, if not then the company will need to pay more, simple as that

    even republicans should support this as this is how the free market works... right?


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    "In the old days if you took off work one day you would starve,"

    is that the world you want to live in?

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    "McDonald's is going to be buying a lot of these."

    Taxcutter says:
    There are slicker and more robust burger robots available.
     
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    It's possible for a single person without kids to live on their own as little as $600 per month. So even with a McDonald's wage they would still have about $500 a month left over in savings.
     
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    Totally agree. It's all about how you budget the money.
     
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    abut we have alrady established tahat for Mcdonald's to DOUBLE ALL of its labor costs, that would amount to 15 CENTS per MEAL!

    Indeed, all the costs would rise from a minimum wage EVERYWHERE at $15/hr, but Righties always seem to lack the economic wisdom of our economic blockbuster industrialists like Henry Ford and Andrew Carnegie, who had a broad enough vision that a rising tide lists ALL boats - INCLUDING THEIR OWN!

    People with more income will spend MORE money at businesses like their own, and grow the economy, in the same way that the LARGEST economic boom in history occurred from 1940 to 1970 in the USA., stopped ONLY by MASSIVE WAR DEBT and MASSIVE INCREASES IN ENERGY COSTS incurred in the lat 60s and late 70s..
     
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    "Self worth" huh? We could break this one down in dozens and dozens of ways. But I will just jump to the end. Superficial America is running strong. But I tend to think the people wearing helmets to defend our Country should be paid more than the people wearing helmets to defend a football...

    Some people don't have a clue what self worth is. They have never thought about the important occpuations in America. The ones that would flourish in hard times.

    And the saddest thing is that these hard workers that deserve more are generally the ones fighting for the rights of Corporations to stampede America.
     
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    And we have already established that 100,000`s mininum wage companies exist that dont share the same margin of profit and wouldnt be able to adjust like a mega company Mcdonalds.
     
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    Food Service and McDonalds are pretty different don't you think? We're not talking chefs here. I worked at a Chilis in the kitchen and as a server for a couple of summers, so I get it. Was it hard? Debatable. Then again, it was not a career. It was a fun summer job. We're talking jobs nearly any teenager could do in a day. Hope you understand the difference.

    ENTITLED? You're only entitled to get what the job is worth and FAST FOOD does not require much training. Its a minimum wage job, nothing more. Because, it requires the minimum amount of training and minimum amount of qualifications to do it well.
     
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    Yes, ENTITLED. You are entitled to be paid the proper value of your labor. The proper value of labor is a day's decent provisions for a day's labor. If you don't pay that, you are stealing labor.

    Why is some investor class SOB entitled to make a profit when the people who make him rich are being cheated out of the value of their labor?
     
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    $15 an hour is a huge jump, although the employer could afford it.

    If they were working over here, that is what they'd be getting, so it sucks that employers in the US are so selfish and stingy they are too greedy to pay their employees a proper wage.
     
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