Fast Food Workers Go On Strike For Higher Pay From The Business Men

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by liberalminority, May 10, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Messages:
    66,166
    Likes Received:
    349
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And because you insist on these people being paid a pittance, that is why your order will be messed up, and why you have to wait for your food. Treat the employees like garbage, it falls back on the customer. ;)
     
  2. Mayor Snorkum

    Mayor Snorkum Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2012
    Messages:
    3,669
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    So they refuse to work unless they're paid more.

    That's not a wise strategy in an country who's president is actively creating as many unemployed people as he can.

    Fire them.

    No. They quit voluntarily, tell the state unemployment board that, so they can't get benefits.

    Hire replacements. Inform them what happened to their predecessors.
     
  3. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Messages:
    66,166
    Likes Received:
    349
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It must shock the Americans to know that I earn a whopping $18 per hour at McDonalds, plus I get a pay rise every year, and we get FREE flu shots each year, PLUS each year every single employee gets a music gift card and a free night out for our annual crew meeting.

    Goodness me, an employer actually valuing their employees and paying them a wage they can live on? UNHEARD OF!!!!

    And our stores would be a heck of a lot better than the stores you lot have over there. Pay people decent money, you will get decent service!

    But don't let me tell ya how to do things. You just keep on being selfish and greedy and paying your employers a pittance and work them 12 hours a day with no overtime...and tell them they are living the 'American dream'.
     
  4. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2008
    Messages:
    55,099
    Likes Received:
    13,310
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The "value of your labor" is EXACTLY what SOMEONE ELSE will accept to do it.

    - - - Updated - - -

    MANAGERS of franchises make similar money here, as well; not bottom of the totem pole employees,and they do not make $18 per hour at your store either.

    If you are making $18, you are NOT a burger-flipper. You are one of the shift managers.

    Listen to the Aussie telling America how to run a McDonald's. Hilarious.
     
  5. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Hog wash. That the investor class has conspired to not pay people what they are entitled to makes it impossible to turn down jobs that deprive you of the value of your labor. If a man's labor is not worth a day's provision, what the hell are you doing taking up his time? Do it your damned self. Why has anyone the right to get rich while the people who make him rich go deeper in the hole or starve or get sick and die because they can't afford medical care?

    You capitalists have a wierd sense of entitlement.
     
  6. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2008
    Messages:
    66,166
    Likes Received:
    349
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I am not a shift manager. LOL. Shift managers here earn around $22-$25 per hour, with bonuses at the end of each year.

    And shift managers still 'flip burgers', although if people had actually worked in a Maccas, they'd know that we don't bloody well flip any damned burgers!
     
  7. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,866
    Likes Received:
    27,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't know why you think they're being so bad, nor worse than the generation before them. Seems to me they're behaving much like the people who once unionised to protect themselves from employer abuses.
     
  8. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,866
    Likes Received:
    27,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you use a conveyer belt contraption like Burger King does? The only fast food joint I've spent any time working at was Burger King, and there I'd feed the frozen patties in at one end of the grill and they'd come out the other end cooked and ready.
     
  9. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    154,817
    Likes Received:
    39,373
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No they can't and if the cost get too high the consumer will seek other and better options.
     
  10. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Banned

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    8,939
    Likes Received:
    461
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Last McD's I saw used clamshell cookers.
     
  11. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I got an idea. Why don't the blood suckers in the board room go back to making the same amount, as a multiple of a burger-flipper's pay, as the did back when the ecconomy actually worked? They would still be richer than most of the thugs deserve, but the rest of the country would not be on such a fast track to peonage.
     
  12. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    25,273
    Likes Received:
    1,633
    Trophy Points:
    113
    These 'subhuman pot smokers' aren't getting enough money to pay all their bills, and still leave a little extra at the end of the week for marijuana. They make tough choices after they get their paychecks, and sometimes when they get a mean customer they add a little extra seasoning.

    American's don't cook at home anymore, so we're going to have to treat these guys better with higher payment prospects.
     
  13. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 12, 2010
    Messages:
    28,136
    Likes Received:
    10,630
    Trophy Points:
    113
    holy illogical conversation bat man. lets review a conversation with a liberal.


    gamewell- "Yeah, imagine that, wanting a living wage and rights in the workplace....how un-American."

    gamewell- "Rights in the workplace don't cost anything, increased wage cost can be passed off to the consumer. Its that simple."

    oldyoungin- "Rights? What rights are being violated?"

    gamewell- "Do you know what "Rights" are?"

    oldyoungin- "What rights are being violated?"

    gamewell- "Answer my question from before if you would."

    oldyoungin- "What question? The first thing you brought up is rights. What rights are violated?"

    gamewell- "go back and read the original post;"

    oldyoungin "This is your post....
    ***quotes original post***
    Where is the question?
    Now, explain what rights are being violated."


    gamewell- "Ok now read post #18."

    oldyoungin- "Yes, I know what "rights" are.
    Ok, I answered your question.
    Now, what rights are being violated?"


    gamewell- "I never said any rights were being violated"



    That right there is a perfect example of how our house liberals discuss topics.

    Man... are you guys even interested in logical debate and discussion, or just non-sense to push your agenda?
     
  14. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    31,795
    Likes Received:
    7,867
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I see no reason why these workers should not get the same salaries, alcohol and marijuana breaks as their UAW counterparts.

    Auto workers assemble cars with parts, these folks assemble sandwiches with parts. Due to the size of sandwiches some would say that it requires tighter levels of skills and should command good salaries, benefits, pensions as well as alcohol and marijuana breaks
     
  15. gamewell45

    gamewell45 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2011
    Messages:
    24,711
    Likes Received:
    3,547
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not if you put out a superior product. They'll buy within reason.
     
  16. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,866
    Likes Received:
    27,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Bingo. The main problem these days is how much trickle-down has been dammed up..
     
  17. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    I believe we should merely solve, with socialism, Capitalism's inefficiency rate or natural rate of unemployment.
     
  18. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,866
    Likes Received:
    27,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    People (and companies) are afraid to lead, and with good reason. However, I expect Macca's :D could do well with a connected ad campaign touting their decision to support the American worker, and so on. People with principles (as well as image-conscious people :D) tend not to mind paying a little extra for a good cause.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Bah. Rampant capitalism + socialist policies = where we are today.
     
  19. BleedingHeadKen

    BleedingHeadKen Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2008
    Messages:
    16,562
    Likes Received:
    1,276
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How do you solve the economic calculation problem under socialism?
     
  20. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2009
    Messages:
    43,110
    Likes Received:
    459
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    It has more to do with actually solving a simple socioeconomic problem instead of merely waging a more centrally planned, War on Poverty without burdening the wealthiest with wartime tax rates.

    - - - Updated - - -

    By simplifying public policy choices such that they lower our tax burden by drawing market share from more expensive, means tested programs.
     
  21. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2011
    Messages:
    14,996
    Likes Received:
    89
    Trophy Points:
    0
    once again, the lefts suggestion that a person who made wise choices gives up what he's worked for and earned, so that someone who hasn't made good decisions in life, can be bailed out.
     
  22. JavisBeason

    JavisBeason New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2011
    Messages:
    14,996
    Likes Received:
    89
    Trophy Points:
    0
    because the investor made better choices in education, training, and didn't get derailed by knocking up girls (or getting knocked up) and having to drop out of school/college/ect.

    Minimum wage IS a fair the proper value of their labor. It's flipping burgers, a 16 y.o. can do it just as well. If you are in a job that a 16 y.o. can replace you, you do not DESERVE anything above that rate.

    Want more money for your skills.... get an education or get better skills.
     
  23. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2010
    Messages:
    25,273
    Likes Received:
    1,633
    Trophy Points:
    113
    History of the US has already proven with 90 percent tax rates on the rich under JFK's presidency, that the Capitalists will still be the highest paid just that they will have to redistribute more wealth to the bottom with a bit more socialism.

    The calculation is already solvent in Europe, their welfare states are running through recessions but they are not bankrupt except for Greece, Spain, Italy, Portugal.

    But those are only 10 percent of Europe , the other 90 percent are doing good as socialists
     
  24. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I ndo not want to hear any more of this crap about how executives deserve to make hundreds of times what a burger flipper makes and that the burger flipper is asking for too much when he asks for a living wage. The cost to the consumer would only go up because the executives are greedy. It is not greed to want the value of a day's labor. It is greed to expect a working man to accept less than that so that the investor can make three or four hundred times that, when it is the worker who actually creates the wealth that they are fighting over in the first place.
     
  25. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    If you need someone for a day, you need to pay him a day's provisions.

    Did you notice that there is a recession going on and that a lot of people are out of work after years of working in professions that were supposedly the right choices?

    It takes a real disconnect from reality for your spew to make sense.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page